Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 4-36 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 20 October 2022 (14:50 UTC) (Read 27012 times)

zubenelgenubi · « **on:** 08/20/2022 02:01 am »

Thread for the Starlink 4-36 group launch.

NSF Threads for Starlink 4-36: Discussion

Launch October 20, 2022, 14:50 UTC (10:50 am EDT), from Canaveral SLC-40, on booster 1062-10. First stage landing aboard A Shortfall Of Gravitas is expected.

Payload 54 Starlink satellites to 53.2 degree inclination on a northeastern trajectory. Initial orbit 336 x 232 km.

Starlink v1.5 satellite mass is now about 300kg after the addition of laser ISL terminals.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.

L2 SpaceX: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?board=60.0

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #1 on:** 08/20/2022 02:02 am »

Cross-post:

Quote from: gongora on 08/20/2022 01:09 am

1443-EX-ST-2022
Mission 1831 Starlink Group 4-36 from Cape Canaveral FL at LC-40 CCAFS or LC-39a at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch
NET late September [NET Sep 20]
ASDS to the NE: North 32 42 50 West 75 42 51

crandles57 · « **Reply #2 on:** 09/01/2022 12:33 pm »

spaceflightnow
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

has this from pad 40 late September. 4th launch from pad 40 in the month

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #3 on:** 09/14/2022 06:19 pm »

SFN now showing the launch on September 26 at 22:38 UTC = 6:38 pm EDT.

vaporcobra · « **Reply #4 on:** 09/19/2022 06:33 am »

Now TBD. Ben Cooper says "late September or October."

If SpaceX maintains the planned 7-day gap and Starlink 4-35 settles on a record-breaking Sept 23rd attempt at LC-40, 4-36 could maybe still launch before the end of the month but that would probably require SpaceX to delay Galaxy 33/34 from Oct 5th or require its customer to accept being party to an LC-40 turnaround that would have been record-breaking two weeks prior.

More realistically, I think Starlink 4-36 could be delayed until Oct ~20th or later if SpaceX can't work a miracle and squeeze it in on Sept 27th or 28th.

crandles57 · « **Reply #5 on:** 09/19/2022 01:25 pm »

The NGA for 23rd was issued on 17th when launch could be early on 18th UTC. I think this suggests they can get the pad ready in 5 days, but this only works if both ASDS are available to alternate because the other pad is not in use. Shortest time for ASDS turnaround is more like 7 or 8 days.

This would suggest earliest schedule would be:

24th 4-35 ASOG (5 day pad, 11 day ASOG)
29th 4-36 JRTI (5 day pad, 10 day JRTI)
3rd Oct Crew-5 ASOG (22 day pad, 9 day ASOG)

Current schedule 5th Oct Galaxy 33&34 - not possible 6 day JRTI
Earliest possible perhaps 6th Galaxy 33&34 JRTI (7 day pad, 7 day JRTI )

If the 23rd NGA date holds then it suggests they can do 4 day pad turnarounds, and something like 23rd 27th 3rd 5th remains possible.

Of course, if Fiona makes recovery impossible then don't hold breathe for these dates

crandles57 · « **Reply #6 on:** 09/20/2022 09:01 pm »

http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html [Sept 20]

Quote

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 24, between 7:30pm and 10pm EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on very end of September or October TBD. A Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch four astronauts on NASA's Crew-5 mission on October 3, at the earliest, at 12:45pm EDT. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Galaxy 33 & 34 communication satellites on October 5 at 7:07pm EDT.

While Galaxy is still stated to be Oct 5th, the "on very end of September or October TBD" suggest that at present they are still trying to fit in 2 starlink launches which will almost certainly delay Galaxy 33 34 launch. But of course this could change whether or not we see any delays with 4-35 and 4-36.

Zed_Noir · « **Reply #7 on:** 09/20/2022 10:34 pm »

Quote from: crandles57 on 09/19/2022 01:25 pm

The NGA for 23rd was issued on 17th when launch could be early on 18th UTC. I think this suggests they can get the pad ready in 5 days, but this only works if both ASDS are available to alternate because the other pad is not in use. Shortest time for ASDS turnaround is more like 7 or 8 days.

