Shijian 6 Group 05 - Long March 4B - Jiuquan - Dec 10, 2021 (00:11 UTC)

[zubenelgenubi]

Both Haisi-2 and Yangwang-1 launched on the CZ-2D from Taiyuan on June 11.  Previously, there were some indications that both satellites would launch on a CZ-2D from Jiuquan on June 20.

Is this launch happening?  And, if so, what is/are the payload(s)?

[Galactic Penguin SST]

I’m reusing this thread for a launch out of Jiuquan NET December 6, 23:00 UTC, which has a drop zone in the Bay of Bengal:

A0210/21 NOTAMN
Q) VYYF/QWMLW/IV/NBO/W/000/999/2044N09531E010
A) VYYF B) 2112062300 C) 2112120200
D) 2300-0200
E) OWING TO CHINA AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITIES:DUE TO AEROSPACE
FLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN FOLLOWING
AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED
ON DEC 06-12 2021 DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON DEC 06-12,2021 FROM 2300UTC -0200UTC(DLY)
AREA:N170502E0934529-N171207E0931225-N182331E0932859-
    N181626E0940213
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SF-UNL.
NO OVF ACTTIVITY IS PERMISSIBLE WITHIN ABV MENTIONED ARE DURING
HOURS OF SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES(CHINA) THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTES ARE
REROUTED/NOT AVBL IN YANGON FIR
1)P646-NOT AVBL BTN PTN VOR AND IBITA(BIDIRECTIONAL)
2)N895/G472-NOT AVBL BTN PTN VOR AND SAGOD(BIDIRECTIONAL)
F) GND G) UNL
CREATED: 09 Nov 2021 17:12:00
SOURCE: VYYYYNYX

[russianhalo117]

GF-3-03 is the only remaining known CZ-4C left in 2021 per the NSF Chinese Launch Schedule.

[Liss]

The restricted area is almost the same as on Nov 24 so I think that's another KZ-1A of the seven scheduled before March 2022.

[mikezang]

The restricted area is almost the same as on Nov 24 so I think that's another KZ-1A of the seven scheduled before March 2022.

I also think it will be Kuaizhou-1A Y16.

[Vahe231991]

The restricted area is almost the same as on Nov 24 so I think that's another KZ-1A of the seven scheduled before March 2022.

I also think it will be Kuaizhou-1A Y16.

How can you be certain that this launch might be carried out by a Kuaizhou-1A rather than a Kuaizhou-11, even though the Kuaizhou-11 operates from the launch site as the Kuaizhou-1A?

[mikezang]

The restricted area is almost the same as on Nov 24 so I think that's another KZ-1A of the seven scheduled before March 2022.

I also think it will be Kuaizhou-1A Y16.

How can you be certain that this launch might be carried out by a Kuaizhou-1A rather than a Kuaizhou-11, even though the Kuaizhou-11 operates from the launch site as the Kuaizhou-1A?

Kuaizhou-11 is delayed to next year.

[tiancai1412]

It might be the ceres-1. The two kuaizhou-1A rockets only left the factory at 1123/25

[mikezang]

It is said the time is about December 06, 2021 23:10 UTC.

[mikezang]

Base on this article 两枚快舟一号甲运载火箭出发运往酒泉 将择机进行发射, Kuaizhou-1A is moved to Jǐuquán this month, it is impossible to be launched in such short time.
I think this launch might be Gǔshénxīing-1（谷神星一号=Ceres-1） with Jīnzījīng-1 03（金紫荆一号03星）.

[russianhalo117]

Base on this article 两枚快舟一号甲运载火箭出发运往酒泉 将择机进行发射, Kuaizhou-1 is moved to Jǐuquán this month, it is impossible to be launched in such short time.
I think this launch might be Gǔshénxīing-1（谷神星一号=Ceres-1） with Jīnzījīng-1 03（金紫荆一号03星）.

You have to be more specific as there is both a Kuaizhou-1 version and a Kuaizhou-1A version still available to customers.

[mikezang]

Base on this article 两枚快舟一号甲运载火箭出发运往酒泉 将择机进行发射, Kuaizhou-1 is moved to Jǐuquán this month, it is impossible to be launched in such short time.
I think this launch might be Gǔshénxīing-1（谷神星一号=Ceres-1） with Jīnzījīng-1 03（金紫荆一号03星）.

