FAILURE: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur (UPDATES)

[Steven Pietrobon]

Hearing reports that search and rescue have reached landing site! The crew are out of the capsule. Getting the crew ready to leave the site.

[Chris Bergin]

Search and Recovery have found the crew - and they were already out of the capsule. Going to transport them to Moscow.

[Ben the Space Brit]

First the sabotage (as claimed by the Russian authorities) of Soyuz MS-09 and now a launch abort on Soyuz MS-10. I suspect that Administrator Bridenstine will be sitting down with the commercial crew project managers and telling them that he wants to see the launch schedule for Dragon and Starliner trending left not right from this point forwards and on a dramatic scale.

[pietro]

Here's hoping Mr. Trampoline gets fired after this incident.

Please don't kid with this. Peoples lives were in serious danger. This is a huge setback for human spaceflight. Although the Russians had their fair share of problems with other spacecrafts the human Soyuz flights were quite safe.

Not necessarily.  The spacecraft performed abort and got the crew back on land alive.  Anomalies like this are what abort procedures and practices are made for.

I know. It is actually the silver lining in the calamity that abort & rescue worked. Still, if the Soyuz gets grounded then ISS is unreachable by humans at least until the middle of next year. (I'd hope Dragon 2 can be accelerated, but this will have rather a slow-down efect:()

[niwax]

With Proton already dead after a few failures I worry for Russian space. If this casts doubt on their crew capabilities, that's the end of their last somewhat profitable space ventures. With little domestic interest this might be game over

[Phillip Clark]

See my comments about the interval between the 1983 launch abort and the Soyuz-T 10 launch five months later on the " Implications of Soyuz MS-10 launch failure on ISS, crew rotation,Commercial Crew" thread.

[MattBaker]

I suspect that Director Bridenstine will be sitting down with the commercial crew project managers and telling them that he wants to see the launch schedule for Dragon and Starliner trending left not right from this point forwards and on a dramatic scale.

I'd rather they take the time it takes them to get the job done and get the job done safely, no use launching a month earlier to have made the same mistakes in your rush that you're chastising the Russian space program for...

[eeergo]

First the sabotage (as claimed by the Russian authorities) of Soyuz MS-09 and now a launch abort on Soyuz MS-10. I suspect that Director Bridenstine will be sitting down with the commercial crew project managers and telling them that he wants to see the launch schedule for Dragon and Starliner trending left not right from this point forwards and on a dramatic scale.

Indeed, all this seems very coincidental, although we'll have to wait for the Comissions to finish their work to understand if it's reasonable to find something fishy in all this or these events are unfortunate coincidences. It does seem weird a rocket without failures in its 18 years of existence, and with a first stage that hasn't seen a failure for ages, does it now, precisely when Roscosmos is under worrisome management, and in a "gapfiller" flight with **just two** crewmembers...

In any case, let's take further discussion of possibilities to the fallout discussion thread.

[JamesH65]

I suspect that Director Bridenstine will be sitting down with the commercial crew project managers and telling them that he wants to see the launch schedule for Dragon and Starliner trending left not right from this point forwards and on a dramatic scale.

I'd rather they take the time it takes them to get the job done and get the job done safely, no use launching a month earlier to have made the same mistakes in your rush that you're chastising the Russian space program for...

SpaceX say the Dragon2 is ready to go, the delay is paperwork......

[FutureSpaceTourist]

Please can we take CC discussion to an appropriate thread, eg https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=37802.0

[Chris Bergin]

Updates only from this point please. Everything else into the discussion thread I've set up:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46546.0

[jacqmans]

Crew is going back to Baikonour, as reported by NASA TV

[jacqmans]

Roscosmos.  An emergency situation occurred during the launch of the Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft.

 11.10.2018 12:32

https://www.roscosmos.ru/25594/

 During the launch of the Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft, an abnormal situation occurred.  The emergency rescue system worked, the ship landed in Kazakhstan along the flight route.


The crew of the ship is alive and got in touch!  Rescuers have already moved to the search and evacuation of Alexei Ovchinin and Nick Haig.

Dmitry Rogozin, Director General of Roskosmos State Corporation, flew to the place of the landing crew.

[Chris Bergin]

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1050337300083822595

[B. Hendrickx]

https://tass.ru/kosmos/5662943

TASS quoting its sources as saying that after an initial medical check-up at the landing site the condition of the crew turns out to be "not entirely good". They will be flown back to Star City as soon as possible. No further details given.

[FinalFrontier]

Russia today has just stated on air there may be physical injuries (rt host either is speculating or pre floating something) Quoted the report they are not doing well. Speculating the capsule may have been struck by debris (unlikely both men were in contact with the flight control during the highest G period until the capsule dropped below the horizon for coms).

Not liking where this is going and this discussion of going directly to Moscow. I was just about to make a post thanking God they survived this since I think this is the highest velocity abort ever in which the crew survived the boost stage breaking up.

[Phillip Clark]

I don't know about the escape trajectory for this abort, but in 1983 Titov and Strekalov experienced a maximum of around 20g during their abort.   And it was revealed by a Russian cosmonaut at a British Interplanetary Society meeting that cosmonauts are trained only up to 8-10g.

[Steven Pietrobon]

NASA still reporting that the crew are in good condition. NASA statement from Bridenstine below.

[FinalFrontier]

Basically praying right now that the crew is going to be okay. Given the forces involved they may have survived the abort and descent but that does not mean they are out of danger. I do not like the lack of further information although NASA PAO is insisting they are "okay". Could be nothing just fog of war or bad translations I will hope that's the case.

[JoostNL]

Updates only from this point please. Everything else into the discussion thread I've set up:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46542.0

Hi Chris, I am getting an error on that thread, was it removed?