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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #140 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 pm »
Rob Navias was our commentator today. Talking about efforts to try to contact boat and get them out.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #141 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 pm »
All they can do is "try to make contact with the boat"? Lame.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #142 on: 10/27/2014 09:54 pm »
Bloody boat!

If Antares launches tomorrow will the Sunday capture still hold?
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #143 on: 10/27/2014 09:55 pm »
The Chinese and Russians have to chuckle about letting a moron in a boat getting hit by rocket stages stop a launch.  They drop rocket stuff on land and peoples houses all the time...
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Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #145 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 pm »
Nice shot of the Moon next to Antares.

NASA TV starts at 4:30 pm tomorrow I believe.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #146 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

I honestly don't understand this. What is to prevent a fringe protest organization from indefinitely postponing a launch by occupying the range?
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #147 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 pm »
I would have paid money to see the look on the boat skipper's face if they had launched ....bet that would have soiled his pants...

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #148 on: 10/27/2014 09:56 pm »
All they can do is "try to make contact with the boat"? Lame.

May I propose an additional course of action? Turning off the radars. No boat detected - no problem...

I'm only 80% joking.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #149 on: 10/27/2014 09:57 pm »
Going into detanking.
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You can HEAR Antares saying what she thinks of that boat with the audible sighing (its her pressurization, but you can imagine!)
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #151 on: 10/27/2014 09:58 pm »
They seriously need to improve their responsiveness on the launch net.  RSO didn't respond promptly and NASA was asked for an update before  RSO gave a really useless call.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #152 on: 10/27/2014 09:58 pm »
We just had a bright ISS pass over NYC.  Too bad it was alone.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #153 on: 10/27/2014 09:59 pm »
Step alpha 44 complete.

Completed all steps in abort safing except for three.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #154 on: 10/27/2014 10:00 pm »
someone please turn the cam on the water and embarrass them !
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #155 on: 10/27/2014 10:01 pm »
Spacecraft safed and powering down.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #156 on: 10/27/2014 10:01 pm »
I would have paid money to see the look on the boat skipper's face if they had launched ....bet that would have soiled his pants...

I doubt he or she would have noticed anything, unless the launch went terribly wrong. The ocean is big, and it is very unlikely that the small boat would have been hit by the falling first stage. (as much as we might wish it) ;)

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At some point in the future I would expect that any boats in breach of the Notice to Mariners would simply be ignored, and their risks would have no effect on launches, only on their own insurance.

Really, if it doesn't endanger the launch and proper notice has been given, it's up to the boat owners to decide whether they want to take the risk of having some metal land on their boat from a great height.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #158 on: 10/27/2014 10:02 pm »
Love this shot with the Moon.

Re-establishing road-blocks.
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He'd probably sue if something fell on his head.

"Have you had an accident whilst out boating? Did a fairing land on your head? Call 555-223-4323 and our teams of lawyers will tell you how stupid you were not to get out of the Range".
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