Quote from: marsavian on 02/02/2010 07:44 pmPaul,Do you think there is any chance of getting any serious official support now from the new 'game-changing seeking' NASA ? Seems to me you are being hindered by lack of materials science support, wouldn't it be nice and much quicker for your research if you just gave out a dielectric spec for a hybrid part and someone just went ahead and made it for you free of charge ! Everything is possible. The Tiger teams want input and will consider everything that might be groundbreaking.
Paul,Do you think there is any chance of getting any serious official support now from the new 'game-changing seeking' NASA ? Seems to me you are being hindered by lack of materials science support, wouldn't it be nice and much quicker for your research if you just gave out a dielectric spec for a hybrid part and someone just went ahead and made it for you free of charge !
Quote from: clb22 on 02/02/2010 08:03 pmQuote from: marsavian on 02/02/2010 07:44 pmPaul,Do you think there is any chance of getting any serious official support now from the new 'game-changing seeking' NASA ? Seems to me you are being hindered by lack of materials science support, wouldn't it be nice and much quicker for your research if you just gave out a dielectric spec for a hybrid part and someone just went ahead and made it for you free of charge ! Everything is possible. The Tiger teams want input and will consider everything that might be groundbreaking.I'd wait to see the results in Dr.Woodward's SPESIF paper though. First let's establish that transient mass fluctuations can indeed be generated. Then let's special-order materials.
Quote from: cuddihy on 02/02/2010 08:42 pmQuote from: clb22 on 02/02/2010 08:03 pmQuote from: marsavian on 02/02/2010 07:44 pmPaul,Do you think there is any chance of getting any serious official support now from the new 'game-changing seeking' NASA ? Seems to me you are being hindered by lack of materials science support, wouldn't it be nice and much quicker for your research if you just gave out a dielectric spec for a hybrid part and someone just went ahead and made it for you free of charge ! Everything is possible. The Tiger teams want input and will consider everything that might be groundbreaking.I'd wait to see the results in Dr.Woodward's SPESIF paper though. First let's establish that transient mass fluctuations can indeed be generated. Then let's special-order materials.Agreed. I have a hard time with things like this. While this would be so great if it was true, it doesn't pass the giggle test for me. We don't even know if this is strictly physically possible, let alone possible in the engineering or economic sense!
To me that would be tax dollars well spent no matter what the outcome of this R&D endeavor yields.
Quote from: Star-Drive on 02/03/2010 05:55 pmTo me that would be tax dollars well spent no matter what the outcome of this R&D endeavor yields. I go even further, even if this doesn't yield any results, it would be money worth spend - just from a marketing perspective. Instead of NASA telling kids "we are building big rockets so we can do what folks back in the 1960s did already with prehistoric computers and slide rulers", NASA could say "kids, look, we might not be there yet, but we are currently funding technology that might us get even to other solar systems one day - it works like this..."
Quote from: Robotbeat on 02/02/2010 11:31 pmQuote from: cuddihy on 02/02/2010 08:42 pmQuote from: clb22 on 02/02/2010 08:03 pmQuote from: marsavian on 02/02/2010 07:44 pmPaul,Do you think there is any chance of getting any serious official support now from the new 'game-changing seeking' NASA ? Seems to me you are being hindered by lack of materials science support, wouldn't it be nice and much quicker for your research if you just gave out a dielectric spec for a hybrid part and someone just went ahead and made it for you free of charge ! Everything is possible. The Tiger teams want input and will consider everything that might be groundbreaking.I'd wait to see the results in Dr.Woodward's SPESIF paper though. First let's establish that transient mass fluctuations can indeed be generated. Then let's special-order materials.Agreed. I have a hard time with things like this. While this would be so great if it was true, it doesn't pass the giggle test for me. We don't even know if this is strictly physically possible, let alone possible in the engineering or economic sense!The one thing I've always liked about Dr. Woodward's work was that it was based on NO new physics. His mass fluctuation conjecture rest squarely on accepted and experimentally verified theories such as Newton’s three laws of motion, Einstein's special and general relativity, Lorentz invariance, and of course Einstein's famous mass = Energy / c^2. And no, it's NOT E= m*c^2 for that version came later. The