Testing w/crew today in the waters off Galveston to ensure astronauts can get out of Orion safely after deep space missions atop @NASA_SLS
Are those actually astronauts in the raft ??....anyone recognize who they are ??
QuoteTesting w/crew today in the waters off Galveston to ensure astronauts can get out of Orion safely after deep space missions atop @NASA_SLShttps://twitter.com/nasa_orion/status/885615360279404544
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 07/13/2017 09:52 pmQuoteTesting w/crew today in the waters off Galveston to ensure astronauts can get out of Orion safely after deep space missions atop @NASA_SLShttps://twitter.com/nasa_orion/status/885615360279404544Emphasis mine. That is baloney. NASA d*mn well knows they can get the astronauts out safely after a deep space mission. They learned everything they had to learn half a century ago. IMO this is just another PR stunt to hide the complete lack of any meaningfull progress in manned spaceflight.
Obviously the ocean treats the spacecraft different after a deep-space mission than it does after a measly LEO mission. Enough so that NASA will blow millions of taxpayer's money to hire a Navy amphibious combat ship and four or five hundred crew and helo squadron professionals to go recover it.
Quote from: darkenfast on 07/14/2017 09:08 amObviously the ocean treats the spacecraft different after a deep-space mission than it does after a measly LEO mission. Enough so that NASA will blow millions of taxpayer's money to hire a Navy amphibious combat ship and four or five hundred crew and helo squadron professionals to go recover it.Since we aren't doing an amphibious assault in the next couple days, it really doesn't matter.
Quote from: ncb1397 on 07/15/2017 12:50 amQuote from: darkenfast on 07/14/2017 09:08 amObviously the ocean treats the spacecraft different after a deep-space mission than it does after a measly LEO mission. Enough so that NASA will blow millions of taxpayer's money to hire a Navy amphibious combat ship and four or five hundred crew and helo squadron professionals to go recover it.Since we aren't doing an amphibious assault in the next couple days, it really doesn't matter. Actually the money DOES matter. I spent twenty years in the Navy and I'm pretty sure NASA isn't getting these assets for free.
Navy ship don't just sit there unused. They have a multi-year program of training, maintenance and deployments to meet the requirements set down by the government and anyway, amphib ships don't go on "patrol". They have a specific mission. If you want to pretend that the money spent on these recoveries is imaginary and that a slimmed down commercial operation would be more expensive, go right ahead. These bloated recoveries are just one of the many ways in which the whole SLS/Orion system is going to spend itself out of existence.
Amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6) departed Sasebo, Japan, earlier this week for a routine patrol in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region, which falls under the 7 th Fleet area of responsibility, according to Navy officials. The Bonhomme Richard will finalize certifications and conduct joint for operations along with the 31 st Marine Expeditionary Unit.
Quote from: woods170 on 07/14/2017 08:46 amQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 07/13/2017 09:52 pmQuoteTesting w/crew today in the waters off Galveston to ensure astronauts can get out of Orion safely after deep space missions atop @NASA_SLShttps://twitter.com/nasa_orion/status/885615360279404544Emphasis mine. That is baloney. NASA d*mn well knows they can get the astronauts out safely after a deep space mission. They learned everything they had to learn half a century ago. IMO this is just another PR stunt to hide the complete lack of any meaningfull progress in manned spaceflight.that was 40 years ago. None of the people are still involved. There was no actual manual written to provide instructions.
Quote from: Jim on 07/14/2017 05:25 pmQuote from: woods170 on 07/14/2017 08:46 amQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 07/13/2017 09:52 pmQuoteTesting w/crew today in the waters off Galveston to ensure astronauts can get out of Orion safely after deep space missions atop @NASA_SLShttps://twitter.com/nasa_orion/status/885615360279404544Emphasis mine. That is baloney. NASA d*mn well knows they can get the astronauts out safely after a deep space mission. They learned everything they had to learn half a century ago. IMO this is just another PR stunt to hide the complete lack of any meaningfull progress in manned spaceflight.that was 40 years ago. None of the people are still involved. There was no actual manual written to provide instructions.Incorrect. There was a complete set of recovery procedures including back-up scenario's and emergency procedures. All written down and required reading for everyone involved in any form of water/land egress training. Also updated regularly. Updated so often in fact, in the lead up to Apollo 11, that some iterations never made it to all the folks involved. Which in turn led to a little-know procedural scr*w-up when the Apollo 11 crew was extracted from the Columbia CM.
Anyways, if the U.S. Navy was at near 100% utilization at relative peace-time, they would have 0 capacity to respond to any major conflict.
It wasn't widely advertised, but the test of Orion being recovered in a big Navy landing ship's internal dock was pretty much a failure. The command module had a much more violent response to ocean swells than the LCUs and LCACs normally docked in these ships. It was very difficult to keep it straight on its cradle as the dock was pumped out. Simple hoisting worked much better for Apollo and Dragon and will probably be adopted for Orion too.Note that this test was done in a flat calm, not normal open-sea conditions.