This would suggest earliest schedule would be:

24th 4-35 ASOG (5 day pad, 11 day ASOG)
29th 4-36 JRTI (5 day pad, 10 day JRTI)
3rd Oct Crew-5 ASOG (22 day pad, 9 day ASOG)

Current schedule 5th Oct Galaxy 33&34 - not possible 6 day JRTI
Earliest possible perhaps 6th Galaxy 33&34 JRTI (7 day pad, 7 day JRTI )

If the 23rd NGA date holds then it suggests they can do 4 day pad turnarounds, and something like 23rd 27th 3rd 5th remains possible.
<snip>

Maybe SpaceX could drop the 4-36 booster off at Jacksonville and send JRTI back out to recover the Galaxy 33&34 booster?

crandles57 · « **Reply #8 on:** 09/21/2022 03:20 pm »

Quote from: Zed_Noir on 09/20/2022 10:34 pm

Maybe SpaceX could drop the 4-36 booster off at Jacksonville and send JRTI back out to recover the Galaxy 33&34 booster?

Interesting idea.

If ASDS turnaround longer than pad turnaround and ASDS is a limiting factor to launch cadence, then why not Port operations at Jacksonville?

Extra costs for longer trip from port to refurbishment facility but seems like they would be small compared maritime crew savings and faster launch cadence.

If some launches heading NE and some SE and some due East, might need extra caps for leg retraction or maybe that and the people with the right experience can easily be transported as necessary.

.

Another possibility for fitting in 4-35 and 4-36 and still doing Galaxy 33& 34 on 5th October would be if Artemis launch delays Crew-5 so ASOG can do the Galaxy landing & collection.
http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

Quote

A Falcon 9 from pad 39A will launch four astronauts on NASA's Crew-5 mission on October 3, at the earliest

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #9 on:** 09/25/2022 01:39 am »

I offer these three cancel-and-replace NGA notices which may be for this launch. These all arrived early UTC on September 24.

The Rocket Launching notice cancels the Artemis I Rocket Launching notice, but it is clearly not a new Artemis I notice. The dates and times are not correct for Artemis I. They are for a mid-inclination Starlink launch (or something similar).

The two Space Debris notices (which are the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) cancel the two Space Debris notices for Starlink Group 4-35. 4-35 launched on September 24 as scheduled, with a Rocket Launching notice but with no Space Debris notice for second stage reentry.

So at this point my best guess is that none of these notices should have canceled any existing notices. Given that, the most likely scenario is that they are for this launch.

Quote from: NGA

NAVAREA IV 981/22(11, 26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   302236Z SEP TO 010300Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   012214Z TO 020238Z, 022153Z TO 030217Z,
   032131Z TO 040155Z, 042109Z TO 050133Z,
   052048Z TO 060112Z, 062026Z TO 070050Z,
   AND 072005Z TO 080029Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY
   A. 28-39.00N 080-38.03W, 28-48.00N 080-31.00W, 
      28-57.00N 080-21.00W, 29-04.00N 080-10.00W, 
      28-57.00N 080-06.00W, 28-48.00N 080-13.00W, 
      28-34.00N 080-27.00W.
   B. 31-59.00N 076-43.00W, 32-48.00N 076-10.00W,
      33-19.00N 075-08.00W, 33-11.00N 075-00.00W,
      32-31.00N 075-20.00W, 31-52.00N 076-32.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 971/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 080129Z OCT 22.

Quote from: NGA

240531Z SEP 22
HYDROPAC 2649/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
DNC 06, DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   302346Z TO 302359Z SEP, ALTERNATE
   010001Z TO 010346Z, 012324Z TO 012359Z,
   020001Z TO 020324Z, 022303Z TO 022359Z,
   030001Z TO 030303Z, 032241Z TO 032359Z,
   040001Z TO 040241Z, 042219Z TO 042359Z,
   050001Z TO 050219Z, 052158Z TO 052359Z,
   060001Z TO 060158Z, 062136Z TO 062359Z,
   AND 070001Z TO 070136Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2635/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 070236Z OCT 22.//

Quote from: NGA

240531Z SEP 22
NAVAREA XII 710/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC OCEAN.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   302346Z TO 302359Z SEP, ALTERNATE
   010001Z TO 010346Z, 012324Z TO 012359Z,
   020001Z TO 020324Z, 022303Z TO 022359Z,
   030001Z TO 030303Z, 032241Z TO 032359Z,
   040001Z TO 040241Z, 042219Z TO 042359Z,
   050001Z TO 050219Z, 052158Z TO 052359Z,
   060001Z TO 060158Z, 062136Z TO 062359Z,
   AND 070001Z TO 070136Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 705/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 070236Z OCT 22.//

crandles57 · « **Reply #10 on:** 09/25/2022 04:45 pm »

Quote

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 30 or October 1 around 6pm EDT.

per Launch Photography 25 September update
http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #11 on:** 09/25/2022 08:18 pm »

Quote from: Salo on 09/21/2022 04:14 pm

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7005 [September 21 update]
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Starlink Group 4-36
Launch Time
NET September, 2022
...
Vehicles
B1062
Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship

Possible interference with September 30 Atlas V launch on neighboring SLC-41?

