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This topic is for updates and discussion of this mission.

Astra Rocket 3.3 - LV0009 - Spaceflight Astra-1.
Quote from: Astra
This mission includes a payload for NearSpace Launch, the S4 CROSSOVER, and Portland State Aerospace Society’s OreSat0.
https://astra.com/spaceflight-astra-1/

Launching from PSCA LP-3B.

Primary Day = Monday, February 28 2022 at 14:30-15:30 UTC (05:30-06:30 AKST).
Backup Days = March 1 to March 7 at the same time.
Primary Day = Sunday, March 13 2022 at 16:22-16:51 UTC (08:22-08:51 AKDT).
Backup Days = March 14 to March 15 2022 at the same time.

The PSCA launch id is P135 P136.
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Per discussion in the ABL RS1 topic, beginning at https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=55274.msg2330101#msg2330101, recent past/future PSCA mission ids appear to be:

P132 = Astra LV0006
P133 = ABL RS1
P134 = Astra LV0007
P135 = Astra LV0009

This notice from the PSCA does not identify the launch provider, but does give mission id P135.

Note: The dates match the PSCA Integrated Launch Schedule from the PSCA website.

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Any idea of payloads?
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Any idea of payloads?

Only the S4 CROSSOVER payload, which will stay attached to the upper stage.

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SFN Launch Schedule, updated January 27:Astra LV0008 launch delayed to February.
This will probably push the LV0009 launch back a few more days, perhaps to March, unless they already have a large enough team to support two launches at different sites in a short period of time.
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Any idea of payloads?
I heard it was also going to host some of the cubesats that were dropped from the Transporter-3 mission due to the fuel leak.
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The PSCA notice of this launch in this week's USCG District 5 Local Notice to Mariners has been updated.

Despite the delay to LV0008, the scheduling has not been changed.  Only the hazard areas have been changed.

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The PSCA notice of this launch in this week's USCG District 5 Local Notice to Mariners has been updated.

The launch period has been pushed back eight days.

Primary Day = Monday, February 28 2022 at 14:30-15:30 UTC (05:30-06:30 AKST).
Backup Days = March 1 to March 7 at the same time.

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PSCA has updated their Integrated Range Schedule to reflect the schedule change for P135 (Astra LV0009).

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This launch is obviously TBD because of the issue with the launch of LV0008.

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The PSCA notice of this launch in this week's USCG District 5 Local Notice to Mariners has been updated.

The launch period has been pushed back eight days.

Primary Day = Monday, February 28 2022 at 14:30-15:30 UTC (05:30-06:30 AKST).
Backup Days = March 1 to March 7 at the same time.
Do we still have this restriction active? Until Astra completes the research we will not have this launch
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The PSCA notice of this launch in this week's USCG District 5 Local Notice to Mariners has been updated.

The launch period has been pushed back eight days.

Primary Day = Monday, February 28 2022 at 14:30-15:30 UTC (05:30-06:30 AKST).
Backup Days = March 1 to March 7 at the same time.
Do we still have this restriction active? Until Astra completes the research we will not have this launch

The USCG LNM's only come out once per week.  We'll have to see what's in the next one.

The embedded notice might still be there, seeing how as PSCA has not yet removed the launch from the Integrated Range Schedule on their website.  But even if it is, I would not consider that as any kind of sign that the launch has any chance of taking place as scheduled.

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The PSCA notice of this launch in this week's USCG District 5 Local Notice to Mariners has been updated.

The launch period has been pushed back eight days.

Primary Day = Monday, February 28 2022 at 14:30-15:30 UTC (05:30-06:30 AKST).
Backup Days = March 1 to March 7 at the same time.
Do we still have this restriction active? Until Astra completes the research we will not have this launch

The USCG LNM's only come out once per week.  We'll have to see what's in the next one.

The embedded notice might still be there, seeing how as PSCA has not yet removed the launch from the Integrated Range Schedule on their website.  But even if it is, I would not consider that as any kind of sign that the launch has any chance of taking place as scheduled.