You have to be more specific as there is both a Kuaizhou-1 version and a Kuaizhou-1A version still available to customers.

Sorry for the mistake.

[Satori]

Base on this article 两枚快舟一号甲运载火箭出发运往酒泉 将择机进行发射, Kuaizhou-1 is moved to Jǐuquán this month, it is impossible to be launched in such short time.
I think this launch might be Gǔshénxīing-1（谷神星一号=Ceres-1） with Jīnzījīng-1 03（金紫荆一号03星）.

You have to be more specific as there is both a Kuaizhou-1 version and a Kuaizhou-1A version still available to customers.

Sorry for the mistake.

Thank you for all information you have been providing in this times that is very difficult to get information abiut the Chinese launches.

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Base on this article 两枚快舟一号甲运载火箭出发运往酒泉 将择机进行发射, Kuaizhou-1A is moved to Jǐuquán this month, it is impossible to be launched in such short time.
I think this launch might be Gǔshénxīing-1（谷神星一号=Ceres-1） with Jīnzījīng-1 03（金紫荆一号03星）.

The problem is if they have another rocket already on site.

BTW expected air space closure zones within Chinese territory have yet to appear.

[Satori]

BTW expected air space closure zones within Chinese territory have yet to appear.

Nothing yet?

[Galactic Penguin SST]

BTW expected air space closure zones within Chinese territory have yet to appear.

Nothing yet?

Still nothing, I guess it won’t launch on first day of window.

[Galactic Penguin SST]

A3095/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3532N09817E012
A) ZLHW B) 2112100003 C) 2112100027
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N352013E0982006-N352306E0980723-N354359E0981431-N354102E0982718
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL

A3096/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3309N09729E021
A) ZLHW B) 2112100004 C) 2112100033
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N324749E0973412-N325252E0971232-N332924E0972425-N332422E0974612
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL

The positioning of these 2 zones, plus the one above, seems to rule out this launch being a solid rocket motor based one (those have 1st stage drop zones much closer to JSLC at around 39 degree N latitude). 2 zones would point more towards a CZ-4 series I guess?

[mikezang]

A3095/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3532N09817E012
A) ZLHW B) 2112100003 C) 2112100027
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N352013E0982006-N352306E0980723-N354359E0981431-N354102E0982718
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL

A3096/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZLHW/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3309N09729E021
A) ZLHW B) 2112100004 C) 2112100033
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N324749E0973412-N325252E0971232-N332924E0972425-N332422E0974612
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA.
VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL

The positioning of these 2 zones, plus the one above, seems to rule out this launch being a solid rocket motor based one (those have 1st stage drop zones much closer to JSLC at around 39 degree N latitude). 2 zones would point more towards a CZ-4 series I guess?

It might be CZ-2C with YZ-1S if it is Dec 10.

[Liss]

A0210 has been reannounced:

A0238/21 NOTAMR A0210/21
Q) VYYF/QWMLW/IV/NBO/W/000/999/2044N09531E010
A) VYYF B) 2112100005 C) 2112100034
D) 0005-0034
E) OWING TO CHINA AEROSPACE FLIGHT ACTIVITIES:DUE TO AEROSPACE
FLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN FOLLOWING
AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON DEC 10 2021 DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
AREA:N170502E0934529-N171207E0931225-N182331E0932859-
     N181626E0940213
FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.VERTICAL ALTITUDE:SFC-UNL.
NO OVF ACTTIVITY IS PERMISSIBLE WITHIN ABV MENTIONED AREA,DURING
HOURS OF SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES(CHINA) THE FOLLOWING ATS ROUTES ARE
REROUTED/NOT AVBL IN YANGON FIR
1)P646-NOT AVBL BTN PTN VOR AND IBITA(BIDIRECTIONAL)
2)N895/G472-NOT AVBL BTN PTN VOR AND SAGOD(BIDIRECTIONAL)
F) GND G) UNL
CREATED: 07 Dec 2021 06:14:00
SOURCE: VYYYYNYX

[mikezang]

It is said payload is Huawei's 6G satellite Tiansuan Xingzuo-1 x 6 (天算星座一期的6颗卫星).
全球首颗云原生卫星诞生，华为云“云边一体”方案首次在太空验证
Translated from Google.