Quote from: crandles57 on 09/25/2022 04:45 pm

Quote
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 30 or October 1 around 6pm EDT.
per Launch Photography 25 September update
http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

Re: SES-20 and 21:

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/25/2022 07:13 pm

SFN Launch Schedule, updated September 22:
Launch window September 30 21:36 to 22:16 UTC
= 5:36 to 6:16 pm EDT

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #12 on:** 09/26/2022 03:03 am »

Clarification of September 30 launch time:

Quote from: Salo on 09/25/2022 09:40 pm

NextSpaceFlight, updated September 25:
22:36 UTC

= 6:36 pm EDT

That is 20 minutes after the closing of the Atlas V launch window.

There is also the question of the weather.

Edit: Atlas V launch delayed to October 4.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #13 on:** 09/26/2022 12:04 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/25/2022 01:39 am

I offer these three cancel-and-replace NGA notices which may be for this launch. These all arrived early UTC on September 24.

The Rocket Launching notice cancels the Artemis I Rocket Launching notice, but it is clearly not a new Artemis I notice. The dates and times are not correct for Artemis I. They are for a mid-inclination Starlink launch (or something similar).

The two Space Debris notices (which are the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) cancel the two Space Debris notices for Starlink Group 4-35. 4-35 launched on September 24 as scheduled, with a Rocket Launching notice but with no Space Debris notice for second stage reentry.

So at this point my best guess is that none of these notices should have canceled any existing notices. Given that, the most likely scenario is that they are for this launch.

The coordinates do appear to match previous mid inclination Starlink launches. However, at least one of the area A. coordinates appears to have been omitted from the NGA notice. Also, I suspect that more Space Debris coordinates could be published to make the area rectangular.

scr00chy · « **Reply #14 on:** 09/27/2022 09:52 am »

Possible delay:

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1574585313686495233

Rondaz · « **Reply #15 on:** 09/27/2022 10:59 am »

Interestingly enough this created a scenario where Starlink 4-36 was slated to launch exactly one hour after SES 20&21 launched from SLC-41. In my understanding the eastern range is not able to support such a hasty one hour turnaround. Still subject to delays due to Ian as well.

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1574586450326208527

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #16 on:** 09/27/2022 01:24 pm »

No delay yet based on this L-3 weather forecast being issued. But it's only 20% 'Go' for September 30. 60% 'Go' for October 1. The Booster Recovery Weather risk is High for both days. All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #17 on:** 09/28/2022 10:09 am »

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 27:

Quote

[Pending Hurricane Ian 🌀]
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 30 earliest at 6:41pm or later EDT.

= 22:41 UTC

crandles57 · « **Reply #18 on:** 09/28/2022 12:48 pm »

Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 09/28/2022 10:09 am

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 27:
Quote
[Pending Hurricane Ian 🌀]
The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on September 30 earliest at 6:41pm or later EDT.
= 22:41 UTC

Where is safe for ASDS? and how after hurricane passed to reach landing zone?

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #19 on:** 09/28/2022 04:05 pm »

Cross-post:

Quote from: Sam Ho on 09/28/2022 03:22 pm

Hurricane Warning now in effect for the Cape:
Quote
BULLETIN
Hurricane Ian Advisory Number 24
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
1100 AM EDT Wed Sep 28 2022

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS EYEWALL OF IAN MOVING ONSHORE...
...IAN WILL CAUSE CATASTROPHIC STORM SURGE, WINDS, AND FLOODING IN
THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SOON...

SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...26.3N 82.5W
ABOUT 45 MI...75 KM WNW OF NAPLES FLORIDA
ABOUT 50 MI...80 KM SSW OF PUNTA GORDA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...155 MPH...250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 9 MPH...15 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...937 MB...27.67 INCHES

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Storm Surge Warning has been issued from the mouth of the St.
Mary's River to the mouth of the South Santee River, South Carolina.

A Hurricane Warning has been issued from Sebastian Inlet, Florida
northward to the Flagler/Volusia County Line, Florida.

A Hurricane Watch has been issued from the Flagler/Volusia County
Line to the South Santee River.

A Tropical Storm Warning has been extended northward to Little
River Inlet, South Carolina.

scr00chy · « **Reply #20 on:** 09/28/2022 10:37 pm »

https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/09/28/spacex-ula-postpone-launches-as-hurricane-ian-threatens-florida/

Quote

That shuffling in SpaceX’s launch schedule would push back the next Starlink mission from Cape Canaveral until mid-October. SpaceX officials have said they prioritize missions with customer payloads.

