Author Topic: FAILURE: Soyuz-FG - Soyuz MS-10 - October 11, 2018 - Baikonur (UPDATES)  (Read 207132 times)

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Roscosmos.  The head of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin will visit the Progress RCC

 10/16/2018 16:26

https://www.roscosmos.ru/25619/

On October 17, 2018, the Progress RCC (included in the perimeter of the State Corporation) will hold a meeting of the emergency commission to investigate the emergency situation with the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle, which will be attended by Dmitry Rogozin, Director General of the Roscosmos State Corporation.  He will be accompanied by the leaders of the enterprises of the rocket and space industry.

In addition, the event will be attended by representatives of companies producing combat missile technology - general designers of the Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology and the State Rocket Center.  Makeyev.

Also on the same day, at the Samara enterprise, the head of Roscosmos and specialists of the rocket and space industry will study the progress in preparing the production of the Soyuz-5 medium-class launch vehicle, as well as elements of the super-heavy rocket.
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RSC Energia.  Details about the emergency rescue system

 10/17/2018 10:06

https://www.roscosmos.ru/25623/

On October 16, a meeting with representatives of the media was held at RSC Energia.  Igor Khamitsa, Deputy Chief Designer of Advanced Space Systems and RSC Energia systems, spoke about the crew rescue emergency response facilities (SAS) of the Soyuz launch vehicle and answered questions from journalists.

A clear triggering of the SAS during an emergency situation during the launch of the Soyuz MS-10 spacecraft, which ensured the safe return of the crew to Earth, caused keen media interest in the system, which was developed at RSC Energia in cooperation with other enterprises in the industry.  The meeting was organized so that, according to its results, the journalists could convey to the audience a comprehensive and, most importantly, reliable information.

Igor Khamitsa spoke in detail to the representatives of the press about the creation and basic principles of the CAC, as well as the logic of the operation of all systems of the ship and the launch vehicle during an emergency situation.

 “The emergency rescue system was developed by the followers of Korolev and modernized over the years.  It saves the crew throughout all phases of the flight, starting from the moment when the astronauts take their seats in the ship.  The system automatically tracks all phases of the flight.  Having received the “launch vehicle crash” signal, the SAS worked for a tenth of a second - and the crew returned safely to Earth, ”noted Igor Hamits.
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Live now (I suppose it will be archived once it's over): press conference with Krikalyov, Rogova (spokesperson for the Cosmonaut Training Center) and Ovchinin in Star City.

https://twitter.com/roscosmos/status/1052486291235975168
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Krikalev has confirmed that they have a video footage of a booster recontact with the core stage. He also noted that this failure's TMI "picture" is very similar to a failure in 1986.
/me hoping this video will be released to general public...  ::)

Recording is here (in Russian):
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Russian cosmonaut Aleksey Ovchinin discusses last Thursday's aborted launch of the Soyuz rocket with RT’s Igor Zhdanov.



Ovchinin says "A little over 19 minutes" for launch to landing, contradicting earlier statement implying 36 min.
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Orbital module... Oh  :-[

Photo from Russian social networks.

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Orbital module... Oh  :-[

Photo from Russian social networks.


Hey, it's in a lot better shape than other Soyuz orbital modules postflight!
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Orbital module... Oh  :-[

Photo from Russian social networks.


It is in surprisingly good shape for something that slammed into the steppes from 90+ kilometers up.
Got to hand it to the Russians. They build their spacecraft strong.
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Hey, it's in a lot better shape than other Soyuz orbital modules postflight!
I believe "shape" is not a correct word for what becomes of the orbital module when it burns up at reentry...

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Roscosmos.  Working visit to the RCC "Progress"

 10/17/2018 16:03

https://www.roscosmos.ru/25625/

Dmitry Rogozin, General Director of Roskosmos State Corporation, held a meeting of the commission to investigate the emergency situation that occurred on October 11, 2018 during the launch of the Soyuz MS-10 transport manned vehicle on the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle (RN), and a meeting on promising projects in the field of rocket production in the Samara Progress RCC.

Before the start of the meeting of the emergency commission, fragments of the first and second stages of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle were taken to Samara from the crash site.  Dmitry Rogozin heard reports, where he analyzed the results of a study of fragments of the steps of the Soyuz-FG LV, delivered to Samara from the crash site.  The main report was made by the acting Director General of RCC Progress Dmitry Baranov and reported on the verification of the stages of production of the Soyuz-type launch vehicle.  The meeting participants discussed the further course of work to investigate the causes of the accident.  A preliminary report on the results of the work of the commission will be ready by the end of this week.

In addition, Dmitry Rogozin visited the shop for final assembly and testing of launch vehicles and met with workers.  The head of Roscosmos paid special attention to the organization of production and ensuring product quality.