The world's first cloud-native satellite was born. On December 10, the test satellite equipped with the "Sky Computing Constellation" computing platform ran stably in orbit, and the HUAWEI CLOUD "Cloud Edge Integrated" solution was verified in space for the first time. This means that satellites will be able to simultaneously call edge and central cloud resources in space and possess AI capabilities and multi-task processing capabilities, which can maximize efficiency and response speed and help satellites enter the era of smart phones.

After successful verification, HUAWEI CLOUD’s “Cloud Edge Integrated” solution will be deployed in batches in the six satellites of the first phase of the “Sky Computing Constellation” to form a collaborative computing network in space. It is expected to better serve emergency communications, ecological monitoring, and monitoring in the future. Disaster prevention and mitigation and urban construction, etc.

[Liss]

It is said payload is Huawei's 6G satellite Tiansuan Xingzuo-1 x 6 (天算星座一期的6颗卫星).
全球首颗云原生卫星诞生，华为云“云边一体”方案首次在太空验证

I think the article is about Baoyun launched on Dec 7.
Search for the first phrase yields https://www.chinanews.com.cn/gn/2021/11-01/9599693.shtml with six spacecraft to be launched in 2022 and 2023 -- obviously not the same thing.

[jebbo]

This from the Ceres-1 launch thread is interesting, suggesting it launched something to do with the Huawei constellation:

刚发射的这颗小卫星，将开展多项全球首次在轨试验验证
Translated by Google

[snip]
Among them, the satellite intelligent service and computing platform load will carry out preliminary test verification for the computing and communication software platform in the "Sky Computing Constellation". It will be jointly developed by Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications, Huawei Cloud, China Mobile Research Institute, and Peking University, and will be carried out in orbit. On-board deployment of soft base stations and core network software, on-board deployment of next-generation core network software based on cognitive service architecture, on-board deployment of smart base based on KubeEdge+Sedna edge computing, on-board deployment of UPF software modules, and DOIP protocol star for digital networking On-orbit tests such as load verification will lay the technical foundation for building an on-orbit open and open source test platform for aerospace computing, and provide technical support for China’s construction of intelligent comprehensive digital infrastructure and next-generation core networks.

I'm watching this with interest as I specify the Arm architecture for all of HiSilicon's cloud processors.

--- Tony

[input~2]

A3127/21 - FLW SEGMENT OF ATS RTE CLSD:
1.Y1:MEPEP-N350737E1000535.
2.L888:MUMAN-LUVAR. 10 DEC 00:00 2021 UNTIL 10 DEC 00:35 2021. CREATED: 09 DEC
15:32 2021

[mikezang]

长征四号乙火箭成功发射实践六号05组卫星

[Bubbinski]

长征四号乙火箭成功发射实践六号05组卫星

English translation from Apple:

Long March 4B successfully launched Group VI 05 satellites

[Josh_from_Canada]

Long March 4B successfully launched Group VI 05 satellites

Shijian-6 05, it's been a while since Group 04 was sent up in 2010.

[Galactic Penguin SST]

T-0 was 00:11 UTC.

[Galactic Penguin SST]

https://twitter.com/cosmic_penguin/status/1469113025172885506?s=21

[mikezang]

I am not sure why it is named Shjijian 6 Group 05, the world's first cloud-native satellite of Huawei is included in them.
全球首颗云原生卫星在深圳诞生

December 10, 2021 12:13 Shenzhen Government Online
　　Original title: The world's first cloud-native satellite was born in Shenzhen

　　The world's first cloud-native satellite was born. The reporter learned yesterday that the test satellite equipped with the "Sky Computing Constellation" computing platform was operating stably in orbit, and the Huawei Cloud "Cloud Edge Integrated" solution was verified in space for the first time. This means that satellites can simultaneously call edge and central cloud resources in space and have AI capabilities and multi-task processing capabilities to maximize efficiency and response speed.

[Skyrocket]

I am not sure why it is named Shjijian 6 Group 05, the world's first cloud-native satellite of Huawei is included in them.
全球首颗云原生卫星在深圳诞生

December 10, 2021 12:13 Shenzhen Government Online
　　Original title: The world's first cloud-native satellite was born in Shenzhen

　　The world's first cloud-native satellite was born. The reporter learned yesterday that the test satellite equipped with the "Sky Computing Constellation" computing platform was operating stably in orbit, and the Huawei Cloud "Cloud Edge Integrated" solution was verified in space for the first time. This means that satellites can simultaneously call edge and central cloud resources in space and have AI capabilities and multi-task processing capabilities to maximize efficiency and response speed.

