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Updates and discussion thread for SpaceX launch of Cygnus NG-20 mission to the ISS.

Separate Cygnus NG-20 (post-launch) mission thread is: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60302.0



Launch 30 January 2024, at 17:07 UTC (12:07 pm EST), from SLC-40.  First stage B1077-10 B1072-1 successfully landed at LZ-1.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : NET Nov. 2023
« Reply #1 on: 03/27/2023 10:51 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : NET Nov. 2023
« Reply #2 on: 03/28/2023 02:52 pm »
It's pretty incredible the launches that SpaceX has been able to pick up by having capacity available.

I can't wait till they have legitimate competition and see where the pricing and market flexibility goes.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : NET Nov. 2023
« Reply #3 on: 03/29/2023 05:02 pm »
Just updated a few booster assignments on nextspaceflight...
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B1072 (F9):
- Cygnus NG-20 (NET July)
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : 2023
« Reply #4 on: 04/02/2023 11:52 am »
Slipped to November per
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/ [1 April update]

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Nov. 2023
« Reply #5 on: 05/06/2023 11:07 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #6 on: 06/22/2023 03:33 pm »
B1072.2 or above?  1072 will launch Crew-7 this August.

Or, another 10xx.5 or less first stage?  There are B1081, B1082, and B1083 in the pipeline.
Konstantin Borisov said in an instagram post several weeks ago that a new booster is being used for the mission and that they saw it in Hangar X, from my understanding the only F9 core there that has yet to fly is B1072

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr0YVeCKbaj/
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Also, if SLC-40 upgrades are complete, could this launch from SLC-40 as well as LC-39A?
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #7 on: 06/22/2023 04:07 pm »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #8 on: 06/22/2023 07:42 pm »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #9 on: 06/22/2023 08:11 pm »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.

It has : https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/features/northrop-grummans-antares-team-demonstrates-new-capability-to-load-cargo-just-before-launch

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Operators maneuver the mobile payload processing facility over the front of the Antares fairing and seal the opening to provide a clean-room environment. The Antares fairing pop-top is then removed, providing access to Cygnus for loading cargo just 24 hours before launch.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #10 on: 06/22/2023 08:22 pm »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.

It has : https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/features/northrop-grummans-antares-team-demonstrates-new-capability-to-load-cargo-just-before-launch

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Operators maneuver the mobile payload processing facility over the front of the Antares fairing and seal the opening to provide a clean-room environment. The Antares fairing pop-top is then removed, providing access to Cygnus for loading cargo just 24 hours before launch.

Ah then it depends on whether SpaceX can develop a fairing with a door in time
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #11 on: 06/22/2023 08:33 pm »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.

It has : https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/features/northrop-grummans-antares-team-demonstrates-new-capability-to-load-cargo-just-before-launch

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Operators maneuver the mobile payload processing facility over the front of the Antares fairing and seal the opening to provide a clean-room environment. The Antares fairing pop-top is then removed, providing access to Cygnus for loading cargo just 24 hours before launch.
Think the Cygnus is going inside a Falcon payload fairing not the Antares payload fairing. So no late cargo loading unless there is a Falcon fairing access hatch that provides access to the Cygnus docking port.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #12 on: 06/23/2023 04:31 am »
Re: access hatch through Falcon 9 fairing to allow Cygnus late load:
SpaceX has had since the launch contract was inked last August to design and fabricate, IF they are being PAID to do so.

August 2022 to November 2023 is a long time in SpaceX time.

Someone should ask.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #13 on: 06/23/2023 08:35 am »
I don't think it was ever an option with Cygnus on Antares or Atlas?

The only hatch is at the top when on the pad, so you'd need a big hole right near the top of the fairing, at the point of maximum pressure and too high to line up with the access arm.

The chance of NG and SpaceX bothering for these three launches seems about zero to me. Is there any reason to think they might?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #14 on: 06/24/2023 01:17 pm »
I don't think it was ever an option with Cygnus on Antares or Atlas?

The only hatch is at the top when on the pad, so you'd need a big hole right near the top of the fairing, at the point of maximum pressure and too high to line up with the access arm.

The chance of NG and SpaceX bothering for these three launches seems about zero to me. Is there any reason to think they might?

As noted in the link provided by Bean Kenobi just a few posts up, Cygnus has had a late load capability on Antares ever since the NG-11 mission. NG has been performing late loads on Antares/Cygnus on each mission since then.

Late loading on Cygnus was not performed on the Atlas/Cygnus missions.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : December 2023
« Reply #15 on: 07/26/2023 01:42 am »
Today's Crew-7 press briefing:
NG-20 will be the first human spaceflight support launch from Canaveral SLC-40, launch December 2023.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : December 2023
« Reply #16 on: 07/26/2023 02:22 pm »
What's "human spaceflight support launch" supposed to mean?  ??? There were many Cargo Dragon missions from SLC-40 for CRS-1.