The weekly USCG District 17 Local Notice to Mariners that came out today still has the notice for P135 from February 28 to March 7 2022, however as I already said, I do not consider that as any kind of sign that the launch has any chance of taking place as scheduled.

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Could Astra have already recovered from its last launch?https://twitter.com/SpaceTfrs/status/1494791611586424833
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This makes it a little clearer that Astra may attempt a launch soon.
https://twitter.com/SpaceTfrs/status/1494823318813294598
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I suspect that the TFR was initiated by PSCA, who seems to think that the launch is still on.  The notice in the USCF LNM is explicitly from PSCA, as is the Integrated Range Schedule on the PSCA (Alaska Aerospace) website.

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The last two sentences of this press release from Astra about the LV0008 failure makes it clear that LV0009 is currently unscheduled.

Post-Launch Investigation: What We’re Doing

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We will share more about what we have uncovered when our investigation with the FAA is complete. Following that, we expect a safe return to launch.

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I guess the word finally got through to PSCA.  They've uploaded a new Integrated Range Schedule today.  P135 (LV0009) is gone.

But there is a new launch, P136, scheduled for March 8 to March 15.  This is the first reference to P136 that I've seen.

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Per this PSCA notice embedded in this week's USCG District 17 Local Notice to Mariners, P136 is the new launch id for what used to be P135.

Note that Alaska moves from AKST (UTC-09:00) to AKDT (UTC-08:00) early on Sunday, March 13.  The launch window is 07:22-08:22 Alaska time for the entire March 8 to March 15 launch period.  But the UTC time is 16:22-17:22 UTC for March 8 to March 12 and changes to 15:22-16:22 for March 13 to March 15.
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Per a corrected PSCA notice embedded in today's USCG District 17 weekly Local Notice to Mariners, the period from March 8 to March 12 was not correct.  (The notice itself doesn't say corrected, but references to it in the LNM do.)

The corrected launch information for LV0009 (PSCA launch id P136) is:
Primary Day = Sunday, March 13 2022 at 15:22-16:22 UTC (07:22-08:22 AKDT).
Backup Days = March 14 to March 15 2022 at the same time.

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Destination Kodiak?
https://twitter.com/wikkit/status/1499814890244034564
Probably, if so, a first launch opportunity would be at the end of the month due to all the preparations, but they still have to complete the research of LV0008, so the launch is a long way off.
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This new update on the LV0008 failure:

Post-Launch Investigation: What We Found and Next Steps

... contains these pieces applicable to the LV0009 launch.

Quote from: Astra
Note: Astra has not yet finalized the LV0008 investigation results with the FAA. The information in this blog post is preliminary until the investigation has been fully closed.
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With the root causes identified and corrective measures in place, we’re preparing to return to the launch pad with LV0009 soon — stay tuned!

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Another corrected notice from PSCA embedded in this week's USCG District 17 Local Notice to Mariners.  Launch time for Astra LV0009 (PSCA launch id P136) is pushed back one hour, to:
Primary Day = Sunday, March 13 2022 at 16:22-17:22 UTC (08:22-09:22 AKDT).
Backup Days = March 14 to March 15 2022 at the same time.

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Why not give Astra its own dedicated forum section?  The company has more orbital attempts than Virgin Orbit, which has its own section, etc.

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Why not give Astra its own dedicated forum section?  The company has more orbital attempts than Virgin Orbit, which has its own section, etc.

 - Ed Kyle

If the mods are concerned about not enough content, they could always have a "Non-Rocket Lab/Virgin Orbit US-based small launch company" forum section. Or just enumerate Astra, Firefly, ABL, and Relativity explicitly. The L2 forums have a section for two unrelated companies, so it wouldn't be totally unprecedented.

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One of the confirmed cubesats payload is OreSat0.

