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« Reply #460 on: 12/07/2021 10:11 am »
China’s moon rover spots cube-shaped ‘mystery hut’ on lunar farside:



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NEWS : Mysterious cube-shaped anomaly discovered on the moon's far side by Chinese rover

The rover will spend the next 2-3 months verifying it

https://twitter.com/latestinspace/status/1467609634823454720
« Last Edit: 12/07/2021 10:13 am by Star One »

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Re: Chang'e-4 lunar operations
« Reply #461 on: 12/07/2021 02:24 pm »
please dont post this garbage here

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« Reply #462 on: 12/07/2021 06:06 pm »

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« Reply #463 on: 12/07/2021 08:31 pm »
It's not aliens:

https://www.leonarddavid.com/chinas-moon-rover-case-closed-on-mystery-house/

Dang. I was hoping for aliens.
Aliens would be awesome. However, I  require at least moderate photoshop skills, which this video even lacks  ;D

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« Reply #464 on: 12/08/2021 06:33 am »
please dont post this garbage here
Being as that’s what Chinese state media called it I find your comment baffling. Maybe try checking your facts first before jumping in with both feet.

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« Reply #465 on: 12/08/2021 04:09 pm »
The mods need to delete this whole pile of crap, and I'm confused about why they haven't yet.

Did you click on 'report to moderator'? The mods are very busy and need help, so it's up to us to report posts we think are inappropriate. If you do report posts, it's possible they don't agree with you and leave the posts as is.

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« Reply #466 on: 12/08/2021 05:06 pm »
Everybody can just settle down. This is only six posts, it's not a flame war. And you don't need to go complain to mommy and daddy (the mods) to delete things you don't like.

Let it burn out.

Everybody just needs to chill.

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« Reply #467 on: 12/08/2021 07:01 pm »
Everybody can just settle down. This is only six posts, it's not a flame war. And you don't need to go complain to mommy and daddy (the mods) to delete things you don't like.

Let it burn out.

Everybody just needs to chill.
Just to clarify when I was referring to what the Chinese state media reported it was purely their calling it a ‘mystery hut’. Which I would think is short hand for them saying whatever the object is it’s a hut shape, not that it’s a hut.

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« Reply #468 on: 12/08/2021 08:49 pm »
To clarify further - I have looked at a lot of Chinese media coverage on this topic - the original statement is a lighthearted comment about it looking like a hut.  It's the mass of popular websites who exaggerate it, basically turn it into clickbait.  The people who run the mission are no fools and the people covering the mission for Ourspace are the same, though writing for outreach purposes so they have to attract attention.  I might draw a comparison with a famous JPL press release image from 1976 or 1977, the infamous Cydonia face, which they themselves (in the Public Info Office) drew attention to as a bit of fun.  'Hey look, it's a face'.  It was others who turned it into a ludicrous hoax. 
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« Reply #469 on: 12/13/2021 10:59 pm »
If you look at map in China, you'll see what any natural feature is more or less named for what it looks like at distance. You sort of see in places other than China as well, normally around tourist sites. Have people in this post-modern age just have imagination and wonder completely knocked out of us? I don't anyone or any popular website or new media saying it is literally a hut or present it in any hoax way. If we found of those common "elephant" rocks due to erosion, say on Mars, shall we not just call it elephant rock in fear that people will actually believe there are alien elephants on Mars?
« Last Edit: 12/13/2021 11:05 pm by luhai167 »

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« Reply #471 on: 01/07/2022 07:12 pm »
It still continues to not be aliens.

I was hoping for aliens.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/07/science/moon-cube-china-rover.html

Moon Cube Mystery: Chinese Rover Finds It’s Just a Rock
A blurry image that China’s space program had called the “mystery hut” was a result of camera angle, light and shadow.
By Kenneth Chang
Jan. 7, 2022Updated 12:59 p.m. ET

Last November, China’s Yutu-2 lunar rover spotted something curious on the far side of the moon. The image was blurry, but it was unmistakable: The object looked like a cube sitting on the moon’s surface. Its shape looked too precise to be just a moon rock — perhaps something left by visiting aliens like the monolith in Arthur C. Clarke’s “2001: A Space Odyssey.”

China’s space authorities called it the “mystery hut.” Others called it the “moon cube.” Yutu-2 was sent for a closer look, and at the leisurely speed the rover is capable of traveling, it took weeks to get up close.

On Friday, Our Space, a Chinese language science channel affiliated with China National Space Administration, posted an update. There is no monolith, no secret base on the rim of a lunar crater. Close up, it turns out to be just a rock. The seemingly perfect geometric shape was just a trick of angle, light and shadow.




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« Reply #472 on: 01/08/2022 12:05 am »
The seemingly perfect geometric shape was also partly due to being only a few pixels across in the original image, so the pixels themselves contributed to the shape.  Take the original square pixels, enlarge drastically, mess around with contrast and sharpening and throw in a few compression artifacts - and there you are. 
« Last Edit: 01/08/2022 12:05 am by Phil Stooke »
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« Reply #473 on: 01/08/2022 12:50 pm »
I remain disappointed The Onion does not have a "Space Rock unexpectedly revealed on closer inspection to be rock" article ready to repost every time this happens.

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Re: Chang'e-4 lunar operations
« Reply #474 on: 01/10/2022 10:14 am »
Other than the most gullible did anyone seriously expect it to be anything other than a rock.

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« Reply #475 on: 01/10/2022 08:37 pm »
Other than the most gullible did anyone seriously expect it to be anything other than a rock.

No. But there appears to be a lot of gullible people. Possibly because the word 'gullible' does not appear in the dictionary! ;)

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« Reply #476 on: 01/11/2022 06:20 am »
Other than the most gullible did anyone seriously expect it to be anything other than a rock.

No. But there appears to be a lot of gullible people. Possibly because the word 'gullible' does not appear in the dictionary! ;)
It does with that spelling in the UK?

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« Reply #477 on: 01/11/2022 10:13 pm »
Other than the most gullible did anyone seriously expect it to be anything other than a rock.

No. But there appears to be a lot of gullible people. Possibly because the word 'gullible' does not appear in the dictionary! ;)
It does with that spelling in the UK?

It's a joke, based on the word's meaning! 🙂

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Re: Chang'e-4 lunar operations
« Reply #478 on: 01/23/2022 08:17 pm »
Tipped off by a post on Sohu.com, here is a link to a great open access paper on the first 2 years of Yutu 2's travels. Check out the supplementary information too, including an Excel file of every drive over 25 lunar days.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.abj6660
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Re: Chang'e-4 lunar operations
« Reply #479 on: 03/01/2022 02:54 pm »
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