If it means use of the access arm then those suggesting late-load capability must be right, although I still don't see how it's practical with the F9 fairing.

re. above posts, sorry, I did completely miss that NG had done late-load on Antares.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : December 2023
« Reply #17 on: 08/14/2023 03:53 pm »
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The Northrop Grumman Cygnus spacecraft's pressurized cargo module (PCM) arrives at the Space Station Processing Facility of NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Aug. 2, 2023. The PCM is sealed in an environmentally controlled shipping container, pulled in by truck on a flatbed trailer. Cygnus will launch later this year atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy to the International Space Station. Cygnus will undergo prelaunch processing at Kennedy before it is transported to SpaceX’s integration facility.
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A crane is used to lift the Northrop Grumman Cygnus spacecraft's pressurized cargo module (PCM) off a flatbed truck after arrival at the Space Station Processing Facility of NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Aug. 2, 2023. The PCM is sealed in an environmentally controlled shipping container. Cygnus will launch later this year atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy to the International Space Station. Cygnus will undergo prelaunch processing at Kennedy before it is transported to SpaceX’s integration facility.
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Today's Crew-7 press briefing:
NG-20 will be the first human spaceflight support launch from Canaveral SLC-40, launch December 2023.

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Cygnus will launch later this year atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy to the International Space Station.

great . . .

Personally I think pad 40 is more likely but we'll see

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : December 2023
« Reply #19 on: 08/14/2023 05:02 pm »
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Today's Crew-7 press briefing:
NG-20 will be the first human spaceflight support launch from Canaveral SLC-40, launch December 2023.

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Cygnus will launch later this year atop a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A at Kennedy to the International Space Station.

great . . .

Personally I think pad 40 is more likely but we'll see

LC-39A will be occupied by CRS-29 and potentially IM-1 in December. So NG-20 will almost certainly launch from SLC-40.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : December 2023
« Reply #20 on: 08/14/2023 08:09 pm »
Does Cygnus NG-20 still using the 3 ring segment PCM (pressurized cargo module)?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 11 December 2023
« Reply #21 on: 08/21/2023 04:29 am »
SFN Launch Schedule, updated August 20:
Launch 11 December, Cape Canaveral, no mention re: ASDS or RTLS
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 11 December 2023
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 11 December 2023
« Reply #24 on: 10/04/2023 02:40 pm »
Since the Cygnus spacecraft mass is typically between 8 and 8.1 tons (per the most recent Antares 230+ launches), there’s plenty of margin for Stage 1 RTLS to LZ-1.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 11 December 2023
« Reply #25 on: 10/25/2023 09:18 am »
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Falcon 9 • NG-20
Launch time: TBD
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A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch Northrop Grumman’s 21st Cygnus cargo freighter on the 20th operational cargo delivery flight to the International Space Station. The mission is known as NG-20. The launch vehicle for this mission was changed from Northrop Grumman’s own Antares 230+ rocket to SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine ended engine and booster production for the Antares program. Delayed from October.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : late January 2024
« Reply #27 on: 10/25/2023 03:16 pm »
SFN Launch Schedule, updated October 25:
Launch late January 2024.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : late January 2024
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : late January 2024
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #33 on: 12/30/2023 10:26 pm »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #34 on: 12/31/2023 05:27 am »
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #35 on: 12/31/2023 01:47 pm »
Does Cygnus require a crew access arm on the pad?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #36 on: 12/31/2023 01:56 pm »
Does Cygnus require a crew access arm on the pad?

Cygnus doesn't carry a crew, the pad at Wallops doesn't have one. Cygnus Faring on its previous LV (Antares) had a port to allow late payloads (ex, frozen goodies).  SpaceX would have to develop a specialty faring that could use the crew access arm to open a port to enter the vehicle for late payloads.  That may be a consideration down the road.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #37 on: 12/31/2023 06:19 pm »
Small correction, late loading on Antares was through the tip of the nose one, not that side opening
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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #38 on: 12/31/2023 06:29 pm »
Small correction, late loading on Antares was through the tip of the nose one, not that side opening
The side hatches are for final closeouts and lateloading of select service module payloads into either of the two hitchhiker payload interface locations.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #39 on: 12/31/2023 08:01 pm »
Small correction, late loading on Antares was through the tip of the nose one, not that side opening
The side hatches are for final closeouts and lateloading of select service module payloads into either of the two hitchhiker payload interface locations.

russianhalo117 and lucas071200,

Duly noted and I stand corrected, yes I did see a video one time where they were using the faring tip.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 29 January 2024
« Reply #40 on: 01/07/2024 08:31 am »
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Launch at ~17:20 UTC
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A Falcon 9 will launch Northrop Grumman's Cygnus NG-20 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on January 29 around 12:20 p.m. EST.
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

Now "around 12:30 p.m. EST" (~ 17:30 UTC).
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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated January 11:
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A Falcon 9 will launch Northrop Grumman's Cygnus NG-20 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on January 29 at 12:29 p.m. EST.
= 17:29 UTC
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Cygnus NG-20 launch time to the second:
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Update from NASA (January 15th, 2024):

COMMENT |       EVENT        |       TIG        | ORB |   DV    |   HA    |   HP    |
COMMENT |                    |       GMT        |     |   M/S   |   KM    |   KM    |
COMMENT |                    |                  |     |  (F/S)  |  (NM)   |  (NM)   |
COMMENT =============================================================================
COMMENT  Ax-3 Launch           017:22:11:44.000             0.0     426.7     408.8
COMMENT                                                    (0.0)   (230.4)   (220.7)
COMMENT
COMMENT  NG-20 Launch          029:17:29:52.000             0.0     424.3     408.2
COMMENT                                                    (0.0)   (229.1)   (220.4)
COMMENT
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Also, this is the next SLC-40 launch and the next Florida orbital launch, after Axiom-3.  Future Florida Starlink launches are now NET mid February.  My bolds.