Alexphysics · « **Reply #21 on:** 09/28/2022 10:39 pm »

Yeh the call was finally made yesterday to call off Sep 30 for launch. It was not surprising to see that today the SLD45 didn't release any forecast for that mission. ASOG will support Galaxy 33&34 and this mission will fly after Hotbird 13F. Kinda glad USSF-44 is double RTLS with no droneship needed 😅

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #22 on:** 09/28/2022 10:47 pm »

The NGA Rocket Launching notice is canceled TBD. I expect that the Space Debris notices will also be canceled soon.

Quote from: NGA

282122Z SEP 22
NAVAREA IV 1005/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
CANCEL NAVAREA IV 981/22 AND THIS MSG,
OPERATION POSTPONED.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #23 on:** 09/28/2022 11:06 pm »

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 28; already partially obsolete within hours; my bold:

Quote

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch four astronauts on NASA's Crew-5 mission on October TBA, around 11am-noon EDT. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Galaxy 33 & 34 communication satellites on October 6 at 7:07pm EDT. Sunset is 7:03pm. The launch window stretches to 8:14pm. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Hotbird 13F comsat for Eutelsat on October 13 at 11:25pm EDT. The launch window stretches two hours. Upcoming launches include more Starlink satellites from pad 40 on October TBD. And a Falcon Heavy will launch USSF-44 for the US Space Force from pad 39A in late October TBA. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #24 on:** 10/02/2022 06:36 pm »

Cross-post:

Quote from: Salo on 09/29/2022 08:35 am

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7005
Quote
Starlink Group 4-36
Launch Time
NET Oct 20, 2022

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #25 on:** 10/11/2022 04:03 pm »

The FAA Current Operations Plan has this as October 18:

Quote from: FAA

STARLINK GROUP 4-36 CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:    10_18_22    1528Z-2032Z
BACKUP:     10_19_22    1507Z-2010Z
            10_20_22    1445Z-1949Z
            10_21_22    1424Z-1927Z

... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that. They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

Steven Pietrobon · « **Reply #26 on:** 10/15/2022 06:15 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/11/2022 04:03 pm

... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that. They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

Hotbird 13F is now correctly listed as 15 October UTC, with Starlink 4-36 still on for 18 October UTC.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #27 on:** 10/15/2022 01:07 pm »

Quote from: Steven Pietrobon on 10/15/2022 06:15 am

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/11/2022 04:03 pm
... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that. They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

Hotbird 13F is now correctly listed as 15 October UTC, with Starlink 4-36 still on for 18 October UTC.

I had noticed that but didn't think it was worth commenting on. So far there are neither an FAA TFR nor an NGA notice for any date, and those are what really count.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #28 on:** 10/15/2022 08:23 pm »

And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas). Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th. It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The warning periods are long enough to support same-day backup times.

Quote from: NGA

120700Z OCT 22
NAVAREA IV 1094/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   201445Z TO 201949Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   211424Z TO 211928Z, 221402Z TO 221906Z,
   231340Z TO 231845Z, 241319Z TO 241823Z, 
   251257Z TO 251802Z AND 261236Z TO 261740Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.45N 080-38.00W, 28-48.00N 080-31.00W,
      28-57.00N 080-21.00W, 29-04.00N 080-10.00W,
      28-57.00N 080-06.00W, 28-48.00N 080-13.00W,
      28-34.00N 080-27.00W, 28-31.55N 080-33.54W.
   B. 31-59.00N 076-43.00W, 32-48.00N 076-10.00W,
      33-19.00N 075-08.00W, 33-11.00N 075-00.00W,
      32-31.00N 075-20.00W, 31-52.00N 076-32.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261840Z OCT 22.

Quote from: NGA

130250Z OCT 22
HYDROPAC 2896/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z, 
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z, 
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND 
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.

Quote from: NGA

130250Z OCT 22
NAVAREA XII 769/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z, 
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z, 
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND 
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #29 on:** 10/16/2022 03:17 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/15/2022 08:23 pm

And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas). Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th. It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The warning periods are long enough to support same-day backup times.

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 657km downrange. As is often the case, the space debris area appears to be incomplete.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #30 on:** 10/16/2022 02:05 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1581647305404387328

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Departure! Bob and ASOG droneship are heading to sea for Starlink Group 4-36

Who missed Starlink??? They are back!!! 🙂

nsf.live/spacecoast

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #31 on:** 10/16/2022 02:51 pm »

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1581658697574469632

Quote

SpaceX Drone Ship "A Shortfall Of Gravitas".

nsf.live/spacecoast

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #32 on:** 10/16/2022 03:45 pm »

https://twitter.com/raul74cz/status/1581671848546545665

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LHA map for #Starlink Group 4-36 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 20 Oct 14:45 UTC, altern. 21 to 26 Oct based on NOTMAR/NOTAMs. B1062.10 planned landing with roughly estimated fairing recovery approx. 656km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in eastern Pacific. https://bit.ly/3VwLBw5

