Quote from: Welsh Dragon on 06/15/2018 07:31 amOnly on NSF would we get four pages of discussion over something that is clearly a joke. No jurisdiction would ever allow this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_car So this shouldnt exist ?
Only on NSF would we get four pages of discussion over something that is clearly a joke. No jurisdiction would ever allow this.
>I'll say it one more time: this options package is for the track, not the road.
Quote from: QuantumG on 06/16/2018 03:20 am>I'll say it one more time: this options package is for the track, not the road.Which would likely cause some rules committee to create an updated "Chaparral 2J* Rule."* Can-Am car which created massive downforce using two vacuum fans. Banned after one season.
Quote from: docmordrid on 06/16/2018 03:47 amQuote from: QuantumG on 06/16/2018 03:20 am>I'll say it one more time: this options package is for the track, not the road.Which would likely cause some rules committee to create an updated "Chaparral 2J* Rule."* Can-Am car which created massive downforce using two vacuum fans. Banned after one season.Who said anything about competitive racing?Are people really not aware how rich tech-bros spend their money? They buy fancy cars. They put them in garages. They tow them to the track. They drive around in circles. They tow them back to the garage. It's much like owning a horse - yes, some people race them, but most people just keep them so they can go riding.
Quote from: docmordrid on 06/16/2018 03:47 amQuote from: QuantumG on 06/16/2018 03:20 am>I'll say it one more time: this options package is for the track, not the road.Which would likely cause some rules committee to create an updated "Chaparral 2J* Rule."* Can-Am car which created massive downforce using two vacuum fans. Banned after one season.Who said anything about competitive racing?Are people really not aware how rich tech-bros spend their money? >
The idea that bursts of air coming out of nozzles around a car going at high speed is a safety concern is ridiculous. The air pressure will diffuse extremely quickly and nothing should be super close to a car at high speed anyway. Some performance cars blow fire out of their exhaust, they release pressure from blow off valves, have tanks of compressed nitrous oxide, they have giant wings, etc. We are talking about a car that can accelerate at over 1G and go 250+ mph and we are worried about puffs of air? Every KIA Soul has capabilities that would be dangerous to use on neighborhood roads, that doesn't make them illegal to use there.If you hate lavish sports cars that is fine, but compressed air thrusters are a really silly place to draw a line.
Quote from: intrepidpursuit on 06/17/2018 01:24 amThe idea that bursts of air coming out of nozzles around a car going at high speed is a safety concern is ridiculous. The air pressure will diffuse extremely quickly and nothing should be super close to a car at high speed anyway. Some performance cars blow fire out of their exhaust, they release pressure from blow off valves, have tanks of compressed nitrous oxide, they have giant wings, etc. We are talking about a car that can accelerate at over 1G and go 250+ mph and we are worried about puffs of air? Every KIA Soul has capabilities that would be dangerous to use on neighborhood roads, that doesn't make them illegal to use there.If you hate lavish sports cars that is fine, but compressed air thrusters are a really silly place to draw a line.You think the worry might be more about high pressure tanks?
Quote from: meekGee on 06/15/2018 01:33 pmIMO braking and cornering are the main benefits. Good braking means you can remain faster for longer before entering a turn. Cornering means you can stay faster while inside the turn.On public roads this is a huge safety feature. Braking or performing an aggrrssive avoidance maneuver on an icy road without losing traction? Handling an unexpected slippery patch in mid turn? Braking on a dime when a prdestrian pops into your lane?Those are life savers. I don't see why this would be disallowed, especially if auto-controlled like automatic stability control.The problem is that if the driver knows that the thrusters will save him on unexpected situations, he will start taking more risks. And then he takes two risks in short time frame and the system has not had time to recharge in between.The system should be such that if it activates on normal traffic, it automatically calls the police, gives the driver ticket for reckless driving, and allows continuing driving only after it has rechaged itself
IMO braking and cornering are the main benefits. Good braking means you can remain faster for longer before entering a turn. Cornering means you can stay faster while inside the turn.On public roads this is a huge safety feature. Braking or performing an aggrrssive avoidance maneuver on an icy road without losing traction? Handling an unexpected slippery patch in mid turn? Braking on a dime when a prdestrian pops into your lane?Those are life savers. I don't see why this would be disallowed, especially if auto-controlled like automatic stability control.
Quote from: Cologan on 06/15/2018 09:50 amQuote from: Welsh Dragon on 06/15/2018 07:31 amOnly on NSF would we get four pages of discussion over something that is clearly a joke. No jurisdiction would ever allow this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_car So this shouldnt exist ?Many jet cars on the public road around where you live?
Quote from: Welsh Dragon on 06/15/2018 05:10 pmQuote from: Cologan on 06/15/2018 09:50 amQuote from: Welsh Dragon on 06/15/2018 07:31 amOnly on NSF would we get four pages of discussion over something that is clearly a joke. No jurisdiction would ever allow this.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_car So this shouldnt exist ?Many jet cars on the public road around where you live?Please read my sentence directly below the quote EDIT: You can see enough crazy contraptions on tracks these days, is there any point in discussing whether or not it should be street legal ? as far as i remember this threads title is about the "Capability" of such system, lets focus on that.
No, not really. 99.9% of drivers never even get remotely close to the actual performance levels of their cars round corners (anyone can drive fast in a straight line).
Quote from: JamesH65 on 06/18/2018 11:41 amNo, not really. 99.9% of drivers never even get remotely close to the actual performance levels of their cars round corners (anyone can drive fast in a straight line). Please try to understand the difference between 75% and 99.9%. Your "99.9%" is actually about 75%.Also, there are things like ice and water on the real roads in the real world.