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Discussion thread for the launch of Project Kuiper mission KF-02, the 2nd of 3 Falcon 9 launches on contract to launch for Kuiper, with 24 satellites on board.

Launch 11 August 2025, at 12:35 UTC (8:35 am EDT), from CCSFS SLC-40, aboard booster B1091-1.  The first stage successfully landed on A Shortfall of Gravitas.



Amazon Project Kuiper Broadband Constellation



https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/amazon-project-kuiper-spacex-launch]Amazon announced the 3 launch deal with SpaceX on December 1, 2023.

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Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX for three Falcon 9 launches to support deployment plans for Project Kuiper, Amazon’s low Earth orbit (LEO) satellite broadband network.

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Project Kuiper has contracted three Falcon 9 launches, and these missions are targeted to lift off beginning in mid-2025.

The 1st of the 3 missions, KF-01, launched on July 16, 2025.
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Discussion thread for the launch of Project Kuiper mission KF-02, the 2nd of 3 Falcon 9 launches on contract to launch for Kuiper, with 24 satellites on board.

Launch NET Q3 2025, from CCSFS SLC-40 or KSC LC-39A, aboard booster B10??-?.  The first stage will land on either A Shortfall of Gravitas or Just Read the Instructions.



Amazon Project Kuiper Broadband Constellation



https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/amazon-project-kuiper-spacex-launch]Amazon announced the 3 launch deal with SpaceX on December 1, 2023.

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Amazon has signed a contract with SpaceX for three Falcon 9 launches to support deployment plans for Project Kuiper, Amazon’s low Earth orbit (LEO) satellite broadband network.

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Project Kuiper has contracted three Falcon 9 launches, and these missions are targeted to lift off beginning in mid-2025.

The 1st of the 3 missions, KF-01, launched on July 16, 2025.

I think launch would be possible in August

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According to Ben Cooper's Launch Viewing Guide, KF-02 is upcoming soon after Crew-11, meaning it's most likely targeting Early August

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Upcoming launches include more Starlink and Kuiper internet satellite batches.

Edit/add zubenelgenubi: Quote first appears on July 22. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=63228.msg2702934#msg2702934
« Last Edit: 08/04/2025 07:06 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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Inside Project Kuiper's Florida hub: Preparing satellites for Amazon's space network
July 24, 2025

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The facility was operational in time to support our first mission in April and subsequent launches with SpaceX and ULA, and we’ve already completed integration for our next launch on the manifest.

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It looks like there will be no ULA vehicles available until October, and so I expect KF-03 to follow KF-02, possibly in early September.

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It looks like there will be no ULA vehicles available until October, and so I expect KF-03 to follow KF-02, possibly in early September.

I'm waiting to see if Kuiper signs more launch contracts with SpaceX. 

they have the deadline coming up next year and surely, they want to show they are serious to regulators.  Also, if they have the satellites on the ground just get them up there.
We very much need orbiter missions to Neptune and Uranus.  The cruise will be long, so we best get started.

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It looks like there will be no ULA vehicles available until October, and so I expect KF-03 to follow KF-02, possibly in early September.
Slightly later than early September but yes, it got pushed forward. Also expecting KF-02 after Starlink 11-25
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Launch has appeared on https://www.cadenaois.org/vpublic_anspdetail.jsp?view=15. Scheduled for NET August 7th at 13:40 UTC.

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Primary Launch Day 07 Aug 1340Z-1513Z
Backup Launch Day 08 Aug 1320Z-1448Z
Backup Launch Day 09 Aug 1300Z-1428Z
Backup Launch Day 10 Aug 1235Z-1408Z
Backup Launch Day 11 Aug 1215Z-1343Z
Backup Launch Day 12 Aug 1155Z-1323Z
Backup Launch Day 13 Aug 1130Z-1303Z
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Expecting B1091-1 for this mission
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Hazard area's for the next Project Kuiper launch have appeared! Designated KF-02, the launch is scheduled for NET August 7th at 13:40 UTC. This will be the 2nd out of 3 launches Amazon has contracted with SpaceX, with the final launch expected later this year.

https://twitter.com/GewoonLukas_/status/1950571842306977980

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Expecting B1091-1 for this mission
SpaceX confirms new booster, B1091
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SpaceX is targeting Thursday, August 7 for a Falcon 9 launch of the KF-02 mission to orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The 27-minute window opens at 10:01 a.m. ET. If needed, a backup launch opportunity is available on Friday, August 8 with a 27-minute window that opens at 9:40 a.m. ET.

A live webcast of this mission will begin about 15 minutes prior to liftoff, which you can watch here and on X @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.

This will be the first flight for the Falcon 9 first stage booster supporting this mission. After stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

https://www.spacex.com/launches/kf-02

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Latest mission updates

July 30: Next Kuiper mission set for August 7

Our next mission, KF-02, is scheduled for no earlier than Thursday, August 7, with a 27-minute launch window opening at 10:01 a.m. EDT. This will be our second Kuiper launch on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. It will send another 24 Kuiper satellites into orbit, bringing the total number of Kuiper spacecraft deployed to date to 102 satellites.