I think this refers to one of the satellites on the recent Ceres-1 (Gushenxing-1) rocket launch, not to this launch.

[input~2]

Short launch videos:
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/12/10/VIDEW87OmxcGNVihD0DeFSyZ211210.shtml
https://tv.cctv.com/2021/12/10/VIDEaAafQVtvpfCiJCIAUqTX211210.shtml

[input~2]

Shijian-6 Group 05 satellites are mainly used to carry out space environment detection and new technology test verification

[Satori]

Was there any indication that this was the last Chang Zheng launch from Jiuquan in 2021?

[Liss]

Well, orbits for objects 49962 and 49963 appeared, and the orbit is 457x470 km.
So this is not the same thing as the previous SJ-6 spacecraft.

[input~2]

2021-122A/49961 in 454 x 469 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5A)
2021-122B/49962 in 457 x 470 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5B)
2021-122C/49963 in 457 x 471 km x 97.36° (tbd)
2021-122D/49964 in 289 x 464 km x 97.27° (CZ-4B upper stage)
2021-122E/49965 in 421 x 439 km x 97.44° (tbd)

[mikezang]

2021-122A/49961 in 454 x 469 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5A)
2021-122B/49962 in 457 x 470 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5B)
2021-122C/49963 in 457 x 471 km x 97.36° (tbd)
2021-122D/49964 in 289 x 464 km x 97.27° (CZ-4B upper stage)
2021-122E/49965 in 421 x 439 km x 97.44° (tbd)

Those two TBD might be Huawei’s Sats？

[input~2]

The rocket and satellites for this mission were all developed by the Eighth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.

http://kjt.ah.gov.cn/kjzx/kjyw/120718251.html

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Was there any indication that this was the last Chang Zheng launch from Jiuquan in 2021?

None of the sources I have seen mention this.

[Steven Pietrobon]

Launch video.

[otter]

China's Long March carrier rocket embarks on 400th mission

http://www.news.cn/english/2021-12/10/c_1310364293.htm
http://english.sina.com/china/o/2021-12-10/detail-ikyamrmy8118684.shtml

[Liss]

The rocket and satellites for this mission were all developed by the Eighth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation.

http://kjt.ah.gov.cn/kjzx/kjyw/120718251.html

Seems to be incorrect as http://www.spacechina.com/n25/n2014789/n2014804/c3405007/content.html says:

执行本次任务的火箭由中国航天科技集团有限公司八院研制，本次成功发射的实践六号05组A星、B星分别由八院、五院抓总研制。
The rocket for this mission was developed by the Eighth Academy of China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation. The successfully launched A and B stars of Practice 6 Group 05 were developed by the Eighth Academy and the Fifth Academy respectively.

[Liss]

2021-122A/49961 in 454 x 469 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5A)
2021-122B/49962 in 457 x 470 km x 97.36° (SJ-6 5B)
2021-122C/49963 in 457 x 471 km x 97.36° (tbd)
2021-122D/49964 in 289 x 464 km x 97.27° (CZ-4B upper stage)
2021-122E/49965 in 421 x 439 km x 97.44° (tbd)

Those two TBD might be Huawei’s Sats？

E is a fast decaying object. Very fast for its initial orbit.
C is probably an adapter separating A and B during rocket flight.
There is no Huawei stars in this launch. One was launched Dec 7, named Baoyun; the six you've mentioned were not planned to launch before 2022.

[Alter Sachse]

The orbit is lower than for the previous SJ 6 satellites.
The launch was referred to as "Group 5". There can be more than 2 satellites.

[GELORD]

Mission code "01-141".

[Liss]

08:11:30 was probably the planned launch time.

[input~2]

Mission code "01-141".

With my own listing of mission codes, I  find "01-141" for this launch if I count the Chinese Space Plane test of July 16, 2021 from Jiuquan as orbital with mission code "01-133"

[Liss]

Well, the two are now 1.7° from each other after the series of maneuvers of both spacecraft.