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated January 17:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Axiom-3 crew to the International Space Station from pad 39A on January 18 at 4:49 p.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch Northrop Grumman's Cygnus NG-20 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 40 on January 29 at 12:29 p.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch NASA's Plankton, Aerosol, Cloud, ocean Ecosystem (PACE) satellite from pad 40 on February 6 around 1:30 a.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch the Intuitive Machines IM-1 Nova-C lunar lander from pad 39A on February 10. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Telkomsat communications satellite for Indonesia from pad 40 on mid-February TBD. A Falcon 9 will launch the next crew of four astronauts to the International Space Station, Crew-8, from pad 39A on late February, likely around midnight EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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JRTI still in Charleston. Journey Port Canaveral to Charleston took less than 2 days.

ASOG at Port Canaveral. Seems like there could be time for a Starlink launch 23rd-~25th Jan and still have pad ready for NG20 on 29th Jan but Launch Photography appears to be indicating no Starlink launches until after Feb 10th. So is ASOG also going for maintenance?
I think that some "extra" launch campaign time has been determined to be necessary to prepare for the first Cygnus launch aboard a Falcon 9, and the first launch of same from SLC-40.

See also the next post, this thread.
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As we move to a higher launch rate, we are adopting more of a factory model where the equipment is always running except for planned and unplanned maintenance. In this case,  JRTI is going through a planned dry dock while pad 40 also undergoes a planned maintenance period. The bonus is sneaking in some work on Bob/Doug given the gap in east coast launches!

https://twitter.com/TurkeyBeaver/status/1748063270169382944

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SpaceX support ship Doug is en-route to Charleston, where it will seemingly join twin ship Bob and JRTI at a shipyard.

Looks like there is quite a sizeable gap in offshore recovery requirements for a few weeks now that might allow some heavy work to be done across SpaceX's fleet.

So, the "gap" of SLC-40 Falcon 9 launches is purposeful. (January 18 to 29)
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If 6-38 and Cygnus are both RTLS, then the gap is even greater.

My money is on 6-38 RTLS from L/C  39A

Has anyone heard anything more about the extended fairing for F9.  We saw a photo of it being tested @ NASA Sandusky in the September time frame, but it was quickly removed from the source.  I guess they would need to "flight qualify" that on a "non-commercial launch" at some point? Maybe stick a couple Full Size V3's under the hood to perform some development testing before loading 100 of them on a Starship the first time. Could either LC 39A or SLC-40 Payload Processing enclose a F9 with an Extended Fairing?

Meanwhile 6-38 through 6-43 are all @FCC licensed/applied as RTLS/ASDS option, which seems to signal RTLS may become more common in the future.

More notably, 6-40 through 6-43 No longer request licensing for BOAT.

Just thinking outload here.

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So, the "gap" of SLC-40 Falcon 9 launches is purposeful. (January 18 to 29)

I make that 15th to 29th. Ax-3 on 18th was from 39A.

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My money is on 6-38 RTLS from L/C  39A

Why? Isn't ASOG available?

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Both Bob and Doug are in South Carolina.

Remember, JRTI was involved with the 1058 fiasco.  Octagrabber (not so good after)
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But I think RTLS is not a "Fall Back" plan.  It is part of the future.

For instance, Mission 1920 Group 6-36's initial FCC filing on Nov. 7  2270-EX-ST-2023 was RTLS only.
A second application 2300-EX-ST-2023 was submitted later to add ASDS/Boat as an option to the original Nov. 7 application.

Personally, I think they were looking to put 6-36 RTLS LC-39A between  USSF-52 and AX-3.  But, the Falcon Heavy delay scuttled it. 6-36 was NET December in early December.

6-38 - 6-43 are all ASDS/RTLS

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Both Bob and Doug are in South Carolina.

Remember, JRTI was involved with the 1058 fiasco.  Octagrabber (not so good after)

Who says JRTI was moved into maintenance because of B1058? SpaceX already had before that the big tug that can move a droneship to the landing site within 48 hours meaning a droneship could in theory do 5 days between landings vs 7-8 with the previous tugs. It was clear SpaceX was planning to do maintenance on JRTI and keep ASOG around doing those 5 day turnarounds using that big tug well before the incident with B1058 happened.

Also Bob and Doug being in SC doesn't really mean much in terms of the difference between RTLS vs droneship recovery.

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Both Bob and Doug are in South Carolina.

Remember, JRTI was involved with the 1058 fiasco.  Octagrabber (not so good after)

Who says JRTI was moved into maintenance because of B1058? SpaceX already had before that the big tug that can move a droneship to the landing site within 48 hours meaning a droneship could in theory do 5 days between landings vs 7-8 with the previous tugs. It was clear SpaceX was planning to do maintenance on JRTI and keep ASOG around doing those 5 day turnarounds using that big tug well before the incident with B1058 happened.

Also Bob and Doug being in SC doesn't really mean much in terms of the difference between RTLS vs droneship recovery.

Sorry if you interpreted this statement in that format.  Just pointing out that it was mentioned that  JRTI's Octagrabber was damaged in the incident with 1058. So might need some TLC while in dry dock.  Interesting to see if they install the In-motion Community Gateway while in dry dock.  Still no approval though.

As per https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2024/01/launch-roundup-012224/ will the Cygnus launch fairing be modified to do late loads? If yes will the SLC-40 crew access arm be used?

Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
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Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.