Source, a post by a member of the satellite team:
https://community.libre.space/t/s4-crossover-astra-rocket-lv0009-2022-03-13-16-00-utc/9056
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Not looking good for a launch on March 14 even though the Alaska Aerospace website still lists it for March 14-15, the FAA TFR for March 13-15 is still in place, and the FAA ATCSCC Operations Plan still lists it for March 14-15.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1503070285595037697

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Chris Kemp said after his SXSW talk today that Astra is waiting on its FAA license for its next launch from Kodiak. Will be ready to go as soon as FAA issues it.

Also, next three Astra launches after the Kodiak launch will be for NASA TROPICS cubesats from the Cape.

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Kodiak aviation forecast: windy but diminishing, rain, clouds from 2500' to 11000'.

https://www.aviationweather.gov/areafcst/data?region=aksouth

KODIAK IS AE...VALID UNTIL 150000
...CLOUDS/WX...
***AIRMET STG SFC WND***TIL 15Z ALG SHELIKOF STRAIT SUSTAINED SFC WND 30KT OR GTR. WKN...
***AIRMET MT OBSC***MTS OBSC IN CLDS/PCPN. NC...
E AND N PAKH SCT015 BKN025 OVC035 TOP 110. OCNL -RA.
TIL 18Z ISOL BKN015/ VIS 3-5SM -RA BR. AFT 18Z ISOL BKN025.
ELSW FEW040 BKN080 TOP 090.
TIL 15Z ALG SHELIKOF STRAIT SFC WND NE 30G40K DMNSHG.
TIL 18Z NE-E KODIAK ISLAND SFC WND NE 20G30KT.
TIL 18Z NERN EXPOSURES SFC WND NE G25KT.
OTLK VALID 150000-150600...PADQ SW MVFR CIG RA/RASN IMPR FM N. OTRW/ELSW VFR.
...TURB...
TIL 18Z PAKH NE ISOL MOD TURB BLW 040.
...ICE AND FZLVL...
TIL 21Z SW PAKH ISOL MOD ICEIC 030-090.
AFT 18Z OFSHR SE PADQ ISOL MOD ICEIC 030-110.
FZLVL 010.

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The Astra/NSF webcast is live.

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T-35 minutes to first launch attempt of LV0009, currently raining in the launch area.
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Hold at T-00:14:56 for weather.

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Scrub for today.  Same time tomorrow.

Unfortunately I have a dentist appointment tomorrow. :(  I'll definitely miss the beginning of the webcast.  I might or might not be online by launch time.

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Launch-staging all good!
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Lost telem right before SECO. awaiting confirmation of deploy. All looked nominal…
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Last view immediately before imagery cut off appeared to show the start of a spin. May be nominal (e.g. if rotation used to aid separation).

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The ground track visualization did show a deviation towards the East at around T+10 m. Might be paralax, might be insignificant, but could have compromised their velocity target by a bit (again...)?


Velocity as separation was 7.598 km/s. Seems orbital for 525 km? Simple application of Kepler's law yields 7.599 km/s for that altitude, so seems to have hit it.
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I assure you that this is normal for launches from Kodiak and/or Vandenberg.

It takes time before a ground station picks up the vehicle’s signal to confirm payload deployment.

It could be at T+60 minutes or a bit later.
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Based off of the LV0007 launch, the velocity was nominal, maybe a bit short of the target, but definitely orbital. Also, the Virgin Orbit Demo-2 flight was "Out Of Corridor" for the latter stages of flight. I think that the flight was nominal.
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I assure you that this is normal for launches from Kodiak and/or Vandenberg.

It takes time before a ground station picks up the vehicle’s signal to confirm payload deployment.

It could be at T+60 minutes or a bit later.

Separation was expected 10s after SECO. They had TM back then.
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The ground track visualization did show a deviation towards the East at around T+10 m. Might be paralax, might be insignificant, but could have compromised their velocity target by a bit (again...)?


Velocity as separation was 7.6 km/s. Seems orbital for 500 km?

I saw that on the screen when the NSF stream's host said the path was "right down the middle". The downlink from stage two looked choppy, but it seemed like there was oscillation of the Earth limb in the image frame. Perhaps that indicates undamped fuel slosh? Perhaps it was nothing.