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #33 on:** 10/16/2022 04:17 pm »

https://twitter.com/jconcilus/status/1581659783987617794

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The @SpaceX launch support vessel Bob has exited Port Canaveral with droneship A Shortfall of Gravitas (ASOG) in tow. Destination: Landing Zone. Fair winds and following seas! 👍🏻🚀⛴

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #34 on:** 10/16/2022 10:12 pm »

NextSpaceFlight, updated October 12:
Launch October 20, 14:45 UTC
= 10:45 am EDT

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #35 on:** 10/17/2022 04:27 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/15/2022 08:23 pm

And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas). Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th. It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The FAA TFRs aren't out yet, but the 18th and 19th have been removed from the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan.

Quote from: FAA

STARLINK GROUP 4-36 CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:        10_20_22        1445Z-1949Z
BACKUP:         10_21_22        1424Z-1927Z

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #36 on:** 10/17/2022 05:45 pm »

L-3 launch weather forecast only 20% GO but improves to 60% next day

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #37 on:** 10/17/2022 05:50 pm »

The 45th Weather Squadron seems to be a little confused. Issued 27 Sept 2022, valid 30 Sept 2022, next forecast 28 Sept 2022.

"This forecast is based on the 0500L National Hurricane Center official forecast for Major Hurricane Ian."

scr00chy · « **Reply #38 on:** 10/17/2022 05:51 pm »

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/17/2022 05:45 pm

L-3 launch weather forecast only 20% GO but improves to 60% next day

This is just a reupload of the pre-Ian weather report from Sep 27.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #39 on:** 10/17/2022 08:21 pm »

Slight change to the primary launch time on October 20; source is Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated October 17:

Quote

The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch more Starlink satellites from pad 40 on October 20 at 10:50 a.m. EDT or later.

=14:50 UTC

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #40 on:** 10/17/2022 08:54 pm »

The correct weather forecast has been posted. 80% 'Go' for October 20. 70% 'Go' for October 21. All Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #41 on:** 10/18/2022 03:58 am »

Quote from: OneSpeed on 10/16/2022 03:17 am

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/15/2022 08:23 pm
And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas). Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th. It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The warning periods are long enough to support same-day backup times.

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 657km downrange. As is often the case, the space debris area appears to be incomplete.

Here are new cancel-and-replace NGA Space Debris notices with different coordinates (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Quote from: NGA

180310Z OCT 22
HYDROPAC 2922/22(21,22,83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z, 
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z, 
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND 
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   13-50.00N 113-53.00W, 14-46.00N 115-19.00W,
   14-26.00S 135-24.00W, 15-23.00S 133-58.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 2896/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.//

Quote from: NGA

180310Z OCT 22
NAVAREA XII 776/22(21,22,83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS 
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE 
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z, 
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z, 
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND 
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   13-50.00N 113-53.00W, 14-46.00N 115-19.00W,
   14-26.00S 135-24.00W, 15-23.00S 133-58.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 769/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.//

OneSpeed · « **Reply #42 on:** 10/18/2022 04:29 am »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/18/2022 03:58 am

Here are new cancel-and-replace NGA Space Debris notices with different coordinates (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

That's better

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #43 on:** 10/18/2022 01:00 pm »

L-2 weather forecast. 90% 'Go' for October 20. 70% 'Go' for October 21. The Upper-Level Wind Shear risk is Low-Moderate for October 20. All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low.

Rondaz · « **Reply #44 on:** 10/19/2022 02:24 am »

The next launch will be Starlink 4-36 It is scheduled for Thursday (Oct 20th) at 10:50 AM ET. B1062 will be making its 10th time.

https://twitter.com/JennyHPhoto/status/1582386032841920512

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #45 on:** 10/19/2022 11:02 am »

twitter.com/spacetfrs/status/1582685011701952512

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Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, FL temporary restriction:
From October 20, 2022 at 1415 UTC to To October 20, 2022 at 1922 UTC
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18,000ft
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_6122.html
Likely:Starlink-63 (4-36) (rocketlaunch.live/launch/starlin…)

https://twitter.com/spacetfrs/status/1582688048663314433

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Cape Canaveral/Kennedy Space Center, FL temporary restriction:
From October 20, 2022 at 1415 UTC to To October 20, 2022 at 1922 UTC
Altitude: From the surface up to and including 18,000ft
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_6123.html
Likely:Starlink-63 (4-36) (rocketlaunch.live/launch/starlin…)

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #46 on:** 10/19/2022 01:13 pm »

