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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2000 on: 07/18/2012 05:20 pm »
Prior to award anouncement the potential winners are in cofidential negotiations about milestone payment amounts and reporting details. This should take about a week. But it is also not a set length either other than it must finish before 1 Aug. Only until all negotiations with each of the potential award nominies (BTW during this period a potential award nominie can be droped or moved in priority based on dificulty of negotiations or failure to come to an agreement. But this is rare and is not likely to happen.)

All of this must happen before any releases because not only the exact award amount is stated but the milestone schedule is also published at that time (minus the payment amounts for each milestone only the total award is published). So NASA does not yet know when negotiations will end. Usually the release is made on the same date as the contracts are signed. Also usually not until all parties (the possible 3 different providers) have signed.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2001 on: 07/18/2012 07:30 pm »
Prior to award anouncement the potential winners are in cofidential negotiations about milestone payment amounts and reporting details. This should take about a week. But it is also not a set length either other than it must finish before 1 Aug. Only until all negotiations with each of the potential award nominies (BTW during this period a potential award nominie can be droped or moved in priority based on dificulty of negotiations or failure to come to an agreement. But this is rare and is not likely to happen.)

All of this must happen before any releases because not only the exact award amount is stated but the milestone schedule is also published at that time (minus the payment amounts for each milestone only the total award is published). So NASA does not yet know when negotiations will end. Usually the release is made on the same date as the contracts are signed. Also usually not until all parties (the possible 3 different providers) have signed.

NASA must spend the cash before 1 Aug or FY012?
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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2002 on: 07/18/2012 07:43 pm »
The SpaceX manifest for 2014 certainly is bulging, not even considering any Commercial Crew test flights...

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2003 on: 07/18/2012 08:15 pm »
Prior to award anouncement the potential winners are in cofidential negotiations about milestone payment amounts and reporting details. This should take about a week. But it is also not a set length either other than it must finish before 1 Aug. Only until all negotiations with each of the potential award nominies (BTW during this period a potential award nominie can be droped or moved in priority based on dificulty of negotiations or failure to come to an agreement. But this is rare and is not likely to happen.)

All of this must happen before any releases because not only the exact award amount is stated but the milestone schedule is also published at that time (minus the payment amounts for each milestone only the total award is published). So NASA does not yet know when negotiations will end. Usually the release is made on the same date as the contracts are signed. Also usually not until all parties (the possible 3 different providers) have signed.

NASA must spend the cash before 1 Aug or FY012?

CCDev-2 ends July 31. NASA's schedule is to have no break. Plus any delay risks NASA loosing some of its CCP FY2012 funds because it can only be spent during FY2012, giving only 2 months of activity for CCiCap to complete milestones for the amount NASA expects to spend in FY2012.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2004 on: 07/18/2012 11:06 pm »
There's a Dragon in DC, apparently-

http://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/225704138246344705
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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 5)
« Reply #2006 on: 08/03/2012 01:12 am »

CCDev-2 ends July 31. NASA's schedule is to have no break. Plus any delay risks NASA loosing some of its CCP FY2012 funds because it can only be spent during FY2012, giving only 2 months of activity for CCiCap to complete milestones for the amount NASA expects to spend in FY2012.

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