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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1080 on: 07/18/2024 10:06 pm »

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1081 on: 07/19/2024 06:06 am »
https://astra.com/news/closing-private/

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ASTRA ANNOUNCES CLOSING OF TAKE-PRIVATE TRANSACTION
JULY 18, 2024

Alameda, California — July 18, 2024 — Astra Space, Inc. (“Astra” or the “Company”) (Nasdaq: ASTR) announced today the successful closing of its take-private transaction.

Under the terms of the definitive agreement for the transaction (the “Merger Agreement”) that was previously announced on March 7, 2024, Apogee Parent, Inc., (“Parent”), an entity formed by Chris Kemp, Astra’s co-founder, chief executive officer and chairman, and Dr. Adam London, Astra’s co-founder, chief technology officer and director, will acquire all of the outstanding shares of the Company’s Class A common stock, par value $0.0001 per share (the “Class A Shares”) not already owned by it for the right to receive $0.50 per share in cash, as more fully described in the Merger Agreement.

With the completion of the take-private acquisition, the Class A Shares ceased trading prior to the opening of trading on July 18, 2024 and will no longer be listed on the Nasdaq Capital Market (“Nasdaq”). The Company also intends to make the applicable filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (the “SEC”) to suspend its periodic reporting obligations and to terminate the registration of the Class A Shares underlying the Company’s active registration statements.

As previously disclosed, (i) on April 17, 2024, the Company received a deficiency notice from Nasdaq that the Company is not in compliance with Nasdaq Listing Rule 5450(a)(1) because the per share closing bid price of the Class A Shares had been below $1.00 for thirty consecutive business days prior to such deficiency notice; and (ii) on April 23, 2024, the Company received a deficiency notice from Nasdaq that the Company is not in compliance with the minimum stockholders’ equity listing requirement set forth in Nasdaq Listing Rule 5550(b)(1) because the Company’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the period ended December 31, 2023, reported stockholders’ equity below $2.5 million.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1082 on: 08/05/2024 07:37 pm »
Looks like some kind of stage one test tank out at their test site located next to Castle Airport.
https://twitter.com/cosmictylxr/status/1820225550499316182
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1083 on: 09/06/2024 03:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/astra/status/1832070641429971045

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Last week we confirmed that the 2 Astra Spacecraft Engines that launched on the Transporter-11 mission have successfully fired on orbit. Meanwhile, here on Earth, a thruster fires with krypton in one of our vacuum chambers.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1084 on: 09/28/2024 10:29 pm »
Looks like some kind of stage one test tank out at their test site located next to Castle Airport.
https://twitter.com/cosmictylxr/status/1820225550499316182

https://twitter.com/Astra/status/1829524053893521437

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A Rocket 4 first stage tank returns to the factory after passing qualification testing. This qualification confirms that the primary structure of Rocket 4 can withstand stress and loads far beyond those seen in flight and is a major milestone in the overall launch system design.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1085 on: 10/18/2024 04:31 am »
FYI that's a dewar they brought in to support the testing of the tank, not the test tank it self. The main test site is angled in such a way that it is not possible to look at it from the outside without being on private land. My thinking is that they're probably testing to support the USSF contract and launch once per the contract, get the money, and leave. They don't have an in house engine production capability and the subcontractor they use for engine production (Velo3d) isn't really around anymore.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1086 on: 10/18/2024 02:06 pm »
FYI that's a dewar they brought in to support the testing of the tank, not the test tank it self. The main test site is angled in such a way that it is not possible to look at it from the outside without being on private land. My thinking is that they're probably testing to support the USSF contract and launch once per the contract, get the money, and leave. They don't have an in house engine production capability and the subcontractor they use for engine production (Velo3d) isn't really around anymore.
Since Rocket 4's first-stage engine is basically a Reaver engine built in-house, they could just buy more directly from Firefly, which does seem to still be making them. Of course, that would only be relevant if Rocket 4 could fly two times, which is two more times than I expect.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1087 on: 10/18/2024 03:02 pm »
They could also switch to Ursa Major's indev engine Ripley which is similar to Chiron but with more thrust and higher isp IIRC, but they probably don't have the financials to do that

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1088 on: 10/18/2024 09:52 pm »
Since Rocket 4's first-stage engine is basically a Reaver engine built in-house, they could just buy more directly from Firefly, which does seem to still be making them. Of course, that would only be relevant if Rocket 4 could fly two times, which is two more times than I expect.