It has : https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/features/northrop-grummans-antares-team-demonstrates-new-capability-to-load-cargo-just-before-launch

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Operators maneuver the mobile payload processing facility over the front of the Antares fairing and seal the opening to provide a clean-room environment. The Antares fairing pop-top is then removed, providing access to Cygnus for loading cargo just 24 hours before launch.
can the fairing modification be towards side like soyuz fairing so that crew access arm of SLC-40 can reach and falcon 9 doesnt need to be horizontal?

Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
« Reply #57 on: 01/23/2024 03:21 am »
Why couldn't it launch from SLC-40 without any upgrades?

Does Cygnus on Falcon have late load capability?

I don't think Cygnus even has late load capability due to it being enclosed in a fairing.

It has : https://news.northropgrumman.com/news/features/northrop-grummans-antares-team-demonstrates-new-capability-to-load-cargo-just-before-launch

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Operators maneuver the mobile payload processing facility over the front of the Antares fairing and seal the opening to provide a clean-room environment. The Antares fairing pop-top is then removed, providing access to Cygnus for loading cargo just 24 hours before launch.

Ah then it depends on whether SpaceX can develop a fairing with a door in time
or will SpaceX try fast movement as in case of starlink 6-35 that creates Falcon record for total time from hangar rollout to launch at 6 hours, 33 minutes. It's well within 24hr margin

Re: SpaceX F9 : Cygnus NG-20 : Florida : November 2023
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I don't think it was ever an option with Cygnus on Antares or Atlas?

The only hatch is at the top when on the pad, so you'd need a big hole right near the top of the fairing, at the point of maximum pressure and too high to line up with the access arm.

The chance of NG and SpaceX bothering for these three launches seems about zero to me. Is there any reason to think they might?
Cygnus is not consuming whole fairing volume so have a crew access arm door and then finda way to docking port inside the fairing. But now on seeing starlink 6-35 I am convinced fast rollout and launch in 10 hours is best thing. However it needs rollback on scrubs.

If 6-38 and Cygnus are both RTLS, then the gap is even greater.

My money is on 6-38 RTLS from L/C  39A

Has anyone heard anything more about the extended fairing for F9.  We saw a photo of it being tested @ NASA Sandusky in the September time frame, but it was quickly removed from the source.  I guess they would need to "flight qualify" that on a "non-commercial launch" at some point? Maybe stick a couple Full Size V3's under the hood to perform some development testing before loading 100 of them on a Starship the first time. Could either LC 39A or SLC-40 Payload Processing enclose a F9 with an Extended Fairing?

Meanwhile 6-38 through 6-43 are all @FCC licensed/applied as RTLS/ASDS option, which seems to signal RTLS may become more common in the future.

More notably, 6-40 through 6-43 No longer request licensing for BOAT.

Just thinking outload here.
no increased gap, east coast has 2 landing pads and a Falcon 9 has landed on LZ-2 (I am not saying in Falcon Heavy). Also see Ovzon-3 they quickly removed the LZ-1 USSF-52 booster and landed Ovzon-3 booster.

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1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   291724Z TO 291803Z JAN, ALTERNATE
   301701Z TO 301740Z, 311639Z TO 311718Z JAN,
   011613Z TO 011652Z FEB, 021551Z TO 021630Z,
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      31-28.00N 077-34.00W, 31-36.00N 077-29.00W,
      31-43.00N 077-16.00W, 31-44.00N 077-09.00W,
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      31-13.00N 077-04.00W, 30-57.00N 077-41.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 041644Z FEB 24.//
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HYDROPAC 282/24(83).
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Soo...what will happen with B1072 now?
Assigned to Crew-8?
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First Stage B1077-10
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7069

Soo...what will happen with B1072 now?
Assigned to Crew-8?

On Reddit’s SpaceX page, in their Cygnus NG-20 thread, there’s a comment predicting that B1072 may be used for Crew-8.
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NASA, Northrop Grumman, and SpaceX are targeting 12:29 p.m. EST on Monday, Jan. 29, for the next launch to deliver science investigations, supplies, and equipment to the International Space Station for the agency and its partners. This launch is the 20th Northrop Grumman commercial resupply services mission to the orbital laboratory for the agency.

Live launch coverage will begin at 12:15 p.m. and air on NASA+, NASA Television, the NASA app, YouTube, and on the agency’s website, with prelaunch events starting Friday, Jan. 26. Learn how to stream NASA TV through a variety of platforms.

Filled with more than 8,200 pounds of supplies, the Cygnus cargo spacecraft, carried on  the SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, will launch from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. It will arrive at the space station Wednesday, Jan. 31.

NASA coverage of rendezvous and capture will begin at 2 a.m., followed by installation coverage at 5 a.m. NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli will capture Cygnus using the station’s robotic arm, and NASA astronaut Loral O’Hara will act as backup. After capture, the spacecraft will be installed on the Unity module’s Earth-facing port.

Highlights of space station research facilitated by delivery aboard this Cygnus are:

    the first surgical robot on the space station
    an orbit re-entry platform that collects thermal protection systems data
    a 3D cartilage cell culture that maintains healthy cartilage in a lower gravity
    the MSTIC facility, an autonomous semiconductor manufacturing platform
    and a metal 3D printer that will test the capability for printing small metal parts

Media interested in speaking to a subject matter expert about science aboard, should  contact Sandra Jones at [email protected].

The Cygnus spacecraft is scheduled to remain at the space station until May when it will depart the orbiting laboratory at which point it will harmlessly burn up in the Earth’s atmosphere. This spacecraft is named the S.S. Patricia “Patty” Hilliard Robertson after the former NASA astronaut.

