What Space Shuttle could this be??

[catdlr]

[laszlo]

I'm guessing Discovery for the following reasons:

1. The sign reading "A spaceship landed on Earth" indicating the film was after Columbia's flight
2. This is new construction
3. The OMS pod is being covered with FIB/FRSI insulation, not tiles

Since the OMS pod is being covered with something other than tiles during new construction, it can't be Columbia.
For the same reason, I don't think it's Challenger. Since it was built as a vibration test article, it wouldn't have had TPS being attached during construction. If I'm mistaken and the video actually shows the STA-099 to OV-099 conversion, then that dings my theory.

Discovery was in that stage of construction in late '81 and early '82. That was soon enough after Columbia's first flight that it would be reasonable to be displaying that sign about a spaceship from Rockwell landing on Earth. Challenger was at that stage before Columbia flew. Atlantis was over a year later and I don't think that the sign would be up there that long (but I could be wrong). Even more so for Atlantis.

If someone could make out the tile numbers that would clinch the ID.

[catdlr]

I'm guessing Discovery for the following reasons:

1. The sign reading "A spaceship landed on Earth" indicating the film was after Columbia's flight
2. This is new construction
3. The OMS pod is being covered with FIB/FRSI insulation, not tiles

Since the OMS pod is being covered with something other than tiles during new construction, it can't be Columbia.
For the same reason, I don't think it's Challenger. Since it was built as a vibration test article, it wouldn't have had TPS being attached during construction. If I'm mistaken and the video actually shows the STA-099 to OV-099 conversion, then that dings my theory.

Discovery was in that stage of construction in late '81 and early '82. That was soon enough after Columbia's first flight that it would be reasonable to be displaying that sign about a spaceship from Rockwell landing on Earth. Challenger was at that stage before Columbia flew. Atlantis was over a year later and I don't think that the sign would be up there that long (but I could be wrong). Even more so for Atlantis.

If someone could make out the tile numbers that would clinch the ID.

Indeed, the tile numbers would clinch it, but I wasn't able to zoom in clearly with this 480P video.

[Naito]

This could be fun. Hope someone will know the actual answer tho.

I too don't think this is Challenger.  I don't think Challenger ever got deconstructed to the point where they removed the wings and reattached them during her upgrade.

Timeline-wise it has to be either Discovery or Atlantis?

One thing that stands out to me is the black tiles on what look like the OMS pods.  The black tiles on the front of the OMS pods were added later, none of the original orbiters came with them IIRC until they needed to reinforce there for both heat and ice-breakoff protection I think?

Looking at https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Space-Shuttle-External-Markings.pdf it looks like only Atlantis came with the black tiles on one of the OMS pods......but that looks like the wrong side in this video?  Only Endeavour came with the black OMS pods from the factory.

Based on the age of the video.....I'd have guessed Atlantis.....but it's possible this is Endeavour??

[catdlr]

This could be fun. Hope someone will know the actual answer tho.

I too don't think this is Challenger.  I don't think Challenger ever got deconstructed to the point where they removed the wings and reattached them during her upgrade.

Timeline-wise it has to be either Discovery or Atlantis?

One thing that stands out to me is the black tiles on what look like the OMS pods.  The black tiles on the front of the OMS pods were added later, none of the original orbiters came with them IIRC until they needed to reinforce there for both heat and ice-breakoff protection I think?

Looking at https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Space-Shuttle-External-Markings.pdf it looks like only Atlantis came with the black tiles on one of the OMS pods......but that looks like the wrong side in this video?  Only Endeavour came with the black OMS pods from the factory.

Based on the age of the video.....I'd have guessed Atlantis.....but it's possible this is Endeavour??

Thanks Naito,
Didn't Endeavour come after Columbia, and video resolution was HD then? 

So far, the responses are either Discovery or Atlantis.

[DaveS]

This could be fun. Hope someone will know the actual answer tho.

I too don't think this is Challenger.  I don't think Challenger ever got deconstructed to the point where they removed the wings and reattached them during her upgrade.

Timeline-wise it has to be either Discovery or Atlantis?

One thing that stands out to me is the black tiles on what look like the OMS pods.  The black tiles on the front of the OMS pods were added later, none of the original orbiters came with them IIRC until they needed to reinforce there for both heat and ice-breakoff protection I think?

Looking at https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Space-Shuttle-External-Markings.pdf it looks like only Atlantis came with the black tiles on one of the OMS pods......but that looks like the wrong side in this video?  Only Endeavour came with the black OMS pods from the factory.

Based on the age of the video.....I'd have guessed Atlantis.....but it's possible this is Endeavour??

Thanks Naito,
Didn't Endeavour come after Columbia, and video resolution was HD then? 

So far, the responses are either Discovery or Atlantis.

Endeavour was assembled from "spare parts" manufactured as part of the OV-103/OV-104 contract. In reality in was a backdoor attempt by NASA to force the WH/Congress's hands into letting them be assembled into a fifth orbiter. But this only happened after Challenger and OV-105 final assembly began on Feb. 29 1988. All orbiters were assembled concurrently and sequentially, so 101 and 102, 102 and 099, 099 and 103 and 104. OV-105 was assembled by itself, no other orbiter at Palmdale at the time.

Also, HD was only thing starting in the late 90's. Quality of video depends on if the source is VHS or actual film with VHS being the worst.

[Naito]

This could be fun. Hope someone will know the actual answer tho.

I too don't think this is Challenger.  I don't think Challenger ever got deconstructed to the point where they removed the wings and reattached them during her upgrade.

Timeline-wise it has to be either Discovery or Atlantis?

One thing that stands out to me is the black tiles on what look like the OMS pods.  The black tiles on the front of the OMS pods were added later, none of the original orbiters came with them IIRC until they needed to reinforce there for both heat and ice-breakoff protection I think?

Looking at https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Space-Shuttle-External-Markings.pdf it looks like only Atlantis came with the black tiles on one of the OMS pods......but that looks like the wrong side in this video?  Only Endeavour came with the black OMS pods from the factory.

Based on the age of the video.....I'd have guessed Atlantis.....but it's possible this is Endeavour??

Thanks Naito,
Didn't Endeavour come after Columbia, and video resolution was HD then? 

So far, the responses are either Discovery or Atlantis.

Endeavour came after Challenger, completed in like '91 '92? so still very very not HD =D so I'm actually leaning towards Endeavour now.

[catdlr]

This could be fun. Hope someone will know the actual answer tho.

I too don't think this is Challenger.  I don't think Challenger ever got deconstructed to the point where they removed the wings and reattached them during her upgrade.

Timeline-wise it has to be either Discovery or Atlantis?

One thing that stands out to me is the black tiles on what look like the OMS pods.  The black tiles on the front of the OMS pods were added later, none of the original orbiters came with them IIRC until they needed to reinforce there for both heat and ice-breakoff protection I think?

Looking at https://axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Space-Shuttle-External-Markings.pdf it looks like only Atlantis came with the black tiles on one of the OMS pods......but that looks like the wrong side in this video?  Only Endeavour came with the black OMS pods from the factory.

Based on the age of the video.....I'd have guessed Atlantis.....but it's possible this is Endeavour??

Thanks Naito,
Didn't Endeavour come after Columbia, and video resolution was HD then? 

So far, the responses are either Discovery or Atlantis.

Also, HD was only thing starting in the late 90's. Quality of video depends on if the source is VHS or actual film with VHS being the worst.

And that's what I meant, the source of the video.  Thanks.