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Offline ioncloud9

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #40 on: 12/10/2020 05:48 pm »
https://twitter.com/AdamSafiKhan/status/1337002126858448897

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #41 on: 12/10/2020 06:00 pm »
I'm reminded of a news report I saw when the Genesis capsule crashed. The newsreader helpfully said "luckily there was nobody onboard".
Yes, it was mere luck that nobody had climbed aboard the capsule three years prior. And not the fact that it was, as clearly shown in the footage, the size of a dustbin lid.
Bad journalism is not a new thing...
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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #42 on: 12/10/2020 06:51 pm »
The “SpaceX rocket explodes” headline which I even saw in a manufacturing journal website seem to be a case of “if it bleeds it leads” syndrome.

IMHO The flight wouldn’t have gotten the press it did if it landed intact.
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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #43 on: 12/10/2020 07:09 pm »
..So, the explosion was probably just a PR move by Elon.... "Bad news is good news".

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #44 on: 12/10/2020 08:47 pm »
The “SpaceX rocket explodes” headline which I even saw in a manufacturing journal website seem to be a case of “if it bleeds it leads” syndrome.

IMHO The flight wouldn’t have gotten the press it did if it landed intact.
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I'll second that!!

A lot of teachable moments about accuracy (truth) in the media here, but I know this is not the place for that ;)

On a much more positive note, I remember many years ago seeing an interview with Joel Hodgson (the creator of MST3K) in which he said "those who are meant to get it, get it".

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #45 on: 12/10/2020 08:51 pm »
We're actually getting some new and perhaps important info from this news post;
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1336999881173577731

Per their picture, there was an as-yet unreported very, very serious problem with SN8; its RUD occurred at the Cape in Florida (so it was way off course).

Also, SN8's flight yesterday resulted in the Amos 6 explosion in 2016.   


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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #47 on: 12/11/2020 02:16 am »
Jackie Wattles is sort of CNN's dedicated space reporter, so it's not surprising that her article is much better than other main stream media.

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #48 on: 12/11/2020 03:30 am »
What does the Babylon Bee have to say? it will probably be... savage.... ;D
« Last Edit: 12/11/2020 03:31 am by KBK »
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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #49 on: 12/11/2020 06:19 am »
Ironically The South African had the most positive spin on it I've seen outside of actual space sites. Some of Spadre's Twitter pics are used.

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/technology/space/starship-prototype-explodes-9-december-2020/

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SpaceX on Wednesday, 9 December 2020 completed an altitude test for the Starship rocket SN8 prototype. While the test itself was a success, the rocket exploded once it was on the ground again.

A SUCCESSFUL STARSHIP MISSION

Nevertheless, SpaceX is touting the mission as a success. The rocket completed the ascent, freefall, and the bellyflop manoeuvre. Despite the explosion, SpaceX collected data to improve its next prototype, SN9.

Bit of a flub at the end as it says there are only 9 Raptor engines on the prototype, but I think that was just an honest typo from the journo who actually seems to have a clue.
« Last Edit: 12/11/2020 09:09 am by Lampyridae »

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #50 on: 12/11/2020 07:09 am »
Looking forward to all those "NRO mission crashes in to Ocean" headlines following the Delta launch this morning...
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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #51 on: 12/11/2020 07:09 am »
Pourquoi l'explosion de son vaisseau Starship reste un grand succès pour SpaceX

Le Figaro, unfortunately behind a paywall.

Why the explosion of his Starship remains a big success for SpaceX

DECRYPTION - The test flight of the prototype SN-8 of the American company ended in a spectacular crash during the landing attempt. But the main thing is elsewhere.



« Last Edit: 12/11/2020 07:10 am by hektor »

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #52 on: 12/12/2020 04:16 pm »
CNN added a detailed recap of the test flight complete with gifs explaining process. Several inaccuracies but otherwise a fine lay persperctive: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/tech/spacex-starship-sn8-test-flight-recap-scn/index.html

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #53 on: 12/12/2020 09:38 pm »
It doesn't bother me that the mainstream news coverage is focusing on the explosion. Explosions are interesting and fun to watch for the whole family.  All news is good news.
« Last Edit: 12/12/2020 09:39 pm by RedLineTrain »

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #54 on: 05/06/2021 07:13 am »
SN15's landing made it onto the front page of most of the major news sites from what I can see...

CountryOutletLocationHeadline
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UKBBCFront Page"SpaceX Starship prototype makes clean landing"
USCNNFront Page"Success! SpaceX lands Mars rocket prototype for the first time"
USReutersFront Page"SpaceX Starship rocket prototype achieves first safe landing"
USNBCFront Page"SpaceX launches and lands Starship in first successful flight"
USWSJFront Page"SpaceX Starship Lands on Fifth Attempt"
UKMail OnlineMain Page"Nailed it! SpaceX's Starship SN15 blasts six miles into the sky before returning safely to the pad - a month after their last rocket exploded after landing"






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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #55 on: 05/06/2021 07:16 am »
SN15's landing made it onto the front page of most of the major news sites from what I can see...

CountryOutletLocationHeadline
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UKBBCFront Page"SpaceX Starship prototype makes clean landing"
USCNNFront Page"Success! SpaceX lands Mars rocket prototype for the first time"
USReutersFront Page"SpaceX Starship rocket prototype achieves first safe landing"
USNBCFront Page"SpaceX launches and lands Starship in first successful flight"
USWSJFront Page"SpaceX Starship Lands on Fifth Attempt"
UKMail OnlineMain Page"Nailed it! SpaceX's Starship SN15 blasts six miles into the sky before returning safely to the pad - a month after their last rocket exploded after landing"
Also got a Breaking News email alert from NYT, as well as main page placement.

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #56 on: 05/06/2021 04:22 pm »
Just rode home on the Tram in Vienna and saw the landing played on the onboard entertainment displays.

Also was a headline in a couple local newspapers.

Hungarian news as well

I think this went truly global, which is absolutely awesome!

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« Last Edit: 05/06/2021 04:23 pm by sleepy-martian »

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #57 on: 05/06/2021 05:30 pm »
Front page in major Danish papers as well.

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #58 on: 05/06/2021 05:41 pm »
BBC headline was the clean landing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-57007136
But there was a long 'but' section showing previous failures.
I don't think the radical nature of this test programme has got through to them yet

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Re: Mainstream news coverage of SN8 flight
« Reply #59 on: 05/06/2021 06:33 pm »
BBC headline was the clean landing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-57007136
But there was a long 'but' section showing previous failures.
I don't think the radical nature of this test programme has got through to them yet


Jonathon Amos does their space coverage and his articles are pretty even-handed. The actual headline article from him was also quite good, for educating laypersons.

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