NASA coverage of the mission is as follows (all times Eastern and subject to change based on real-time operations):

Friday, Jan. 26:

1 p.m. – The International Space Station National Lab will host a science webinar with the following participants:

    Lisa Carnell, director, NASA’s Biological and Physical Sciences Division
    Meg Everett, deputy scientist, NASA’s International Space Station Program
    Shane Farritor, co-founder and chief scientific officer, Virtual Incision Corporation
    Mark Fernandez, principal investigator of Spaceborne Computer-2, Hewlett Packard Enterprise
    Mary Murphy, director of programs, Nanoracks
    Michael Roberts, chief scientific officer, International Space Station National Lab
    Nicole Wagner, chief executive officer, LambdaVision
    Abba Zubair, medical director, Mayo Clinic

Media must register for the science webinar by 12 p.m., Jan. 26, at:

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6 p.m. – Prelaunch media teleconference (no earlier than one hour after completion of the Launch Readiness Review) with the following participants:

    Dina Contella, operations integration manager, NASA’s International Space Station Program
    Meghan Everett, deputy program scientist, NASA’s International Space Station Program
    William Gerstenmaier, vice president, Build and Flight Reliability, SpaceX
    Cyrus Dhalla, vice president and general manager, tactical space systems, Northrop Grumman
    Arlena Moses, launch weather officer, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station’s 45th Weather Squadron

Media who wish to participate by phone must request dial-in information by 4 p.m. Jan. 26, by emailing Kennedy’s newsroom at [email protected].

Monday, Jan. 29:

    12:15 p.m. – Launch coverage begins
    12:29 p.m. – Launch

Wednesday, Jan. 31:

    2 a.m. – Rendezvous coverage begins
    3:35 a.m. – Capture of Cygnus with the space station’s robotic arm
    5 a.m. – Cygnus installation operations coverage

NASA Television launch coverage
Live coverage of the launch on NASA Television will begin at 12:15 p.m., Jan. 29. For downlink information, schedules, and links to streaming video, visit: https://nasa.gov/nasatv.

Audio of the news teleconference and launch coverage will not be carried on the NASA “V” circuits. Launch coverage without NASA TV commentary via a tech feed will not be available for this launch.

NASA website launch coverage
Launch day coverage of the mission will be available on the NASA website. Coverage will include live streaming and blog updates beginning no earlier than 12:15 p.m., Monday, Jan. 29, as the countdown milestones occur. On-demand streaming video on NASA+ and photos of the launch will be available shortly after liftoff. For questions about countdown coverage, contact the NASA Kennedy newsroom at 321-867-2468. Follow countdown coverage on our International Space Station blog for updates.

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Para obtener información sobre cobertura en español en el Centro Espacial Kennedy o si desea solicitar entrevistas en español, comuníquese con Antonia Jaramillo o Messod Bendayan a: [email protected] o [email protected].

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Several internet sources (including a direct quote from Doug Hurley) suggest Hilliard-Robertson would have flown to the ISS "in 2002".

But I can't find any reference to a specific mission. All of the 2002-launched ISS increments (Exp 5 and 6) already had prime and backup crews assigned, none of which included Hillard-Robertson and she was not attached to either of the Soyuz taxi flights that year, which both had Russian CDRs, ESA flight engineers and tourist "third-seaters"). Moreover, she was supporting Expedition 2 at the time of her death, which I imagine would have placed her outside the crew-assignment loop until at least their return to Earth in August 2001.

The only thing I can think is that she "may" have been pencilled-in for one of the late 2002 Shuttle flights, with the STS-112, STS-113 and STS-114 crews unannounced until August 2001. But that would have made her an extremely early Group 17 flyer, much earlier than several of her Group 16 colleagues.

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I think there's a curious space-first here that's not been mentioned.

Cygnus may be the first autonomous orbital spacecraft to fly on four different orbital launch vehicles.

1) Antares 1st-generation (Ended with the ORB-3 launch failure in October 2014)
2) Atlas V (interim launcher while Antares 2nd-generation vehicle was in development)
3) Antares 2nd-generation (Ended with final available booster from Ukraine)
4) Falcon 9, as planned.

Cygnus certainly lives up to be a spacecraft that's "launcher-agnostic."
Am I missing any other spacecraft class with a similar achievement?
I don't think the Apollo Command Module quite counts. While it flew on Saturn V, Saturn I-B, Saturn I (as boilerplate) and Little Joe II, the LJ wasn't an orbital vehicle. And the CSM was built for the Saturns.
If iterations of a vehicle family (such as Falcon 9) shouldn't count, then Cygnus still gets the nod for three vehicles.
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I think there's a curious space-first here that's not been mentioned.

Cygnus may be the first autonomous orbital spacecraft to fly on four different orbital launch vehicles.

1) Antares 1st-generation (Ended with the ORB-3 launch failure in October 2014)
2) Atlas V (interim launcher while Antares 2nd-generation vehicle was in development)
3) Antares 2nd-generation (Ended with final available booster from Ukraine)
4) Falcon 9, as planned.

Cygnus certainly lives up to be a spacecraft that's "launcher-agnostic."
Am I missing any other spacecraft class with a similar achievement?
I don't think the Apollo Command Module quite counts. While it flew on Saturn V, Saturn I-B, Saturn I (as boilerplate) and Little Joe II, the LJ wasn't an orbital vehicle. And the CSM was built for the Saturns.
If iterations of a vehicle family (such as Falcon 9) shouldn't count, then Cygnus still gets the nod for three vehicles.