L-1 weather forecast. >90% 'Go' for October 20. 80% 'Go' for October 21. Upper-Level Wind Shear risk is Low-Moderate for October 20. All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low for both days.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #47 on:** 10/19/2022 06:17 pm »

https://twitter.com/tskelso/status/1582789471791030273

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CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 4-36 launch scheduled for 2022-10-20 at 14:50:40 UTC from Cape Canaveral. Deployment of 54 satellites is planned for 15:06:08.700 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #48 on:** 10/19/2022 06:33 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #49 on:** 10/19/2022 06:34 pm »

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1582801873630744577

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Targeting Thursday, October 20 for a Falcon 9 launch of 54 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from SLC-40 in Florida → https://www.spacex.com/launches/sl4-36/

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SpaceX is targeting Thursday, October 20 for a Falcon 9 launch of 54 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The instantaneous launch window is at 10:50 a.m. ET (14:50 UTC), and a backup opportunity is available on Friday, October 21 at 10:29 a.m. ET (14:29 UTC).

The first stage booster supporting this mission previously launched GPS III Space Vehicle 04, GPS III Space Vehicle 05, Inspiration4, Ax-1, Nilesat 301, and four Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about five minutes prior to liftoff.

soltasto · « **Reply #50 on:** 10/19/2022 08:54 pm »

"Press kit" capture with OCR

Rondaz · « **Reply #51 on:** 10/20/2022 12:33 am »

Upcoming 31st #Starlink launch of this year via #SpaceX's #Falcon9 vehicle

Booster supporting this mission

https://twitter.com/_rykllan/status/1582802456643526656

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #52 on:** 10/20/2022 06:02 am »

Rondaz · « **Reply #53 on:** 10/20/2022 10:20 am »

Fifty-four Starlink internet satellites are set for liftoff Thursday from Florida, continuing SpaceX’s launches for a network with an ever-expanding market linking rural households, ships, planes, and Ukrainian military forces fighting against Russia.

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1582965712233975808

Rondaz · « **Reply #54 on:** 10/20/2022 11:52 am »

Orbital Launch no. 141 of 2022

Starlink L | SpaceX | Oct 20 | 1450 UTC

@SpaceX to launch another batch of 54 #Starlink on its #Falcon9 (booster #B1062.10) from @SLDelta45 SLC-40, Cape Canaveral, #Florida. Once in orbit, 3,500 have been launched so far!

https://twitter.com/SpaceIntellige3/status/1583052059976224768

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #55 on:** 10/20/2022 01:08 pm »

https://twitter.com/tgmetsfan98/status/1583082097656623106

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Today's mission will push the Starlink constellation past another milestone: 3,500 satellites launched.

Falcon 9 B1062-10 will lift off from SLC-40 at 10:50 AM EDT (14:50 UTC).

By Alejandro Alcantarilla Romera (@Alexphysics13):

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/10/spacex-3500-starlink/

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #56 on:** 10/20/2022 02:40 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #57 on:** 10/20/2022 02:41 pm »

NSF live view

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #58 on:** 10/20/2022 02:47 pm »

SpaceX webcast is live

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #59 on:** 10/20/2022 02:48 pm »

1st state LOX load complete

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #60 on:** 10/20/2022 02:49 pm »

Stage 2 LOX load complete

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #61 on:** 10/20/2022 02:50 pm »

F9 is in start-up; LD GO for launch!

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #62 on:** 10/20/2022 02:51 pm »

Launch!

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #63 on:** 10/20/2022 02:52 pm »

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1583108621641973761

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #64 on:** 10/20/2022 02:53 pm »

Max Q

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #65 on:** 10/20/2022 02:54 pm »

MECO, stage sep & 2nd stage ignition

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #66 on:** 10/20/2022 02:54 pm »

Fairing sep

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #67 on:** 10/20/2022 02:56 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #68 on:** 10/20/2022 02:57 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #69 on:** 10/20/2022 02:57 pm »

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #70 on:** 10/20/2022 02:58 pm »

S1 entry burn start-up

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #71 on:** 10/20/2022 02:59 pm »

Entry burn shutdown

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #72 on:** 10/20/2022 03:00 pm »

Landed!

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #73 on:** 10/20/2022 03:01 pm »

SECO and nominal orbital insertion

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #74 on:** 10/20/2022 03:03 pm »

Webcast ended; deploy shortly

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #75 on:** 10/20/2022 03:04 pm »

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1583110974776614915

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Falcon 9’s first stage has landed on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #76 on:** 10/20/2022 03:07 pm »

https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1583112511720521729

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Deployment of 54 Starlink satellites confirmed

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #77 on:** 10/20/2022 03:16 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1583113123862441986

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NSF camera views of Falcon 9 B1062 launching the Starlink 4-36 mission from SLC-40.