The host of the stream mentioned the rocket had exceeded the view of the ground station, making confirmation of payload release difficult. Anyone know when the next ground station pass will be? One full revolution of the orbit, putting them within view of Kodiak again? Maybe earlier from a second site?

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The ground track visualization did show a deviation towards the East at around T+10 m. Might be paralax, might be insignificant, but could have compromised their velocity target by a bit (again...)?


Velocity as separation was 7.6 km/s. Seems orbital for 500 km?

I saw that on the screen when the NSF stream's host said the path was "right down the middle". The downlink from stage two looked choppy, but it seemed like there was oscillation of the Earth limb in the image frame. Perhaps that indicates undamped fuel slosh? Perhaps it was nothing.

The host of the stream mentioned the rocket had exceeded the view of the ground station, making confirmation of payload release difficult. Anyone know when the next ground station pass will be? One full revolution of the orbit, putting them within view of Kodiak again? Maybe earlier from a second site?

I think that it would make since to have a ground station in Alameda, but the rocket might not be in range for coverage.
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I assure you that this is normal for launches from Kodiak and/or Vandenberg.

It takes time before a ground station picks up the vehicle’s signal to confirm payload deployment.

It could be at T+60 minutes or a bit later.

Separation was expected 10s after SECO. They had TM back then.

And the hosts certainly expected to be able to announce it.  Then they *really* rushed "off the air" and to me it sounded like they were about to cry.

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Let's just wait before jumping on conclusions. I remember similar thing happened after Virgin Orbit flight. Took them a while to get confirmation. Spaceflight gets tricky if you reach orbit and lack dishes.

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Some people are saying the payload didn't deploy.

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Some people are saying the payload didn't deploy.
Who?

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Congrats to Astra for their first successful launch with a customer payload! Next up: TROPICS
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So glad to see them get over the hump! 🍺🙂

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Now we only need to know the identity of the third payload...

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I don’t get it; if it’s mostly normal for there to be a long gap in telemetry before confirmation of payload deployment, why assume the mission failed?
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Isn't the S4 CROSSOVER a hosted payload that remain attached to the upper stage?
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Isn't the S4 CROSSOVER a hosted payload that remain attached to the upper stage?

According to Gunter’s Space Page, it is.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/s4-crossover.htm
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I don’t get it; if it’s mostly normal for there to be a long gap in telemetry before confirmation of payload deployment, why assume the mission failed?

On one hand, Astra's launch record is fairly spotty, so perhaps it's not entirely unreasonable for people to assume the worst.  (Could you blame someone for doing the same on Falcon 1 flight 4?)

On the other, as posted up-thread, Astra is publicly-traded.  If you can figure out information about such a company early, you stand to earn money from it.  (And if you're conspiracy-minded, that information doesn't always have to be true.)

And finally, most importantly, this is a space forum.  When faced with a lack of information, as is so common, people tend to extrapolate in any direction that might promise an answer.  Always have, always will.  Kremlinology only stops when the flow of information returns.

Congratulations to Astra on the successful return to flight, and here's to many more successes in the future!
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Were there any issues with the failed Astra launch of last month that Astra had overcome with today's successful launch?

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Were there any issues with the failed Astra launch of last month that Astra had overcome with today's successful launch?
mainly fairing sep
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Were there any issues with the failed Astra launch of last month that Astra had overcome with today's successful launch?
mainly fairing sep

There was also a TVC malfunction in the Aether engine.
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https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1503848144311767041

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CelesTrak has a TLE for 1 object from the Astra LV0009 launch (2022-026) atop a Rocket 3.3 from Kodiak Launch Complex on Mar 15 at 1622 UTC: https://nasaspaceflight.com/2022/03/astra-return-to-flight/

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Three objects:

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And now there are 18 OBJECTS from this launch, Given that the 1 is the rocket, the other 17 should be other satellites.

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And now there are 18 OBJECTS from this launch, Given that the 1 is the rocket, the other 17 should be other satellites.