Boeing's X-37 has technically "flown" on 4 orbital launch vehicles (Atlas V, Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy) if you count White Knight's drop test.

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SPACE X CYGUS NG-20 (X1989)
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BACKUP:   01/30/24   1701Z-1740Z
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"It's taken a lot of modifications on our part to get this hardware ready to go fly."

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During a pre-flight teleconference on Friday (Jan. 26), William Gerstenmaier, vice president of Build and Flight Reliability at SpaceX, said that the Falcon 9's payload fairing, the shell that surrounds and protects a spacecraft during ascent while atop a rocket, had to be modified to add a hatch measuring 5 feet by 4 feet (1.5m by 1.2m) to the Falcon 9's payload fairing. The hatch gives ground crews the ability to add extra "late-load" cargo before launch including special treats like ice cream for the astronauts aboard the space station, Gerstenmaier said.

Gerstenmaier added that the complication of addition of the hatch contributed to the decision to delay the launch one day to Jan. 30. That's because the area inside that hatch must be environmentally controlled, since any contamination on Cygnus's docking hardware could affect how well it berths at the ISS.

"So that's a pretty intense activity," Gerstenmaier said. "This will be the first time we've done that. It's taken a lot of modifications on our part to get this hardware ready to go fly."

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A cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice for the postponement. No additional backup days were added.

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271343Z JAN 24
NAVAREA IV 84/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
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   311639Z TO 311718Z JAN, 011613Z TO 011652Z,
   021551Z TO 021630Z, 031528Z TO 031607Z,
   041505Z TO 041544Z FEB.
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      28-23.00N 080-29.00W, 28-26.45N 080-33.31W.
   B. 30-59.00N 077-46.00W, 31-23.00N 077-32.00W,
      31-28.00N 077-34.00W, 31-36.00N 077-29.00W,
      31-43.00N 077-16.00W, 31-44.00N 077-09.00W,
      31-44.00N 077-01.00W, 31-40.00N 076-46.00W,
      31-33.00N 076-40.00W, 31-25.00N 076-40.00W,
      31-20.00N 076-44.00W, 31-15.00N 076-55.00W,
      31-13.00N 077-04.00W, 30-57.00N 077-41.00W.
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To accommodate the requirement for late load capability for Cygnus SpaceX had to modify the fairing to add a door and also add essentially a clean room to avoid introducing contamination in the fairing area.

So a customer needed a new capability and SpaceX just added it, uh...

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Confirmation of primary launch time = 17:07 UTC and booster = B1077.10.

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This is the tenth flight of the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched Crew-5, GPS III Space Vehicle 06, Inmarsat I6-F2, CRS-28, Intelsat G-37, and four Starlink missions. Following stage separation, Falcon 9 will land at the Cape Canaveral Space Force Station Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1).

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Confirmation of <snip> booster = B1077.10.
B1072.1 has been unavailable for 10 months due to being reserved for this mission, and then in the end they casually swap it out for a general-purpose booster and B1072.1 gets assigned as a side-booster for GOES-U in April

Was there a change? Or was that information just incorrect all along? (TBF it never had a proper source)

[EDIT: I note B1072.1's new flight is using 3x non-flight-proven booster/core stages. So that might be deliberate and a reason to steal NG-20's reserved shiny booster]
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SpaceX support ship Doug has wrapped up work at the shipyard in Charleston and with no time to waste, looks to be heading straight to the fairing recovery site for the upcoming NG-20 mission. Booster will RTLS.

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Confirmation of <snip> booster = B1077.10.
B1072.1 has been unavailable for 10 months due to being reserved for this mission, and then in the end they casually swap it out for a general-purpose booster and B1072.1 gets assigned as a side-booster for GOES-U in April

Was there a change? Or was that information just incorrect all along? (TBF it never had a proper source)

[EDIT: I note B1072.1's new flight is using 3x non-flight-proven booster/core stages. So that might be deliberate and a reason to steal NG-20's reserved shiny booster]

It could also be that 1072 was held back as a backup for 1064 and 1065.
Maybe there is now a new backup side booster or one is no longer necessary.

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L-1 weather forecast. 95% 'Go' for January 30. 85% 'Go' for January 31. 90% 'Go' for February 1. Upper-Level Wind Shear risk is Low-Moderate for all three days. Solar Activity risk is Low-Moderate for January 30. All other Additional Risk Criteria are Low or N/A.

On the mission webpage, SpaceX lists February 1 as the next launch opportunity after January 30, so I don't know why January 31 is included in the forecast.

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Are there only two small sats going with Cygnus or more? Are they rideshare or as Cygnus payload?
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Here's the full mission overview, by Justin Davenport (@Bubbinski).

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Amazing landing views!
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SECO-1 and nominal orbit insertion
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Cygnus deployed!
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NASA praising NG and SpaceX for working together so well

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Falcon 9 breaking the speed of sound as it goes to and fro💥

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And Cygnus S/C Sep. That all went very well for Cygnus' first ride on Falcon 9.

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Cygnus solar array deployment in about an hour and forty minutes

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Congrats to the @NorthropGrumman and @SpaceX teams on today’s successful launch of Cygnus NG-20 to the @Space_Station. This is Falcon 9’s second launch to the orbiting laboratory in under two weeks and 10th launch so far this year!!

