Author Topic: FAILURE: Astra Rocket 3.3 – STP-27AD1 – Kodiak – August 28, 2021 (22:35 UTC)  (Read 73091 times)

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Re: Astra Rocket 3.3 – STP-27AD1 – Kodiak – August 28, 2021
« Reply #40 on: 08/28/2021 10:38 pm »
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Re: Astra Rocket 3.3 – STP-27AD1 – Kodiak – August 28, 2021
« Reply #41 on: 08/28/2021 10:38 pm »
"Terminate sent"
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I'll bet it tumbled because it was very low, and suffering under way more aerodynamic forces at burn-out than planned.
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Re: Astra Rocket 3.3 – STP-27AD1 – Kodiak – August 28, 2021
« Reply #43 on: 08/28/2021 10:41 pm »
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twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1431747667177115649

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LAUNCH! Astra's Rocket 3.3 vehicle, designated LV0006, launches from LP-3B at the Pacific Spaceport Complex in Kodiak, Alaska.

#PowerSlide!

Overview: nasaspaceflight.com/2021/08/astra-…

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forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topi…

NSF/Astra Livestream:
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Amazing it got uphill after that powerslide. Got to MECO and then it was terminated.

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There was a call out that the vehicle was 'approaching' a nominal trajectory, seems it never got there but WAS trying to get back on track.

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How much more cash do they have to keep launching rockets that fail?

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nothing seemed normal about that, but on the other hand if it wasnt normal why didnt the FTS fire?  Maybe they just really enjoy dirtying up their launch site
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Did they release the hold downs before full power was reached?
« Last Edit: 08/28/2021 10:43 pm by kevinof »

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The fact that it power slid and the TWR was exactly 1 at liftoff, one of the outer engines did not get up to nominal running.  I bet that was the scrub yesterday too and they just "modified" the program to ignore the slow startup.  I guess it was a slow startup for a reason.

Good luck next try Astra!!!!

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https://twitter.com/astra/status/1431748557342601219

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🚀 We suffered technical difficulties, but achieved 2.5 minutes of flight data. Every launch, whether successful or not, is an opportunity for us to learn. Our team will study the data and use this information to iterate on our next launch. #AdAstra

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Screen grabs of launch. Definitely not nominal.
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The fact that it power slid and the TWR was exactly 1 at liftoff, one of the outer engines did not get up to nominal running.  I bet that was the scrub yesterday too and they just "modified" the program to ignore the slow startup.  I guess it was a slow startup for a reason.

Good luck next try Astra!!!!
Another item to investigate is that the two smaller hoses that was connected to the PLF didn't release on lift-off but several seconds afterwards.
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that they had a failure video all ready to queue up doesnt exactly give confidence
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IIRC Astra use engine cutoff as their FSS. Engine shutdown occurred immediately before the tumble, and RSO called terminate sent, so the tumble is likely a result of FSS rather than the cause.

That powerslide on launch would have wasted a lot of prop on gravity losses, so unless they had exceptional margin the vehicle would have been outside its safety corridor at MECO anyway. Up until then, it was flying a nominal trajectory within its corridor (at reduced mass and a few seconds behind schedule) so no reason to terminate until then. More data more better.

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The failure statement from the boss was gracious, and pre-recorded!

The fact that it power slid and the TWR was exactly 1 at liftoff, one of the outer engines did not get up to nominal running.  I bet that was the scrub yesterday too and they just "modified" the program to ignore the slow startup.  I guess it was a slow startup for a reason.

Good luck next try Astra!!!!
Another item to investigate is that the two smaller hoses that was connected to the PLF didn't release on lift-off but several seconds afterwards.
I think we've seen those pop off when liftoff goes as planned, as they're pulled out by force of what should be a vertical liftoff.
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that they had a failure video all ready to queue up doesnt exactly give confidence

It reflects realism and forward planning. A bit cynical, but certainly not dishonest.

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On lift off, something at the base of the vehicle is rapidly flipped up and impacts the side. Looks like the cable run aerocover.
« Last Edit: 08/28/2021 10:52 pm by edzieba »

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The prelaunch chart showed MECO at T+2:50, I think.  So not sure why we had engine cutoff at T+2:30 ish.  But doesn't look like a planned MECO. I wonder if fairing deployment was tagged to 5 seconds after MECO (as opposed to a T+ time) - didn't see it go past the camera before the webcast cutaway.

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