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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET December 2020
« Reply #20 on: 11/16/2020 06:08 pm »
The second highlighted entry could be Turksat 5A

That flight shifted to the Nov. 28-Dec. 3 timeframe.  If that's the flight for Turksat then it would be NET late December now.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #21 on: 11/19/2020 08:02 am »
Crossposting:
https://tr.sputniknews.com/amp/ekonomi/202011161043230213-turksat-5a-ve-5b-uydularina-uzay-sigortasi/

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For the 5A satellite and the 5B satellite, the company will be paid approximately $ 120 million  launch fee.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #22 on: 11/26/2020 02:53 am »
The second highlighted entry [Volga-Dnepr An-124 flights schedule] could be Turksat 5A [November 15-20].
That flight shifted to the Nov. 28-Dec. 3 timeframe.  If that's the flight for Turksat then it would be NET late December now.

This launch may be delayed: the satellite had not yet been delivered?

Cross-post from the thread dedicated to the Russian Volga-Dnepr An-124 groundings:
Space industry logistics related news...
Looks like the recent uncontained engine failure accident of an AN-124 is having repercussions
EXCLUSIVE: 'Safety first' as Volga-Dnepr grounds its AN-124 fleet indefinitely, dated November 25
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Volga-Dnepr Group has “put safety first” and made what it called the “responsible” decision to ground all its AN-124s, following a recent incident at Novosibirsk, when one made an emergency landing after an engine failure.

The carrier today filed a letter with the Russian aviation authorities to notify them of the decision to ground its eight operational aircraft immediately.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #23 on: 11/29/2020 02:10 pm »
https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-STA-INTR2020-03574/2862164
STA filing dated November 24, 2020

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Turksat-5A is expected to launch on December 16, 2020.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #24 on: 11/29/2020 02:14 pm »
https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-STA-INTR2020-03574/2862164
STA filing dated November 24, 2020

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Turksat-5A is expected to launch on December 16, 2020.

The slot freed by Transporter-1 mission.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #25 on: 11/29/2020 06:14 pm »
That FCC filing has outdated information (which is a surprisingly common occurrence).  I think the satellite is still in Europe.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : NET late December 2020
« Reply #26 on: 11/29/2020 06:24 pm »
That FCC filing has outdated information (which is a surprisingly common occurrence).  I think the satellite is still in Europe.

I don’t disagree, I’m just adding more data points as I find them.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #27 on: 12/02/2020 02:11 am »
From Ben Cooper, SLC-40:
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<snip>A Falcon 9 will launch the Turksat 5A communication satellite from pad 40 on late December TBD earliest.<snip>
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #28 on: 12/03/2020 02:36 am »
Just wanted to point out a few things.

The original Volga-Dnepr delivery was for Nov 18. The typical payload workflow is 28 days, which  would mean a Dec 16 launch date.

That syncs with the filings from SpaceX and statements from the Turkish minister.

The only booster not currently assigned to a mission during that timeframe is B1060, and is the only booster available until mid-January. Dec 16 would have been 53 days from its last launch.

The Volga-Dnepr delivery issues support the info we're getting about delays to late December.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #29 on: 12/03/2020 04:27 am »
Just wanted to point out a few things.

The original Volga-Dnepr delivery was for Nov 18. The typical payload workflow is 28 days, which would mean a Dec 16 launch date.

That syncs with the filings from SpaceX and statements from the Turkish minister.

The only booster not currently assigned to a mission during that timeframe is B1060, and is the only booster available until mid-January. Dec 16 would have been 53 days from its last launch.

The Volga-Dnepr delivery issues support the info we're getting about delays to late December.

The second highlighted entry [Volga-Dnepr An-124 flights schedule] could be Turksat 5A [November 15-20].
That flight shifted to the Nov. 28-Dec. 3 timeframe.  If that's the flight for Turksat then it would be NET late December now.

Re: An-124 November 13 incident in Novosibirsk.  The airline continued to fly the planes for several days after November 13.  See the November 17-19 flight of OneWeb satellites from Florida to Siberia.

But the delivery delays could have been in 2 steps.  The first, from Nov. 15-20, to Nov. 28-Dec. 3, may not have resulted from the Nov. 13 "save" at Novosibirsk: unless the plane in Novosibirsk was to be the plane delivering Turksat.  That first delivery delay, in itself, would delay satellite launch to (very) late December.