No, they do not currently have the capability to build Reavers in house. The Chiron config was a modified Reaver config Firefly was selling under the Firefly engine program that was run by Tom Markusic. He is no longer with the company so the program shut down and any more Chirons would have to be made by Firefly who already purged all records of their engine selling program so I doubt they are very inclined to do so. R3 production was subcontracted out to a lot of local machine shops in Alameda and I doubt that has changed for the little test hardware they have for R4, and very few local machine shops can produce Chirons. USSF wants R4 to fly once (and technically it doesn't even have to be a success), but unlike the SALVO - R3 line that was more or less designed by the government for the government, R4 doesn't have a program or market niche, so I doubt it's going to fly more than once (using fly very liberally here).

They could also switch to Ursa Major's indev engine Ripley which is similar to Chiron but with more thrust and higher isp IIRC, but they probably don't have the financials to do that

I don't think they know how to design a rocket without a government manager. R3 took about 9 years to mature and that was a product of a very specific historical context that is lacking for R4. I personally have tons of respect for the government side of the R3 program but to me it was pretty clear from the beginning that trying to commercialize something like this was not going to go well, and lo and behold. R4 is a clean sheet design that is trying to hit a commercial market from a company that didn't even run a program under government guidance well, with very little government backing. I hope they just stick to building ion engines after this flight.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1089 on: 10/19/2024 03:28 am »
Since Rocket 4's first-stage engine is basically a Reaver engine built in-house, they could just buy more directly from Firefly, which does seem to still be making them. Of course, that would only be relevant if Rocket 4 could fly two times, which is two more times than I expect.

No, they do not currently have the capability to build Reavers in house. The Chiron config was a modified Reaver config Firefly was selling under the Firefly engine program that was run by Tom Markusic. He is no longer with the company so the program shut down and any more Chirons would have to be made by Firefly who already purged all records of their engine selling program so I doubt they are very inclined to do so. R3 production was subcontracted out to a lot of local machine shops in Alameda and I doubt that has changed for the little test hardware they have for R4, and very few local machine shops can produce Chirons. USSF wants R4 to fly once (and technically it doesn't even have to be a success), but unlike the SALVO - R3 line that was more or less designed by the government for the government, R4 doesn't have a program or market niche, so I doubt it's going to fly more than once (using fly very liberally here).

I was more or less assuming that if Astra ever had the capability to build Reavers themselves, they'd lost it over the course of various layoffs. But I guess I also didn't think there were substantive differences between the Chiron config of Reaver and the standard Reaver being built at scale by Firefly already, so swapping over to the "standard" Reaver for subsequent Rocket 4 launches would work. Of course, if Firefly is no longer interested in selling even the standard Reavers to outside companies, that's off the table too.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1090 on: 10/19/2024 08:23 pm »
I was more or less assuming that if Astra ever had the capability to build Reavers themselves, they'd lost it over the course of various layoffs.

They never had this ability to begin with, and in fact even production of Delphin/Aether was at first outsourced to Micro Cooling Concepts and then later to Velo3D.  The only change between that and Chiron was that they cut or reassign the engine design team elsewhere. They did layoff the prop test teams though. Now, the company has been frequently described as a group of propulsion engineers who doesn't know much about rocket design, so make this as you will.

But I guess I also didn't think there were substantive differences between the Chiron config of Reaver and the standard Reaver being built at scale by Firefly already, so swapping over to the "standard" Reaver for subsequent Rocket 4 launches would work. Of course, if Firefly is no longer interested in selling even the standard Reavers to outside companies, that's off the table too.