Overview:
nasaspaceflight.com/2022/10/spacex…

NSF Livestream replay :youtube.com/watch?v=G8aLGC…

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #78 on:** 10/20/2022 03:18 pm »

https://twitter.com/mike_seeley/status/1583111579607785477

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Rapid launch cadence and reusability on display today as #SpaceX has one #Falcon9 in the air and another booster in port, just off-loaded and getting ready for re-use.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #79 on:** 10/20/2022 03:26 pm »

https://twitter.com/johnpisaniphoto/status/1583113872302407680

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An empty boardwalk in Cocoa Beach and a Falcon 9 rocket with some more Starlinks launching from SLC-40 this morning at 10:50am EDT.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #80 on:** 10/20/2022 03:29 pm »

https://twitter.com/jennyhphoto/status/1583117866185814016

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B1062 launches with Starlink 4-36 while B1069-3 sits at Port Canaveral after arriving last night.

📷: Me for @SuperclusterHQ

[Click through to twitter to see shot clearly.]

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #81 on:** 10/20/2022 03:36 pm »

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1583119802909876225

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Falcon 9 launches 54 Starlink satellites from Cape Canaveral, Florida at 10:50 a.m. EDT

Chinakpradhan · « **Reply #82 on:** 10/20/2022 03:45 pm »

astonishingly this was the 20th landing on a asds in a year in this case A Shortfall Of Gravitas (ASOG)

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #83 on:** 10/20/2022 04:01 pm »

https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1583124837488218113

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Starlink 4-36 heads to orbit on a cloudy Florida morning from Cape Canaveral

scr00chy · « **Reply #84 on:** 10/20/2022 04:11 pm »

This marked the shortest time so far between two SpaceX launches from the same pad at 5d 9h 28m between Eutelsat Hotbird 13F and Starlink 4-36. Previous record set a few weeks ago was ~14 hours longer.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #85 on:** 10/20/2022 04:39 pm »

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1583133885696987136

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Congrats to @SpaceX team on 48th launch this year! Falcon 9 now holds record for most launches of a single vehicle type in a year.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #86 on:** 10/20/2022 07:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/launchphoto/status/1583176895658852352

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Launch of Starlink 4-36

Attached is another of Ben’s launch photos from the SpaceX website

Rondaz · « **Reply #87 on:** 10/21/2022 02:30 am »

Update / Update

Last update of the fleet [email protected]

https://twitter.com/SpaceNosey/status/1583141647742685184

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #88 on:** 10/21/2022 01:45 pm »

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 10/20/2022 04:39 pm

twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1583133885696987136

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Congrats to @SpaceX team on 48th launch this year! Falcon 9 now holds record for most launches of a single vehicle type in a year.

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1583448926132195328

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Congratulations

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #89 on:** 10/21/2022 05:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/tskelso/status/1583508784818712576

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CelesTrak has ephemeris-based SupGP data for all 54 satellites from the #Starlink Group 4-36 launch (2022-136) from Cape Canaveral on 2022-10-20 at 14:50:40 UTC:

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #90 on:** 10/21/2022 08:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1583550968259817472

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Starlink 4-36: ASOG and B1062 are likely to arrive overnight Saturday, into Sunday morning.

Bob with fairing halves will arrive Saturday morning.

OneSpeed · « **Reply #91 on:** 10/22/2022 12:26 am »

Here is a comparison of the webcast telemetry from the two most recent 54 satellite Starlink launches from the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, 4-34 and 4-36.

The first stage profiles are essentially the same, but there is a difference in the second stage terminal guidance that I have not noticed previously.

4-34 throttled back about 3% at the T+490 second mark, but 4-36 throttled back perhaps 2% at three points: T+ 450, 475 and 508 seconds.

4-36 burnt for a couple of seconds longer, so the area under the two curves is the same, giving the same impulse. Gravity losses would have been fast approaching zero at this stage, so it would be interesting to know what this more complex profile achieves. Insertion accuracy?