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That short burst of (smoke?  vapor?) from the 1st stage after entry burn and before landing burn was quite dramatic.

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What was that puff of white smoke that emitted from the first stage after the entry burn ended? Mid-air venting?

I saw that also occur during the Falcon Heavy side booster landings after entry burn shutdown starting with USSF-44.
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Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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I'll add my congratulations to NG, NASA and SpaceX for what looked like a textbook launch.

Also congratulations to SpaceX for 10 launches in January and for the great day time views!

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Possibly a view of the hatch from inside the fairing?

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Sweet launch and the RTLS view is one of the best yet.

Also, I love the shortie nozzle on the US.
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What was that puff of white smoke that emitted from the first stage after the entry burn ended? Mid-air venting?

I saw that also occur during the Falcon Heavy side booster landings after entry burn shutdown starting with USSF-44.

Good Q, view of it attached

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Falcon and Cygnus go up and Falcon comes down to LZ-1. Crowds lined Port Canaveral for views of today's ISS resupply mission. Today I learned that F9 creates quite a landing burn haze.

@NASASpaceflight mission overview: nasaspaceflight.com/2024/01/crs-ng…
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I was planning on going down to the Cape for this launch but had work pop up so here's F9 carrying Cygnus from 75 miles away

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Liftoff of NG-20 on Falcon 9!

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Green Fire! Falcon 9s first stage comes in for a landing at Cape Canaveral.

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NSF separation and boost back burn views

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This was the 13th time a Falcon booster has launched and landed ten times. And speaking of ten flights, with this 10th launch on January SpaceX has now met its current record for most launches in a calendar month.

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What was that puff of white smoke that emitted from the first stage after the entry burn ended? Mid-air venting?

I saw that also occur during the Falcon Heavy side booster landings after entry burn shutdown starting with USSF-44.

Good Q, view of it attached

Good Q? What does that even mean?
Liftoff for St. Jude's! Go Dragon, Go Falcon, Godspeed Inspiration4!

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What was that puff of white smoke that emitted from the first stage after the entry burn ended? Mid-air venting?

I saw that also occur during the Falcon Heavy side booster landings after entry burn shutdown starting with USSF-44.

Good Q, view of it attached

Good Q? What does that even mean?
The Q is short for Question.

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I think it's just the body of the rocket at supersonic speed causing condensation in the surrounding atmosphere, going through the same part of the atmosphere where you see the contrail as the rocket goes up. 

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https://twitter.com/launchphoto/status/1752411605357457867

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Falcon 9 transonic

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Falcon 9 launches Cygnus and 8,000 lbs of food & supplies to the Int'l Space Station
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More launch and landing photos from NASA Kennedy flickr

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Launch time 17:07:00 UTC?  I saw Bill Harwood was not in attendance, so no launch time tweet from him.
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https://blogs.nasa.gov/ng-20/2024/01/30/cygnus-lifts-off-atop-spacex-rocket-to-deliver-station-cargo/

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Cygnus Lifts Off Atop SpaceX Rocket to Deliver Station Cargo

A fresh supply of more than 8,200 pounds of scientific investigations and cargo is on its way to the International Space Station on a Northrop Grumman Cygnus resupply spacecraft after launching on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket at 12:07 p.m. EST Tuesday from Space Launch Complex 40 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida.

NASA Television and the agency’s website continue to provide live coverage of the ascent. About 15 minutes after launch, Cygnus will reach its preliminary orbit and is expected to complete its solar arrays deployment about two hours after launch.

Cygnus is scheduled to arrive at the space station around 4:15 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 1.

NASA+, NASA Television, the NASA app, and agency’s website will provide live coverage of the spacecraft’s approach and arrival beginning at 2:45 a.m.

NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli will capture Cygnus using the station’s Canadarm2 robotic arm, and NASA astronaut Loral O’Hara will be acting as a backup. After capture, the spacecraft will be installed on the Unity module’s Earth-facing port.

This is Northrop Grumman’s 20th contracted resupply mission for NASA.

Learn more about station activities by following the space station blog, @space_station and @ISS_Research on X, as well as the ISS Facebook and ISS Instagram accounts.

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https://blogs.nasa.gov/ng-20/2024/01/30/cygnus-deploys-solar-arrays-arriving-at-station-on-thursday/

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Cygnus Deploys Solar Arrays, Arriving at Station on Thursday

Northrop Grumman’s Cygnus cargo spacecraft has successfully deployed its two solar arrays after launching earlier today, Jan. 30, on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.

Cygnus is scheduled to arrive at the International Space Station around 4:20 a.m. Thursday, Feb. 1.

NASA+, NASA Television, the NASA app, and agency’s website will provide live coverage of the spacecraft’s approach and arrival beginning at 2:45 a.m.

NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli will capture Cygnus using the station’s Canadarm2 robotic arm, and NASA astronaut Loral O’Hara will be acting as a backup. After capture, the spacecraft will be installed on the Unity module’s Earth-facing port.

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I couldn't watch this launch live because I stayed up all night to watch the Endeavour's last liftoff. So, I watched NSF and kept up with FST posts during the last hour to relive the launch.

Future Space Tourist did an exceptional job today. They not only posted screenshots from NSF but also Twitter posts, and handled all the other post-flight posts. I'm impressed, great job.

Thanks to FST for the fine coverage, and also to our NSF webcasters!"

