Author Topic: Current NSF Forum Feedback Thread 2 (Read 272878 times)

dglow · « **Reply #200 on:** 11/27/2018 06:06 pm »

Quote from: gongora on 11/26/2018 01:23 am

Quote from: dglow on 11/26/2018 12:59 am
It seems that when a thread is trimmed my current position in that thread (last read post) is pushed backwards, far into the territory of previously-read posts. Does anyone else experience this?

Yes. I think it has always worked that way. (I assume it gets confused because your database entry for that thread is pointing to a post that doesn't exist anymore.)

Understood, thank you. My request, then, is that this be fixed if possible. In the interest of that allow me to share the behavior I have witnessed.

Example: I catch up fully on an update thread, reading it through to the very end. After a day or two I return to said thread and find my position has regressed by many posts – well into territory I had previously read. Following the already-read material I see a post from Chris noting the trim and admonishing us all to post reactions and replies in the appropriate discussion thread.

The relevant bit is this: before returning I had not read any of the trimmed posts. The discussion went awry and the trim occurred following the time of my last visit.

Were I to guess, the 'read position' is tracked based upon post number, and trims simply reduce that count by the number of posts removed. Again, a guess.

If there's any interest in addressing this behavior, I would be happy to assist.

rocketguy101 · « **Reply #201 on:** 11/27/2018 09:41 pm »

OK I made a screenshot from my work computer showing what an update thread looks like when the Twitter domain is blocked...pretty bleak, yeah? In times past folks would post the twitter link and post a screen shot so we could see what was being discussed.

eeergo · « **Reply #202 on:** 11/28/2018 08:29 am »

Quote from: rocketguy101 on 11/27/2018 09:41 pm

OK I made a screenshot from my work computer showing what an update thread looks like when the Twitter domain is blocked...pretty bleak, yeah? In times past folks would post the twitter link and post a screen shot so we could see what was being discussed.

$:-\$

Quote from: Chris Bergin

Pretty good as it avoids the issue of copyright on photos as it only keeps the text and the link to what is (once deleted) a dead tweet. Imagine if someone tweeted a photo that was copyrighted or whatever...and someone here had attached it. That person would have to contact the site and request removal (or even try and sue us as someone here took their photo and attached it to our servers).

Also, the tweet's text remains no matter what, so the post isn't blank.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #203 on:** 11/28/2018 10:01 pm »

Quote from: rocketguy101 on 11/27/2018 09:41 pm

In times past folks would post the twitter link and post a screen shot so we could see what was being discussed.

To repeat:

Quote from: Chris Bergin on 11/22/2018 02:40 pm

What I'd say not liking Twitter is a case of not joining Twitter. Blocking Twitter is something I've not heard about before and it wouldn't hold relevance here as the content of tweets on here would be the same as if linked - as previous - with the only change being the post now shows the tweet as tweeted, rather than having to click the link and go through into Twitter.

Also, it avoids the massive problem of old where a tweet would be copied and pasted into a post, and the images attached.

1) 99 out of 100 times, it's not our content and it is a breach of copyright to reupload external content that way.

Though it's good it's not actually a blank post as intimated for what will be a handful of people (as searches show only Facebook is the one IT depts. tend to block, not Twitter.....it's almost unheard of), it shows the text and a link. It does not show the images as we are not the host of the images, twitter is. So the issue is with your work's IT blocking the origin of content (Twitter).

rocketguy101 · « **Reply #204 on:** 11/28/2018 10:32 pm »

Quote from: Chris Bergin on 11/28/2018 10:01 pm

Though it's good it's not actually a blank post as intimated for what will be a handful of people (as searches show only Facebook is the one IT depts. tend to block, not Twitter.....it's almost unheard of), it shows the text and a link. It does not show the images as we are not the host of the images, twitter is. So the issue is with your work's IT blocking the origin of content (Twitter).

Well for the record, our IT dept blocks YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, etc. I have had an occasional rocketry website flagged as being blocked (evidently "rocket" has some naughty connotations on the webs ?). I am frankly surprised I can access NSF at work.

If it's a case of copyright, I understand, but I liked the good old days when people posted their own content on this site, especially on an update thread. I am used to seeing blank boxes when users post YT videos, but a whole string of Twitter post with perhaps a text comment and url gets old. Guess I will just have to wait until I get home to see what all excitement on many threads is all about *sigh*

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #205 on:** 11/28/2018 10:46 pm »

Quote from: rocketguy101 on 11/28/2018 10:32 pm

Quote from: Chris Bergin on 11/28/2018 10:01 pm
Though it's good it's not actually a blank post as intimated for what will be a handful of people (as searches show only Facebook is the one IT depts. tend to block, not Twitter.....it's almost unheard of), it shows the text and a link. It does not show the images as we are not the host of the images, twitter is. So the issue is with your work's IT blocking the origin of content (Twitter).

