Author Topic: SpaceX Starship IFT-2 : Starbase TX : 18 Nov 2023 DISCUSSION  (Read 438292 times)

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What could be wrong with the fourth actuator that it's not getting replaced?


I think one was replaced a week ago, so that was probably not changed tonight.
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Hard to believe that all this started at 4:00PM CT yesterday and we are still waiting for the last man-lift to be lowered 11 hours later.

Did you miss a /s there Tony?

11 hours to de-stack a Saturn V sized rocket, replace three major components, test, and then partially re-stack. The pace is just breathtaking.

Itís also good to see that they have sufficient confidence that they might actually need to use the grid fins that itís worth delaying the launch.

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Hard to believe that all this started at 4:00PM CT yesterday and we are still waiting for the last man-lift to be lowered 11 hours later.

Did you miss a /s there Tony?

11 hours to de-stack a Saturn V sized rocket, replace three major components, test, and then partially re-stack. The pace is just breathtaking.

Itís also good to see that they have sufficient confidence that they might actually need to use the grid fins that itís worth delaying the launch.

Thanks for the catch. I made the correction, thanks.
I was going to mention the same thing.  Who would think that all this could occur on the launch pad in the open air?  Anywhere else, it's back in the barn to fix. 
Great crew that SpaceX has.  Enjoyable to watch and learn.  Where else could you ever be privileged to view this?
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In a discussion thread, someone suggested that the salt air could have contaminated the grid fin actuators, leading to the replacement of three of them in the evening. This raises a question: if SpaceX plans to increase the number of constructed boosters and position them in a larger parking lot, wouldn't they also be susceptible to the same salt air issue? It might be worth considering a large fabric cover over the top of the boosters, similar to a car cover, to mitigate the potential for salt air and rust.  The engine compartments seem to have been upgraded with covers for the engines (to migrate fire potential) but the engine bells are still out in the open.  If you happen to be lucky enough to stand by one of these at the rocket garden you can very well see all the rust building up at various places on the skin.

Anyway, some seeds to cultivate and answer to, yes?
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What's interesting more than 3K are viewing NSF Live Streaming right now and that's more than 1K when the wiggle test concluded an hour ago..
Europa has woken up ;)

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What's interesting more than 3K are viewing NSF Live Streaming right now and that's more than 1K when the wiggle test concluded an hour ago..
Europa has woken up ;)
And they didn't hear the memo about a 24 hour delay. Is it frosty yet?

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What's interesting more than 3K are viewing NSF Live Streaming right now and that's more than 1K when the wiggle test concluded an hour ago..
Europa has woken up ;)
And they didn't hear the memo about a 24 hour delay. Is it frosty yet?
It's up to 4K now.  Well, I guess a lot of people have a lot of time on their hands.  It's a party channel, no less.
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In a discussion thread, someone suggested that the salt air could have contaminated the grid fin actuators, leading to the replacement of three of them in the evening. This raises a question: if SpaceX plans to increase the number of constructed boosters and position them in a larger parking lot, wouldn't they also be susceptible to the same salt air issue?

What salt air issue? It was a suggestion, not a statement of fact. The bottom line is, we have no idea what the issue is/was with the actuators, nor why they needed to be replaced. Repeating someone elseís suggestion as if it was established fact just confuses things.
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I have to be somewhere at 8 AM central tomorrow, so I was happy to see this in Chris' tweet in the update thread:

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(20 minute window opens at 7am local time).

If they don't make that 20 minute window, I assume they have to move to another day for the next attempt?  Just want to be sure I'm reading this right.

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I have to be somewhere at 8 AM central tomorrow, so I was happy to see this in Chris' tweet in the update thread:

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(20 minute window opens at 7am local time).

If they don't make that 20 minute window, I assume they have to move to another day for the next attempt?  Just want to be sure I'm reading this right.
Depending on the time of scrub. If it's deep into fueling it would be NET 48 hours until the next attempt cause they have to refill the storage farm
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What could be wrong with the fourth actuator that it's not getting replaced?
It was a joke, but I guess if I have to clarify it, not a good one...
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Does anybody know if they are going to stream on youtube also, or just X?

Streaming on X has always sucked.

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Does anybody know if they are going to stream on youtube also, or just X?

Streaming on X has always sucked.

They're not streaming it on YouTube. They will have an embedded Twitter stream on their website if you don't want to use Twitter itself: https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-2

I've seen people suggesting that if you use a browser extension to extract the .m3u8 link from the Twitter stream, and then put it into a program like VLC, it avoids some of the quality/reliability issues that Twitter's player causes, but I haven't been able to test this myself.

There will also very likely be YouTube channels restreaming the Twitter stream, but they'll likely have a time delay, and they'll all be dependent on the Twitter stream working reliably in the first place.
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Hi Guys, long time no post. Pretty exciting day tomorrow.

SpaceX website says they will stream there also. I suspect the quality will be better than X. Don't forget to keep an NSF window open! ;)

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Fingers crossed that the remote cameras (including "Danger Van Trailer") come out better this time around.  The video shots of the fragging were epic last time, but there definitely does not need to be a repeat performance.
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https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1725628920643362965

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Starship Flight 2 remote setup (2)! @NASASpaceflight

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We seem to be 15 hours away from the second flight of Starship.
I would like to thank everyone, NSF, other content creators and the community for this very funny and interesting times, now counted in the years. Today I am very excited, like during the past flight and the suborbital hops. But IIRC today there is much more anticipation than during the suborbital times.

I hope that tomorrow is a fun day for everyone. There will be hundreds of following flights, but those first ones will be unique, let's keep the memories of them.

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Yep, she's gonna fly tomorrow...

How do I know?

Boss at my side hustle called an 8am, all hands, attendance mandatory meeting. :(

Sooo... can the NSF stream team please post a time-stamp for the actual launch (once it is known?) as part of the description on their youtube feed? :D  Pllleeeeeaaase!
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Third version of online press kit. Has the launch time of 7 am local added.

Fourth version of online press kit. Has the new launch date of 18 November and new main picture.

Steven,
I understand that you may feel disconnected from this launch event since you are probably halfway around the world. However, we are a close-knit family and we work together effectively. The next 12-15 hours are going to be extremely busy, and although it may seem like we have forgotten about you, we certainly haven't. We know that you are there and your presence is much needed. Please don't feel left out.

Best,
Tony
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https://twitter.com/spacerhin0/status/1725627237217526146

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One last look at the engines we know to be under B9 and S25 ahead of their hopefull flight tomorrow!

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