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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #20 on: 02/13/2013 07:39 am »
A Bing translation gave

"Fazeli was a reminder: Fajr satellite after launch at an altitude of 250 kilometers is from their isolated and carrier to help the transfer process-orientation in the orbital hziyz (closest distance from the Earth) to 404 km."

"Fazeli noted: this satellite is equipped with an imaging camera called the cargo subsidiary that its breakdown strength is 500 meters as well."

This might mean that the initial orbit is 250 km high, but the satellite will transfer to a 404 km altitude. The satellite ground resolution might be 500 m.
« Last Edit: 02/13/2013 07:39 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #21 on: 02/14/2013 06:23 am »
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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #22 on: 02/15/2013 10:52 am »
Video about Fajr satellite http://www.sorayatv.ir/content/clip/26/

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #23 on: 02/15/2013 12:40 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #24 on: 02/15/2013 01:00 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


How recently?

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #25 on: 02/15/2013 03:42 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


How recently?
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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #26 on: 02/15/2013 07:20 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


I have the same feeling too. But I have a question:
Your first paragraph shows that you are not sure about a failed launch but, Your second paragraph shows you are completely sure about the failure but are not allowed to show photographic evidence.

Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #27 on: 02/15/2013 08:07 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


I have the same feeling too. But I have a question:


But, hossein, are you talking about a failed launch in the last two weeks?

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #28 on: 02/15/2013 08:38 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


I have the same feeling too. But I have a question:


But, hossein, are you talking about a failed launch in the last two weeks?

I'm not saying a failed launch. I'm just guessing, because nearly ever time a launch was postponed we found out later (either through Janes or other means) that the launch had failed or the goals were not reached. The Fajr satellite was supposed to be launched in the last two weeks. We haven't received any news that it has, so I am just guessing that it might have failed. Of course it might have been postponed because of technical reasons.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #29 on: 02/15/2013 09:17 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #30 on: 02/15/2013 09:46 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.
:o  ??? I was hoping you were wrong but it seems you have access to classified info.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #31 on: 02/15/2013 11:11 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.
:o  ??? I was hoping you were wrong but it seems you have access to classified info.
If it was classified we would not be talking about it here until it was officially declared declassified by all contributing and/or involved parties. As for myself I do not hold the proper level of authority to continue discussing this topic at this time.
« Last Edit: 02/15/2013 11:15 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #32 on: 02/16/2013 01:35 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

Sorry, but I do not think it was crystal clear at least until we have hard evidence that there was a launch (either through Janes or other source). Until that, it is only speculation. If you say that something will show up published in the next days, then its better to wait instead of talking about 'crystal clear'.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #33 on: 02/16/2013 02:14 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

Sorry, but I do not think it was crystal clear at least until we have hard evidence that there was a launch (either through Janes or other source). Until that, it is only speculation. If you say that something will show up published in the next days, then its better to wait instead of talking about 'crystal clear'.

"Crystal clear" was used to explain "hoseyn" who asked me if I was just speculated or based on knowladge.

As for evidence - wait and see (Just remember that I wrote on the first failed launch of 2012 long before Jane's published its satellite photographs).

I agree that it could be frastraiting to wait until the media/Google Earth provides some photographic evidence. I know that I am....
« Last Edit: 02/16/2013 02:29 pm by Comet »

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #34 on: 02/16/2013 04:49 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

Sorry, but I do not think it was crystal clear at least until we have hard evidence that there was a launch (either through Janes or other source). Until that, it is only speculation. If you say that something will show up published in the next days, then its better to wait instead of talking about 'crystal clear'.

"Crystal clear" was used to explain "hoseyn" who asked me if I was just speculated or based on knowladge.

As for evidence - wait and see (Just remember that I wrote on the first failed launch of 2012 long before Jane's published its satellite photographs).

I agree that it could be frastraiting to wait until the media/Google Earth provides some photographic evidence. I know that I am....

If its exploded in mid-air, we never get a confirmation.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #35 on: 02/16/2013 05:39 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

Sorry, but I do not think it was crystal clear at least until we have hard evidence that there was a launch (either through Janes or other source). Until that, it is only speculation. If you say that something will show up published in the next days, then its better to wait instead of talking about 'crystal clear'.

"Crystal clear" was used to explain "hoseyn" who asked me if I was just speculated or based on knowladge.

As for evidence - wait and see (Just remember that I wrote on the first failed launch of 2012 long before Jane's published its satellite photographs).

I agree that it could be frastraiting to wait until the media/Google Earth provides some photographic evidence. I know that I am....

If its exploded in mid-air, we never get a confirmation.


With all due respect, this is not necessarily true. For example, the OFFICIAL US data on failed North Korean launches - specifically those in which the missile disintegrates in mid air.

So, there are cases that you will get the data officially, even if you can not see traces on the ground.
« Last Edit: 02/16/2013 10:10 pm by Comet »

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #36 on: 02/16/2013 11:06 pm »
I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.




Can you tell us which one it is: You are merely making an assumption about a failed launch or you are completely sure there was a failed launch?


I was crystal clear: There WAS a launch (on February) that failed. And, I belive that a photographic evidence will be comming up soon.

Sorry, but I do not think it was crystal clear at least until we have hard evidence that there was a launch (either through Janes or other source). Until that, it is only speculation. If you say that something will show up published in the next days, then its better to wait instead of talking about 'crystal clear'.

"Crystal clear" was used to explain "hoseyn" who asked me if I was just speculated or based on knowladge.

As for evidence - wait and see (Just remember that I wrote on the first failed launch of 2012 long before Jane's published its satellite photographs).

I agree that it could be frastraiting to wait until the media/Google Earth provides some photographic evidence. I know that I am....

If its exploded in mid-air, we never get a confirmation.

Even if it had exploded in mid-air, it would have left scorch marks on the pad at lift off.

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - February 2013
« Reply #37 on: 02/19/2013 09:42 pm »
Well, I'm starting to agree with you in this one. Iran simply is not talking about Fajr anymore and we should have seen a launch by now....

I believe that in the near future we will see evidence of yet another FAILED Safir SLV launch, that occurred recently. This will be the Third failure in a row for the SLV.

As for now, I can not provide photographic or other evidence, sorry.


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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - TBD 2013 (?)
« Reply #38 on: 02/27/2013 03:03 pm »
The Times Of Israel: For third time in 2 years, ‘Iran fails to launch satellite’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-third-time-in-2-years-iran-fails-to-launch-satellite/

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Re: Fajr Safir-1B launch - TBD 2013 (?)
« Reply #39 on: 02/27/2013 03:48 pm »
The Times Of Israel: For third time in 2 years, ‘Iran fails to launch satellite’

http://www.timesofisrael.com/for-third-time-in-2-years-iran-fails-to-launch-satellite/

Is there any other reference to this failure apart from Times of Israel?

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