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #92 on:** 10/22/2022 08:52 am »

High res version of another Ben Cooper photo posted by SpaceX

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #93 on:** 10/22/2022 02:00 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1583820233235902464

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Bob is inbound to Port Canaveral. Hopefully carrying 2 x fairing halves from Starlink 4-36

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #94 on:** 10/22/2022 05:12 pm »

https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1583867737239326722

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Bob returns to Port Canaveral with what appears to be only one fairing half

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #95 on:** 10/22/2022 06:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1583870603802472449

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Arrival! Bob returns from Starlink 4-36 with just one fairing half. A rare loss 😢... unless they planned to expend one half.

nsf.live/spacecoast

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #96 on:** 10/23/2022 07:05 am »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1583944241705017345

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Expecting this [B1062 arrival] approx dawn on Sunday, once cruise traffic clears

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #97 on:** 10/23/2022 12:46 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1584145113911275521

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A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship is inbound to Port Canaveral

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #98 on:** 10/23/2022 01:05 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1584168967249489922

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Welcome back B1062! (ft. bonus bird)

Live: nsf.live/spacecoast

Rondaz · « **Reply #99 on:** 10/23/2022 01:35 pm »

Closeup soot mark inspection on B1062 @NASASpaceflight

She's still got it

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1584173484137070592

Rondaz · « **Reply #100 on:** 10/23/2022 01:36 pm »

The 10 missions B1062 has completed are:

• GPS-III SV04
• GPS-III SV05
• Inspiration4
• Starlink 4-5
• Axiom-1
• Starlink 4-16
• Nilesat-301
• Starlink 4-25
• Starlink 4-27
• Starlink 4-36

https://twitter.com/JennyHPhoto/status/1584175855659790337

Rondaz · « **Reply #101 on:** 10/23/2022 01:36 pm »

Welcome back B1062!

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584170877758816256

Rondaz · « **Reply #102 on:** 10/23/2022 01:38 pm »

B1062 returns after 10 missions.

https://twitter.com/JennyHPhoto/status/1584165438019469314

Rondaz · « **Reply #103 on:** 10/23/2022 01:38 pm »

Falcon 9 B1062.10 returns to Port Canaveral after launching Starlink 4-36 on Thursday. A new double digit re-used booster in the SpaceX fleet!

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584173040581038081

Rondaz · « **Reply #104 on:** 10/23/2022 01:39 pm »

Tug Crosby Skipper is on the haul today followed by assistance from the Port Canaveral tugboats

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584174095444639744

Rondaz · « **Reply #105 on:** 10/23/2022 01:39 pm »

ASOG carries B1062 back to Port on a sunny Sunday morning

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584173812186087424

Rondaz · « **Reply #106 on:** 10/23/2022 01:41 pm »

Fishing for a booster

https://twitter.com/mama_yoda67/status/1584173296912072704

Rondaz · « **Reply #107 on:** 10/23/2022 02:00 pm »

Can you spot the Canaveral Pilot boarding in the bottom corner?

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584178027470065666

Rondaz · « **Reply #108 on:** 10/23/2022 02:00 pm »

Many different boats go into helping ensure a safe arrival of the doneship and booster into the port, two port tugs and a port boat carrying workers to board the barge are helping here, along with the pilot boat earlier

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584179836112642049

Rondaz · « **Reply #109 on:** 10/23/2022 02:01 pm »

Falcon 9 B1062 is glowing in the morning sun after its 10th successful mission

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584181111093047296

Rondaz · « **Reply #110 on:** 10/23/2022 02:05 pm »

Boaters wait patiently on the side as Crosby Skipper pulls droneship A Shortfall of Gravitas into the mouth of Port Canaveral

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584183992231727104

Rondaz · « **Reply #111 on:** 10/23/2022 02:08 pm »

https://twitter.com/JennyHPhoto/status/1584182937050046466

Rondaz · « **Reply #112 on:** 10/23/2022 02:27 pm »

B1062 returns on a beautiful Sunday morning!

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584187914056912896

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #113 on:** 10/23/2022 03:33 pm »

https://twitter.com/tweetsitweets/status/1584184152764518400

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B1062 and B1069 in Port Canaveral this morning 🚀

@SpaceOffshore

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #114 on:** 10/23/2022 04:12 pm »

https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1584190275068776450

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A good look at Octograbber, which has a firm hold of Falcon 9 on the deck of A Shortfall of Gravitas

ZachS09 · « **Reply #115 on:** 10/23/2022 04:37 pm »

I’ve never seen a drone ship this rusty before.

Rondaz · « **Reply #116 on:** 10/23/2022 07:15 pm »

The gangs all here! Bob, Doug, JRTI, ASOG, Crosby Skipper, alongside 2 Falcon 9 Boosters B1062 and B1069 are all present in port Canaveral. A brief rest is in order for the fleet, as the next scheduled offshore landing is almost a month out. Next up, Falcon Heavy!

https://twitter.com/JerryPikePhoto/status/1584244449042784256

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #117 on:** 10/24/2022 07:56 am »

https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1584343327482482688

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Booster 1062 basking in the sunset glow after its return from the Atlantic. With the next Cape launch being a Falcon Heavy, both droneships will have some much needed time in port for maintenance. It's a rare to see the all of the ships together!

📷 Me for @NASASpaceflight