My best guess would be that there are 16 SpaceBEE satellites from Swarm (these are 0.25U cubesats, so that 16 satellites would only take up 4U), which would be a good fit to the small payload capacity of Rocket.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/spacebee-10.htm

Note: this is only speculation!

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And now there are 18 OBJECTS from this launch, Given that the 1 is the rocket, the other 17 should be other satellites.

My best guess would be that there are 16 SpaceBEE satellites from Swarm (these are 0.25U cubesats, so that 16 satellites would only take up 4U), which would be a good fit to the small payload capacity of Rocket.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/spacebee-10.htm

Note: this is only speculation!

https://twitter.com/longmier/status/1504499091367026691

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And now there are 18 OBJECTS from this launch, Given that the 1 is the rocket, the other 17 should be other satellites.

My best guess would be that there are 16 SpaceBEE satellites from Swarm (these are 0.25U cubesats, so that 16 satellites would only take up 4U), which would be a good fit to the small payload capacity of Rocket.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/spacebee-10.htm

Note: this is only speculation!

https://twitter.com/longmier/status/1504499091367026691

This tweet is deleted but here is another one from re-tweets:

https://twitter.com/TGMetsFan98/status/1504538580261249028

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Swarm Technologies CTO confirms that 20 SpaceBEE satellites were also on board the Spaceflight Inc Astra-1 mission:

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I believe this is the first time Astra mentions that it launched 22 payloads:
https://astra.com/news/lv0009-operational-progress/
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On March 15, 2022, Astra successfully delivered 22 satellites to a circular sun-synchronous orbit (SSO) out of the Astra Spaceport in Kodiak, Alaska. In addition to delivering our first customer satellites to orbit, this mission demonstrated operational progress toward our goal of a daily launch capability that we believe will dramatically improve access to space.

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Video compilation of this mission, incredible shots by Astra.
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I believe this is the first time Astra mentions that it launched 22 payloads:
https://astra.com/news/lv0009-operational-progress/
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On March 15, 2022, Astra successfully delivered 22 satellites to a circular sun-synchronous orbit (SSO) out of the Astra Spaceport in Kodiak, Alaska. In addition to delivering our first customer satellites to orbit, this mission demonstrated operational progress toward our goal of a daily launch capability that we believe will dramatically improve access to space.


S4 Crossover, OreSat0, 16 SpaceBEEs, add up to 18. Do we know what the remaining 4 satellites are?

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S4 Crossover, OreSat0, 16 SpaceBEEs, add up to 18. Do we know what the remaining 4 satellites are?

Likely 4 SpaceBEE-NZ

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Do we have any source mentioning 4 SpaceBEE-NZ in addition of the 16 known SpaceBEEs? Looks fishy to me, spacetrack only mentions 20 payloads

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Do we have any source mentioning 4 SpaceBEE-NZ in addition of the 16 known SpaceBEEs? Looks fishy to me, spacetrack only mentions 20 payloads

Now they've identified 16 SpaceBEE and 4 SpaceBEE NZ, that together with OreSat and S4 Crossover put the total count of payloads to 22 as announced

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It's now clear that the Astra LV0009 mission launched 20 SpaceBEEs, namely SpaceBEE 112 to 127 and New Zealand flagged SpaceBEE NZ-11 to NZ-14. All but two are now ID'd by 18SPCS; no IDs yet for the SpaceBEEs launched on Transporter-4

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Astra posted a proper Press Kit for this launch! Also attached is a pdf version of their online press kit.
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S4 is currently in orbit and operating under STA 1952-EX-ST-2021. At the time of launch, it was expected that transmission from the S4 would begin operating after second stage engine cutoff, activated by relays on the launch vehicle, and operate until demise, which was expected to occur within a few weeks after launch. However, the deorbit sequence for the Astra second stage, to which the S4 is permanently attached, was not successfully executed. As a result, S4 is expected to remain in orbit for a number of years. This presents an unexpected opportunity for longer term evaluation of the radios on board, as well as collecting radiation and plasma data. This license application is to replace the STA with an experimental license, to support that goal.
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