According to the results of work in Samara, the head of Roscosmos signed an order on the creation of a Coordination Council of work managers and chief designers to create a KRK of the middle, heavy and extra heavy classes.
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If the Apogee of the Spacecraft was 93Km (aprox 57 miles) then Col Nick Hague will get his US Air Force Astronaut wings and flown astronaut pin (US Air Force definition of Spaceflight is 50 miles). ;)

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Russian Kommersant website reports the launch failure was caused by an error in the assembly of the first stage block:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kommersant.ru%2Fdoc%2F3773058&edit-text=

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Rocket stage not so raised
The main version of the accident "Soyuz" - an error during assembly

On Wednesday, the Roscosmos delegation visited the Progress Samara Rocket and Space Center (RCC), where the wreckage of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle that crashed on October 11 was delivered. According to “Kommersant”, experts investigating the cause of the emergency, are inclined to the version with the error made during the assembly of the product in the assembly and test case of the Baikonur cosmodrome. The incident itself has already affected the astronauts' exit into space to study another state of emergency, which happened within the framework of the ISS project: the study of the hole in the Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft, which led to a violation of its tightness, was postponed to the beginning of December.
The fact that Dmitry Rogozin arrives at the RCC, “Kommersant” reported on October 15 . The state corporation said that before the start of the meeting of the emergency commission (headed by the deputy head of the Central Scientific Research Institute of Central Engineering Oleg Skorobogatov), fragments of the first and second stages of the Soyuz-FG rocket were examined, brought to Samara from the crash site.“Dmitry Rogozin heard reports, where they analyzed the results of the study of fragments of the steps of the Soyuz-FG <...> The meeting participants discussed the further progress in investigating the causes of the accident. A preliminary report on the results of the commission’s work will be ready by the end of this week”, Roskosmos reported. On Wednesday, Dmitry Baranov, acting General Director of Progress, made a presentation, reporting on the verification of the production stages of the Soyuz family of carriers.
Recall, on October 11, the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle with the Soyuz MS-10 manned spacecraft was launched from the Baikonur cosmodrome. The Roscosmos cosmonaut Alexey Ovchinin and NASA astronaut Nick Haig (for whom it would be the first flight into space) were heading for the ISS on board. However, during the flight of the Soyuz rocket , a carrier crashed , after which the crew in the descent capsule landed in the steppe of Kazakhstan. An emergency with carriers of this type occurred for the first time in 35 years. On Wednesday, the executive director of Roskosmos, Sergei Krikalev, said that in 1986 (the Soyuz-U booster rocket was being launched) a similar situation occurred: the first stage hit the second stage, as a result of which the flight stopped.

However, as it became known to “Kommersant”, the majority of experts involved in investigating the state of emergency with the Soyuz-FG is convinced that the cause of the accident was a mechanical problem that was made during the docking of the side units to the second stage of the rocket at the Baikonur cosmodrome. “Apparently, the damage was caused during the lifting of the side unit with a crane,” says one of the Kommersant interlocutors, who is close to the Russian Ministry of Defense. “This is not a design error and not a factory defect. Rather, we are talking about operational errors. " Roscosmos says that a report on the causes of the incident will be ready by the end of the week.

The emergency will not only affect the timing of launches of Soyuz-type carrier rockets ( Kommersant reported this also on October 15 ), but will also affect the program for the astronauts on board the ISS. At least the spacewalk to inspect the opening in the Soyuz MS-09 spacecraft, which was postponed from mid-November due to the Soyuz-FG missile accident, will take place no earlier than December. Then, according to Mr. Krikalev, “Kononenko will arrive (cosmonaut Oleg Kononenko. - “ Kommersant ”) and Prokopyev will not leave (cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev, who is now on the ISS . - “ Kommersant ” ), at this moment we will plan.” He added that the next manned flight to the ISS is scheduled for early December. Oleg Kononenko, Ann McClain (NASA) and David Saint-Jacques (CSAA) will fly next in space, as planned. Interfax reported that the Union MS-09 itself will be returned to the earth after December 20. Mr. Krikalev is convinced that the hole will not prevent the return of the apparatus.
Recall that a hole in the lining of the docked ship "Soyuz" was discovered on August 30, when the sensors on the ISS showed a slight decrease in air pressure. In the evening of the same day, the hole was treated with sealant, now it is completely sealed. It turned out that the air escaped through a hole with a diameter of 2 mm in the frame of the household compartment of the ship. At first, they assumed on the ground that micrometeorite was the cause of the hole, but it soon became clear that it was a hole made by a drill. The head of the Space Policy Institute, Ivan Moiseev, believes that it will not be possible to find out the answer to the question about the origin of the hole in the lining of the “Soyuz”. “The problem will remain unresolved, I have very big doubts that it will become clear what really happened there,” he said.
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If correct, it does not involve a design or manufacturing fault and would be relatively easy to remedy, facilitating a quick resumption of launches.
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If the Apogee of the Spacecraft was 93Km (aprox 57 miles) then Col Nick Hague will get his US Air Force Astronaut wings and flown astronaut pin (US Air Force definition of Spaceflight is 50 miles). ;)

I thought it was 100 Km to officialy reach space. The Karman line. Does NASA think 93 Km is close enough and give him the "wings"?

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I thought it was 100 Km to officialy reach space. The Karman line. Does NASA think 93 Km is close enough and give him the "wings"?

The American boundary is 80 km. US Air force awarded astronaut wings to test pilots who reached that height

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Both NASA and the Air Force award astronaut wings at 50 miles altitude. It's not the "definition of space," that is 100 km. It's merely the altitude at which they award astronaut wings.
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