SpaceX will deploy the satellites at an altitude of 289 miles (465 kilometers) above Earth, at which point the Project Kuiper team will take over command of the mission. After we’ve made contact with the satellites and completed activation and health checks, we will gradually raise the satellites to their assigned altitude of 392 miles (630 km).
For more information on the mission, visit SpaceX.com/launches/kf-02.

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/project-kuiper-satellite-rocket-launch-progress-updates
« Last Edit: 07/30/2025 08:06 pm by GewoonLukas_ »
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Is Amazon insisting on new boosters or something? Are they paying extra for this privilege? Seems like more than coincidence that they'd fly on a new booster two times in a row.

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KF-03 will also use a new booster, though this doesn't seem to be Amazon requested.
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Is Amazon insisting on new boosters or something? Are they paying extra for this privilege? Seems like more than coincidence that they'd fly on a new booster two times in a row.
At this point new boosters are higher risk. Imagine that.

That statement used to draw so much scorn.

The correlation is odd though, I agree. With some 10 flights per booster on average, that's 1:1000, better than 3 sigma...  Something's afoot for sure.
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Is Amazon insisting on new boosters or something? Are they paying extra for this privilege? Seems like more than coincidence that they'd fly on a new booster two times in a row.
At this point new boosters are higher risk. Imagine that.

That statement used to draw so much scorn.

The correlation is odd though, I agree. With some 10 flights per booster on average, that's 1:1000, better than 3 sigma...  Something's afoot for sure.

KF-03 will also use a new booster, though this doesn't seem to be Amazon requested.

Or, it could simply be technological trailing-edge thinking from the time of contract (1 December 2023); Amazon insisting upon three new first stages for three launches contracted?
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Caveat: "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." ?

Add: No, I don't think SpaceX is purposely handicapping Amazon, either.



Edit/add for completeness

Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to forty times for non-crewed launches, although that number is apparently more restricted for Cargo Dragon or Cygnus than these other payloads.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1072.2    Jun 25, 2024   ??

1076.22  Feb 21   ??

1095.2    May 21   (holding for?)
1069.26  Jun 23   Starlink 10-29
1094.3    Jun 25   Crew-11
1080.21  Jun 25   Starlink 10-30
1092.6    Jun 28
1085.10  Jul 1
1067.30  Jul 2
1077.23  Jul 8
1083.14  Jul 13
1096.2    Jul 16   (next Kuiper-Falcon launch?)
1090.7    Jul 22
1078.23  Jul 26

Edit July 30: It's B1091.1, (at last).
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Is Amazon insisting on new boosters or something? Are they paying extra for this privilege? Seems like more than coincidence that they'd fly on a new booster two times in a row.
At this point new boosters are higher risk. Imagine that.

That statement used to draw so much scorn.

The correlation is odd though, I agree. With some 10 flights per booster on average, that's 1:1000, better than 3 sigma...  Something's afoot for sure.

KF-03 will also use a new booster, though this doesn't seem to be Amazon requested.

Or, it could simply be technological trailing-edge thinking from the time of contract (1 December 2023); Amazon insisting upon three new first stages for three launches contracted?

Cross-country buses still exist.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." ?
Oh I didn't mean that SpaceX is intentionally giving Kuiper low reliability boosters, just that 3-out-of-3 is statistically significant, whatever the reason.
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Is Amazon insisting on new boosters or something? Are they paying extra for this privilege? Seems like more than coincidence that they'd fly on a new booster two times in a row.
At this point new boosters are higher risk. Imagine that.

That statement used to draw so much scorn.

The correlation is odd though, I agree. With some 10 flights per booster on average, that's 1:1000, better than 3 sigma...  Something's afoot for sure.

KF-03 will also use a new booster, though this doesn't seem to be Amazon requested.

Or, it could simply be technological trailing-edge thinking from the time of contract (1 December 2023); Amazon insisting upon three new first stages for three launches contracted?

Cross-country buses still exist.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." ?
Oh I didn't mean that SpaceX is intentionally giving Kuiper low reliability boosters, just that 3-out-of-3 is statistically significant, whatever the reason.
*Tinfoil hat on*
What if it's the other way around and Kuiper is hoping for a launch failure so they can claim some insurance and recrimination?
*Tinfoil hat off*
Occam leads me to lean towards zubenelgenubi's explanation.

Have we confirmed that this mission will use B1091? According to previous tweets, B1091 will be a special booster.
https://twitter.com/edwards345/status/1920258572254130206
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B1091 is in fact a Falcon Heavy center core that will fly in a single stick configuration a handful of times before being reconfigured and flying as a Falcon Heavy. This way we get some use out of it while the Heavy customer finishes up the payload while also reducing risk as it will be flight proven.
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Have we confirmed that this mission will use B1091? According to previous tweets, B1091 will be a special booster.
https://x.com/edwards345/status/1920258572254130206?t=3agy5b-am8zKLrF_Co8l2A&s=19
The only other unflown new booster that has been tested was B1097 which only rolled back to the McGregor hangar for preparations on July 26th, earlier on in that same day a booster was spotted moving to the cape with a brand new fairing half.
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