Quote from: jebbo on 01/13/2023 06:24 amYes. It is Guest Observer proposal 1618 It will use MIRI and its coronagraph to directly image alpha Cen A.Note: it has a 12-month proprietary period, so public results might not be this year.https://www.stsci.edu/jwst/science-execution/program-information.html?id=1618--- TonyQuoteABSTRACTAlpha Centauri A is the closest solar-type star to the Sun and offers an unique opportunity to detect both a mature gas giant planet (consistent with existing radial velocity constraints) and a zodiacal dust cloud. A carefully planned observational sequence using the MIRI Coronagraph (F1550C) and innovative post-processing would be sensitive down to a radius limit of 0.5~0.7 R-Jupiter for planets within ~3 AU (~2.5”) around alpha Cen A where models predict a region of stability against disruption by alpha Cen B. These same observations would be sensitive to a level of zodiacalemission only a few times brighter than that of the Sun’s, an unprecedented level not even achieved by ground based interferometers. The proposed observations would probe the limit of JWST high contrast imaging on a star that offers the best chance for the ultimate detection of Earth analogs by future ground and/or space based facilities. The experiment is admittedly high risk, but the prospect of directly imaging a planet around our closest stellar neighbor is an exciting one.Bold emphasis mine.They are going to try to directly image a planet half the size of Jupiter! Even if they don't succeed, they get to try out a technique that may be used in the future.They are also going to try to image the zodiacal light. Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance? There are obvious world-shattering implications if they see any...
Yes. It is Guest Observer proposal 1618 It will use MIRI and its coronagraph to directly image alpha Cen A.Note: it has a 12-month proprietary period, so public results might not be this year.https://www.stsci.edu/jwst/science-execution/program-information.html?id=1618--- Tony
ABSTRACTAlpha Centauri A is the closest solar-type star to the Sun and offers an unique opportunity to detect both a mature gas giant planet (consistent with existing radial velocity constraints) and a zodiacal dust cloud. A carefully planned observational sequence using the MIRI Coronagraph (F1550C) and innovative post-processing would be sensitive down to a radius limit of 0.5~0.7 R-Jupiter for planets within ~3 AU (~2.5”) around alpha Cen A where models predict a region of stability against disruption by alpha Cen B. These same observations would be sensitive to a level of zodiacalemission only a few times brighter than that of the Sun’s, an unprecedented level not even achieved by ground based interferometers. The proposed observations would probe the limit of JWST high contrast imaging on a star that offers the best chance for the ultimate detection of Earth analogs by future ground and/or space based facilities. The experiment is admittedly high risk, but the prospect of directly imaging a planet around our closest stellar neighbor is an exciting one.
Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance?
The zodiacal light is reflected light from sol inside the solar system.
Quote from: sghill on 01/23/2023 04:06 pmThey are also going to try to image the zodiacal light. Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance? There are obvious world-shattering implications if they see any... How would CFC's in the zodiacal light be "world shattering". The zodiacal light is reflected light from sol inside the solar system.
They are also going to try to image the zodiacal light. Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance? There are obvious world-shattering implications if they see any...
Quote from: deadman1204 on 01/23/2023 06:25 pmQuote from: sghill on 01/23/2023 04:06 pmThey are also going to try to image the zodiacal light. Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance? There are obvious world-shattering implications if they see any... How would CFC's in the zodiacal light be "world shattering". The zodiacal light is reflected light from sol inside the solar system.Observing CFCs in the atmospheres of exoplanets is considered by astronomers as compelling evidence of a technosignature as they are only produced in significant quantities on Earth by industrial processes. So, reasoning by analogy ...
Quote from: CuddlyRocket on 01/25/2023 12:12 amQuote from: deadman1204 on 01/23/2023 06:25 pmQuote from: sghill on 01/23/2023 04:06 pmThey are also going to try to image the zodiacal light. Question: Are trace CFC gases in the zodiacal light something they could register with the spectrometer at this distance? There are obvious world-shattering implications if they see any... How would CFC's in the zodiacal light be "world shattering". The zodiacal light is reflected light from sol inside the solar system.Observing CFCs in the atmospheres of exoplanets is considered by astronomers as compelling evidence of a technosignature as they are only produced in significant quantities on Earth by industrial processes. So, reasoning by analogy ...Zodiacal light is not from the atmosphere of a planet. It is light reflected from the dust floating in space around a star. In our solar system the figure I get for the dust that reflects zodiacal light is the particles have a total volume equivalent to a 30 km sphere broken down into dust, that is a reflective surface many orders of magnitude greater than Earth's surface. CFCs are an incredibly small percent of our atmosphere. I highly doubt you would be able to find the signature of CFCs in the atmosphere of a planet within that dust cloud within all that light noise from zodiacal light.CFCs in our atmosphere can be monitored by satellites. The Aura satellite uses a microwave limb sounder to build a vertical profile of the gasses in our atmosphere. The microwaves are emitted by the gasses and not part of reflected sunlight. But to do it at stellar distances, is more than likely going to be beyond our technical capabilities for a long time if ever. So looking for CFCs from a planet buried inside the cloud of dust reflecting sunlight isn't likely to find CFCs anytime soon.
A previously unknown 100–200-metre asteroid — roughly the size of Rome’s Colosseum — has been detected by an international team of European astronomers using the NASA/ESA/CSA James Webb Space Telescope. Their project used data from the calibration of the Mid-InfraRed Instrument (MIRI), in which the team serendipitously detected an interloping asteroid. The object is likely the smallest observed to date by Webb and may be an example of an object measuring under 1 kilometer in length within the main asteroid belt, located between Mars and Jupiter. More observations are needed to better characterize this object’s nature and properties.