Well for the record, our IT dept blocks YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, etc. I have had an occasional rocketry website flagged as being blocked (evidently "rocket" has some naughty connotations on the webs ?). I am frankly surprised I can access NSF at work.

If it's a case of copyright, I understand, but I liked the good old days when people posted their own content on this site, especially on an update thread. I am used to seeing blank boxes when users post YT videos, but a whole string of Twitter post with perhaps a text comment and url gets old. Guess I will just have to wait until I get home to see what all excitement on many threads is all about *sigh*

Yeah, they clearly don't want people using the internet for non-work related purposes at your place.

People do post their own content to the forum. All three examples you showed are external content, owned by the person tweeting it.

PS Don't use the work computer for NSF at work. Use your phone? Just thinking out loud.

jebbo · « **Reply #206 on:** 11/29/2018 06:02 am »

Should the "Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) and Mars 2020 Rover Section" section be renamed to something like "Mars Landers, Rovers and Orbital Missions"

The current section title seems over specific.

--- Tony

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #207 on:** 11/29/2018 07:05 pm »

Quote from: jebbo on 11/29/2018 06:02 am

Should the "Mars Science Laboratory (MSL) and Mars 2020 Rover Section" section be renamed to something like "Mars Landers, Rovers and Orbital Missions"

The current section title seems over specific.

--- Tony

Was just thinking about that!

I'll sort it out tonight.

A_M_Swallow · « **Reply #208 on:** 12/05/2018 11:56 am »

The 'Novatech Measurements Load Cells' advert does not show. I just get a blank box, but it does click through.
Ref: https://www.novatechloadcells.co.uk

I am using Firefox 63.0.3 (64 bit) on Windows 10 to view.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #209 on:** 12/05/2018 12:56 pm »

Quote from: A_M_Swallow on 12/05/2018 11:56 am

The 'Novatech Measurements Load Cells' advert does not show. I just get a blank box, but it does click through.
Ref: https://www.novatechloadcells.co.uk

I am using Firefox 63.0.3 (64 bit) on Windows 10 to view.

Thanks! We're adding new servers and that one didn't want to play. Fixed.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #210 on:** 12/29/2018 10:52 pm »

Please note we've upgraded the forum hosting architecture and any recent (since earlier today) changes should be noted here:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=46976.msg1894120#msg1894120

OxCartMark · « **Reply #211 on:** 12/30/2018 06:28 pm »

One post, two likes, no likes. How is this even possible?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #212 on:** 12/30/2018 06:31 pm »

Looks like that member had another post, which was part of a since moved thread into dead threads moderation where those two likes were gained. So the post count updated back to 1 but member kept the likes.

Might be a new thing where post likes are kept in the profile even if a post is taken out of the game, but that'd be fine by me especially if via a trim of a thread where that member did nothing wrong.

Notice two posts (not one) made per this:

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #213 on:** 01/15/2019 02:34 pm »

A few minutes of dodgy "SSL handshake failure" going on this hour, so some people may have got the 525 error. Mark sorted it, so was only for a few mins. All good now. A load-balancer at fault so will be investigated to avoid a repeat.

OxCartMark · « **Reply #214 on:** 01/15/2019 06:12 pm »

An odd inconsequential nothing here - look at how the names of the persons liking this post are put together without space between and how the comma is on the end, not between. Both come from the same post just refreshed.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #215 on:** 01/15/2019 06:37 pm »

Bit weird, but both usernames can be clicked on. I bet the space is missing as it was two long usernames together. I see other posts with more than one like where there's a space. I'd say no drama.

I liked it and Cowboy Dan's username seems to be messing it up, maybe due to a space in his username. No idea. Still no drama

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #216 on:** 02/11/2019 07:24 pm »

Sorry about that minute of downtime. We're working something with SSL. Back now.

DatUser14 · « **Reply #217 on:** 02/14/2019 05:13 pm »

Can one do spoiler tags here on NSF? I posted a comment with a really long quote here: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47431.msg1911453#msg1911453

testguy · « **Reply #218 on:** 02/20/2019 02:30 pm »

I have just completed a very long post and hit the post button. It did not post and disappeared. This has happened to me a few times in the past. Has anyone experienced the same problem and have any suggestions. It’s very frustrating!

Johnnyhinbos · « **Reply #219 on:** 02/20/2019 02:37 pm »

Sometimes it's cached - hit "Back" and see if it's there.

One warning - especially if you write long ones (that therefore take some amount of time to write), you hit "Post" and there's a warning that one or new posts have happened while you were writing your post and you therefore have to hit Post again or you will lose the post...