The F9 landing video was great.
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There was some talk beforehand that this could be a SpaceX record (shortest time) for three consecutive launches. Anyone know if this is the case?

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D̶o̶w̶n̶ Up with the Cygnus

Falcon 9 lofts @northropgrumman’s Cygnus spacecraft into the wild blue yonder, destined to berth with and resupply the @Space_Station.

This flight marked Cygnus’ first with Falcon 9; NG-20 is well underway.

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1.7 million pounds of thrust from nine Merlin 1D engines - Falcon 9 launches NG-20.

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Crystal clear blue skies >>>

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CelesTrak has GP data for 1 object from the launch (2024-021) of CYGNUS NG-20  to the ISS atop a Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral on Jan 30 at 1707 UTC: spacenews.com/falcon-9-launc…. Data for the launch can be found at: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/table.php?INTDES=2024-021

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Wow amazing launch. Had to go watch it on another stream, sorry guys but ya missed the landing and entry

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Falcon 9 launches its first Cygnus spacecraft mission to the @Space_Station

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Launch time 17:07:00 UTC?  I saw Bill Harwood was not in attendance, so no launch time tweet from him.

17:07:21 UTC apparently.

Update from NASA (January 29th, 2024):

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New thread for the NG-20 (post-launch) mission: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=60302.0

Doug returned to Port of Charleston, SC on Jan 31 @ 8:06am ET

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Check out the shockwave at 8:45. You can even make out the 2nd one near the grid fins.

Screenshot attached for posterity.
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Some reusability stats for this launch (Cygnus NG-20):

Booster B1077.10 turnaround time:
54 days 9 hours 0 minutes
(its previous mission was Starlink Group 6-33 on Dec 7, 2023 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for Falcon 9 / Heavy boosters is currently 49.17 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches, excluding new first stages.

Launchpad SLC-40 turnaround time:
15 days 15 hours 15 minutes
(the previous launch from this pad was Starlink Group 6-37 on Jan 15, 2024 UTC).

Some scheduled refurbishment ops has taken place on the SLC-40 since the last launch.

FYI: median turnaround time for SLC-40 is currently 5.10 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches.

The same type of stats for previous SpaceX launches may be found on this spreadsheet online.

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Check out the shockwave at 8:45. You can even make out the 2nd one near the grid fins.

Screenshot attached for posterity.

There are only a few other outstanding RTLS videos with such special angles, close-ups, clarity, and sound, but this takes the cake with the capture of that shock wave.  I'm always impressed with these Veterans and their equipment, NASA assets were also good in this flight but they didn't capture what you spotted.  Thanks ugordan for pointing that out and for the screenshot.  Yes for posterity.  And in 4K too.

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There are only a few other outstanding RTLS videos with such special angles, close-ups, clarity, and sound, but this takes the cake with the capture of that shock wave.

The trick with these shots is that you have to have a chance arrangement of clouds behind (a non-uniform background) so that the refracted light by the shock can show some contrast. It's very difficult to catch and you need quite a bit of luck. And, of, course, a very good, high-res tracking setup. There were a couple of RTLS F9 landings where you could make out the shockwave, but this one, I think, is the most clear of them all.

Reminds me of that one Shuttle launch back in the day, tracked by a WB-57 where you could actually see the shockwave on *ascent* because of the background clouds/terrain made it possible. Never seen anything like that since on a rocket on ascent.

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There are only a few other outstanding RTLS videos with such special angles, close-ups, clarity, and sound, but this takes the cake with the capture of that shock wave.

The trick with these shots is that you have to have a chance arrangement of clouds behind (a non-uniform background) so that the refracted light by the shock can show some contrast. It's very difficult to catch and you need quite a bit of luck. And, of, course, a very good, high-res tracking setup. There were a couple of RTLS F9 landings where you could make out the shockwave, but this one, I think, is the most clear of them all.


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Right, you are, in Pete Carstan's video of this same flight, with his camera angle that shock way is not easily apparent with a uniform blue sky behind.  Advance to 4:25 in the video.

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Right, you are, in Pete Carstan's video of this same flight, with his camera angle that shock way is not easily apparent with a uniform blue sky behind.

Nevertheless, also a very good tracking shot of reentry from quite a different vantage point.

Looks like Bob zipped up to Charleston to received fairing handoff from Doug

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For all you launch fans interested in tracking shots, I edited four independent tracking cams of the NG-20 launch.  It's in 4K, best on the big screen.

Enjoy. 

Credit to: NASA, Max-Q Productions, USLaunchReports, SpaceflighNow




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For all you launch fans interested in tracking shots, I edited four independent tracking cams of the NG-20 launch.  It's in 4K, best on the big screen.

Enjoy. 

Credit to: NASA, Max-Q Productions, USLaunchReports, SpaceflighNow




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SpaceX support ship Bob is on the way back to Florida after a brief trip to meet Doug in South Carolina.

My assumption is Bob has collected the NG-20 fairing that was recovered by Doug and is bringing it to the Cape. Doug remains at a shipyard there for work.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1753765518605942881
SpaceX & NG got be happy about that if they are inspected to be flight worthy.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1753765518605942881
SpaceX & NG got be happy about that if they are inspected to be flight worthy.

Is that black square patch the door for late load? Never seen it before for other recovered fairing halves.

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I believe it's the gap between two fairing halves in line with each other.
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I believe it's the gap between two fairing halves in line with each other.
LOL. Yeh, you are right. Nothing to see there.

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