The second delay, from delivery flight occurring some-when Nov. 28 through Dec. 3, to delivery date TBD, would be the airline grounding all their An-124's on November 25.  The NET late December launch could now be, internally, TBD 2021.

I admit, the finer details of the delay sequence are moot now.

I agree with your deduction that this satellite was booster 1060's next payload.

However, 1060.4 may be assigned to another payload that isn't stuck on the other side of an ocean (for the time being/until alternate transportation is arranged).

(My follow-on hypothesis is in the manifest discussion thread here.)
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #30 on: 12/04/2020 02:04 am »
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/science-technology/turkey-flexes-space-muscles-with-new-satellites/2064529
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Turksat 5A will be launched this month, 5B in 2nd quarter of 2021, says transport minister

Official Turkish position as of today is still a December launch.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #31 on: 12/05/2020 12:47 am »
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/science-technology/turkey-flexes-space-muscles-with-new-satellites/2064529
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Turksat 5A will be launched this month, 5B in 2nd quarter of 2021, says transport minister

Official Turkish position as of today is still a December launch.

Well if they cannot get the satellite to Florida in time, I am sure the next Starlink is eagerly awaiting to take it's place as final mission for 2020. ;)
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #32 on: 12/07/2020 09:02 am »
https://m.haber7.com/teknoloji/haber/3042198-turksat-5a-icin-geri-sayim-basladi

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Adil Karaismailoğlu, Minister of Transport and Infrastructure, announced that the Türksat 5A satellite was received and that SpaceX would be launched into space with the Falcon 9 rocket on December 30.

Turksat 5A launch date set for December 30, 2020 at approximately 2000 EST (31 Dec 0100 UTC).

Most likely booster is B1060.4
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #33 on: 12/07/2020 02:06 pm »
https://m.haber7.com/teknoloji/haber/3042198-turksat-5a-icin-geri-sayim-basladi

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Adil Karaismailoğlu, Minister of Transport and Infrastructure, announced that the Türksat 5A satellite was received and that SpaceX would be launched into space with the Falcon 9 rocket on December 30.

Turksat 5A launch date set for December 30, 2020 at approximately 2000 EST (31 Dec 0100 UTC).

Most likely booster is B1060.4

I really don't believe that story.  We'll see.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #34 on: 12/07/2020 02:44 pm »
Ben Cooper now states it's going to launch "late December or January TBD earliest", so at least it matches the story. Yeah, we'll see.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #35 on: 12/08/2020 07:56 am »
https://m.haber7.com/teknoloji/haber/3042198-turksat-5a-icin-geri-sayim-basladi

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Adil Karaismailoğlu, Minister of Transport and Infrastructure, announced that the Türksat 5A satellite was received and that SpaceX would be launched into space with the Falcon 9 rocket on December 30.

Turksat 5A launch date set for December 30, 2020 at approximately 2000 EST (31 Dec 0100 UTC).

Most likely booster is B1060.4 

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/99

Confirming all the details above, plus SLC-40 launch and ASDS recovery.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #36 on: 12/11/2020 08:50 am »
https://www.yenisafak.com/gundem/bakan-karaismailoglu-turksat-5a-uydusu-aralik-sonunda-uzaya-gonderilecek-3589081

11 December 2020, 11:42 AM CEST
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Making a statement at the "Transport and Communications Council" publicity meeting at Istanbul Atatürk Airport, Minister of Transport and Infrastructure Adil Karaismailoğlu said, "We will send our Türksat 5A communication satellite to space later this month."

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #37 on: 12/11/2020 09:48 am »
Do we know if the first stage will land at sea (ASDS) or return to launch site (RTLS)?

Gunter gives the satellite mass as 3500 kg.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #38 on: 12/11/2020 09:53 am »
Do we know if the first stage will land at sea (ASDS) or return to launch site (RTLS)?

Gunter gives the satellite mass as 3500 kg.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/99

Confirming all the details above, plus SLC-40 launch and ASDS recovery.

Also filings indicate ASDS.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Türksat 5A : 2021
« Reply #39 on: 12/11/2020 10:03 am »
Do we know if the first stage will land at sea (ASDS) or return to launch site (RTLS)?

Gunter gives the satellite mass as 3500 kg.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/99

Confirming all the details above, plus SLC-40 launch and ASDS recovery.

Also filings indicate ASDS.

Yes, most likely going to GTO-1500.

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