only element in Woodward's theoretical foundations still in dispute is how to integrate Mach's principle and its effects on the origins of inertia into GRT. Now you want to know what Jim has produced of late in regards to his latest shuttler test program. I don’t want to steal Dr. Woodward’s thunder, but I’ll append a typical, but still very preliminary data plot for your review with the understanding that Dr. Woodward is still wringing out this new shuttler test set up looking for false positives that might contaminate this test series using this particular type of “soft” PZT material as the energy storage capacitor material. And as usual, using high-k cap dielectric materials makes the result time dependent and a tad flakey, so bear with Jim’s teething pains in bringing this new test article up to its full potential, but M-E potential it has.Edit: 1. The attached data plot's X-axis is run-time in seconds. 2. Added ARC-Lite Torque Pendulum, Vacuum Chamber & Test article Paul
Quote from: Star-Drive on 02/03/2010 11:45 amThe one thing I've always liked about Dr. Woodward's work was that it was based on NO new physics. His mass fluctuation conjecture rest squarely on accepted and experimentally verified theories such as Newton’s three laws of motion, Einstein's special and general relativity, Lorentz invariance, and of course Einstein's famous mass = Energy / c^2. And no, it's NOT E= m*c^2 for that version came later. The only element in Woodward's theoretical foundations still in dispute is how to integrate Mach's principle and its effects on the origins of inertia into GRT. Now you want to know what Jim has produced of late in regards to his latest shuttler test program. I don’t want to steal Dr. Woodward’s thunder, but I’ll append a typical, but still very preliminary data plot for your review with the understanding that Dr. Woodward is still wringing out this new shuttler test set up looking for false positives that might contaminate this test series using this particular type of “soft” PZT material as the energy storage capacitor material. And as usual, using high-k cap dielectric materials makes the result time dependent and a tad flakey, so bear with Jim’s teething pains in bringing this new test article up to its full potential, but M-E potential it has.Edit: 1. The attached data plot's X-axis is run-time in seconds. 2. Added ARC-Lite Torque Pendulum, Vacuum Chamber & Test article Paul
The shuttler results seem discouraging. As you said in the newsletter, MHz or GHz freqs seem necessary for any reasonable level of thrust. Piezos just seem too "squishy" to get anything out of the noise.
We will also have a path to building GRT's traversable wormholes or Alcubierre's warp-bubbles needed for interstellar flight that will be measured in weeks to months instead of thousands of years. To me that would be tax dollars well spent no matter what the outcome of this R&D endeavor yields.
Quote from: Star-Drive on 02/03/2010 05:55 pmWe will also have a path to building GRT's traversable wormholes or Alcubierre's warp-bubbles needed for interstellar flight that will be measured in weeks to months instead of thousands of years. To me that would be tax dollars well spent no matter what the outcome of this R&D endeavor yields. Agreed, money should be found for Dr. Woodward's efforts. I'm confused by how this research into the Mach-Lorentz effect could lead to GRT traversable wormholes or an Alcubierre drive; I was under the impression that exotic stuff such as negative energy was a prerequisite for both.Reviewing your literature, it seems all your experiments have been run at room temperature. Do you have any thoughts on how supercooling would affect your results?
Am I wrong that MLTs would be compact enough that, if economics of scale are good enough (if e.g. durability is a biggie), they'd allow going out and grappling debris and either bringing it down to surface or accelerating it so that it entirely burns up in re-entry?
Quote from: Lampyridae on 02/09/2010 01:38 amThe shuttler results seem discouraging. As you said in the newsletter, MHz or GHz freqs seem necessary for any reasonable level of thrust. Piezos just seem too "squishy" to get anything out of the noise.Lampy:The results are not discouraging to me. They show that Woodward's scaling rules work for given the ~100 nanoNewtons Jim's device is generating at 47kHz and the fact that the M-E predicts cubic frequency scaling, it fits right in with my results operating at 2.2 and 3.8 MHz. Jim just need to increasing his operating frequency by a couple of orders of magnitude to see some much more impressive resutls measured in milliNewtons.
Data that he will be reporting on next month at the Space, Propulsion & Energy Sciences International Forum - 2010, to be held at the John Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory.http://ias-spes.org/SPESIF.html