According to King County permit records, SpaceX seems to have picked up another building in Redmond (Building 119). So now we have...Starlink HQ @ 18390 NE 68th StreetBuilding 116 @ 23040 NE Alder Crest DriveBuilding 117 @ 23020 NE Alder Crest DriveBuilding 119 @ 22816 NE Marketplace Drive (the address doesn't make perfect sense)
Quote from: RedLineTrain on 05/21/2018 06:03 pmAccording to King County permit records, SpaceX seems to have picked up another building in Redmond (Building 119). So now we have...Starlink HQ @ 18390 NE 68th StreetBuilding 116 @ 23040 NE Alder Crest DriveBuilding 117 @ 23020 NE Alder Crest DriveBuilding 119 @ 22816 NE Marketplace Drive (the address doesn't make perfect sense)NE Marketplace drive is the next block north.
How’s the global internet project coming along?
Pretty good. TinTin A & B are both closing the link to ground w phased array at high bandwidth, low latency (25 ms). Good enough to play fast response video games.
QuoteHow’s the global internet project coming along?https://twitter.com/nitantbhartia/status/1000446562106003456QuotePretty good. TinTin A & B are both closing the link to ground w phased array at high bandwidth, low latency (25 ms). Good enough to play fast response video games.https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1000453321121923072
Non-technical question: how do regional laws apply to a worldwide service?Example: will Starlink have to comply with any German law or pay local VAT, if the end user is in Germany?
Quote from: IRobot on 05/26/2018 08:36 pmNon-technical question: how do regional laws apply to a worldwide service?Example: will Starlink have to comply with any German law or pay local VAT, if the end user is in Germany?In general, selling any service in a country means they can stop that service, if you do not comply with all pertinent regulations.This can at the extreme mean banning your service and making ownership of terminals illegal - but even forbidding mastercard/... to do business with you works just fine.It would in the usual case work just like any other foreign owned ISP, just because it's delivered by satellite doesn't make it special.(and no, buying a terminal in the USA and shipping it to somewhere else won't automatically work, as SpaceX may be required by the local government to not allow this, in order to permit sales in that country.
Quote from: speedevil on 05/26/2018 08:43 pmQuote from: IRobot on 05/26/2018 08:36 pmNon-technical question: how do regional laws apply to a worldwide service?Example: will Starlink have to comply with any German law or pay local VAT, if the end user is in Germany?In general, selling any service in a country means they can stop that service, if you do not comply with all pertinent regulations.This can at the extreme mean banning your service and making ownership of terminals illegal - but even forbidding mastercard/... to do business with you works just fine.It would in the usual case work just like any other foreign owned ISP, just because it's delivered by satellite doesn't make it special.(and no, buying a terminal in the USA and shipping it to somewhere else won't automatically work, as SpaceX may be required by the local government to not allow this, in order to permit sales in that country.It is interesting to speculate that there are edge cases of this. For instance, in a completely failed state there might be international encouragement to turn on connectivity as a humanitarian relief tool. But as a government starts to reboot and exercise the first bits of control, at what point do you start to honor its request to limit or stop the service?
Regarding how it would work in countries that don't allow it; how does Iridium handle this issue?
Quote from: ccross20 on 05/26/2018 10:52 pmRegarding how it would work in countries that don't allow it; how does Iridium handle this issue? They don't. Iridium works everywhere. Some countries ban the phones, but if you sneak one it will still work. It made for some interesting stories in west Africa.
If you don't have permission from the government then you don't transmit in that area. Period.
Will TinTin A & B be the only demo units Starlink deploys before start of full production & deployment? Or will there be a few more? Do you have an (aspirational) timeline for when Starlink would begin commercial service?
Will do another rev before final design
It will not surprise me in the least that each ground terminal will have embedded GPS chips and know exactly where they are when they go to establish a connection to the overhead StarLink net...IF the terminal is located in a government declared off limits territory... StarLink will simply refuse the connection request... If on a mobile platform... The connection will likely terminate if you cross a border into a restricted zone...The system likely needs this GPS locating function to steer the beams correctly in both directions anyway...Just my 2 cents on recent subtopic regarding foreign country usage...
You can probably just slew the beam across the whole sky until you detect a downlink, then track that beam by wobbling your "antenna" reception to determine it's path (by wobbling reception around and continuing to slew towards highest db signal). ...
I just don't see how you can realistically restrict system access from the satellites. What happens when the satellite is over the border?
Quote from: ccross20 on 05/27/2018 02:00 pmI just don't see how you can realistically restrict system access from the satellites. What happens when the satellite is over the border? If SpaceX is selling large numbers of units into a market, they are going to have to comply with local laws, including modifying operation of units imported by users from other countries. SpaceX knows to within several meters at most where each operating terminal is, and would have to implement this blocking.For countries where they aren't selling many, the leverage is limited.