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Title: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/03/2005 05:52 pm
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=39
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: jurgen on 05/04/2005 08:09 am
"While Shuttle bashers on various internet message boards continue to ridicule the notion that winged/lifting body vehicles have no need for the wings - a correct point in reference to the operation of a vehicle in space - Lockheed Martin explained their reasoning for continuing along the lines of a space plane."

Heh, very funny
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: Chris Bergin on 05/04/2005 08:24 am
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jurgen - 4/5/2005  9:09 AM

"While Shuttle bashers on various internet message boards continue to ridicule the notion that winged/lifting body vehicles have no need for the wings - a correct point in reference to the operation of a vehicle in space - Lockheed Martin explained their reasoning for continuing along the lines of a space plane."

Heh, very funny

No prizes for where the inspiration for that came from ;) It's nice editing your own stuff ;)
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: jurgen on 05/04/2005 08:27 am
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/1534782.html

The popular mechanics article has some more cutaway pictures of the lockheed CEV proposal.
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: NASA_Twix_JSC on 05/04/2005 09:21 am
Great looking ship.
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: FransonUK on 05/05/2005 05:16 am
I was just commentating on the VentureStar thread that it's interesting how the CEV (Lockheed Martin's) is like a slim version of the body of the X-33. Seems they do have a love for this type of design. It does look great all the same.
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: NASA_LaRC_SP on 05/07/2005 03:23 pm
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FransonUK - 5/5/2005  12:16 AM

I was just commentating on the VentureStar thread that it's interesting how the CEV (Lockheed Martin's) is like a slim version of the body of the X-33. Seems they do have a love for this type of design. It does look great all the same.

Both lifting bodies.
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: gyro2020 on 05/11/2005 03:58 am
Interesting story on the front page. Can Lockheed Martin get that built in time or does this give the advantage to the Boeing people on the capsule plan?
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: SRBseparama on 05/11/2005 04:06 am
You'd have to say yes cause it would have been pretty stupid of them to even design that without an ability to get it built.
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: realtime on 08/07/2005 05:44 am
It looks complicated to me.  Not to mention heavy.  I think it'd be far quicker to develop and qualify a simple sea-landing capsule than a lifting body, but what do I know?

Don't worry, though.  Boeing may yet find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  Check the combination parachute/rocket landing system on their capsule CEV:

http://exploration.nasa.gov/documents/reports/cer_final/Schafer.pdf
Title: RE: CEV - LockMarts - is a WINGED lifting body!
Post by: JamesSpaceFlight on 08/07/2005 07:12 am
Hmmm. looks like 1950/60 design, can't say I rate it.