Firefly builds and controls the Chiron mod process. ALL currently existing Chiron configs are made by Firefly. It wasn't actually a substantial change on Firefly's part but keeping this relationship would have wasted too much engineering hours on Firefly's part that could be better spent on improving the Reavers on Alpha or Miranda. Not coincidentally the (claimed) Chiron mods are all on the eventual Alpha roadmap but currently you can't swap Chiron mods for base Reaver and still expect the rocket to close. Theoretically FF could sell base Reaver and Astra can subcontract some welders on the island to make them into Chiron configs but FF purging all records of the engine sales program is a sign that they aren't particularly interested in selling anymore engines they didn't already delivered.

Since this is the company thread anyways, it is probably best to analyze the company as a government contractor that just get spun off to commercialize due to budget constraints. SALVO-R3 was a continuous technical line with government handholding and the government was more than happy to have ckemp come in and brought in "significant private funding" to continue the program to supplement government funds. As with all commercialization the tradeoff is that the government had way less oversight power, but a lot of engineering decisions that eventually lead to failures were planted during SALVO and ckemp just made it worse because (as revealed in the Vance book) ckemp specifically wanted to continue SALVO because it is easier to finish a product that the government already did a lot of work on and continue the initial design inertia than a clean sheet product that is actually made for the market (especially if you don't know anything about rocket management), and ZIRP made it much easier to sell it to the investors. That's why R4 seems lost "despite" the fact that the company made it to the pad before. The company truly has never done commercial rockets before and R4 is actually their first foray into this space, now that they lost their government handholding. Lots of stuff they did on SALVO-R3 was acceptable when the government was the main customer but very much not going to cut it for a commercial market. Buying Apollo Fusion was probably the first truly commercial space thing they've done.

And maybe the government should stop naming stuff "affordable". "Small Affordable Launch Vehicle to Orbit" turns out to have eliminated 2 billion from the market...


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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1091 on: 10/23/2024 01:33 pm »
https://astra.com/news/dod-awards-astra-contract-44-mill/

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AWARDS ASTRA CONTRACT VALUED UP TO $44 MILLION
OCTOBER 23, 2024

Contract supports development of Astra’s tactical launch system

Alameda, California — Astra, a leading provider of launch services and spacecraft engines, announced today that it has been awarded a contract by Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) with a ceiling of up to $44 Million. The contract supports advancing and scaling the production capabilities of Astra’s unique tactically responsive launch system, to achieve the prototype objective of launching Rocket 4 to orbit or suborbit and from the US, Australia, or other locations.

“This award is a testament not only to our team’s perseverance this past year, but also a validation of our vision for tactically responsive space,” said Chris Kemp, Founder and CEO of Astra. “We’re proud to have so many partners who understand and support the importance of point-to-point space delivery for national security and defense applications.”

This contract facilitates the continued development of Astra’s Launch System 2 including the demonstration of automated laser welding capabilities in the production of Rocket 4, advanced concepts of Launch System 2’s ground infrastructure, and the industrialization of Astra’s production facilities.

“This is a major vote of confidence in Astra and the continued development of Rocket 4 and our next gen launch system,” said Dr. Adam London, Founder and CTO of Astra. “We are honored to partner with the DIU as we bring Rocket 4 to market with a renewed focus on reliability and scale.”

Astra intends to design and manufacture all of its rockets at its campus in Alameda, California, in its 250,000 sq. ft. manufacturing and testing facilities. These co-located, state-of-the art production and testing facilities have allowed Astra to rapidly iterate, reduce dependencies on third-party suppliers, and deliver for customers.

Astra delivered its first commercial launch to low Earth orbit in 2021, and subsequently 22 satellites to orbit in March of 2022. Launch System 2 is one of the lowest cost-per-launch dedicated orbital launch systems and is highly optimized for small constellation deployment, tactically responsive space (TacRS), point-to-point delivery, and national security and defense applications.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1092 on: 10/24/2024 03:55 am »
What are you talking about? What "government manager", "government side", and "government handholding"? This is ridiculous. Can people just show up here and make stuff up with no bearing in reality?

This very thread listed the NASA contract R3 was developed under on the first page. People often make the mistake of analyzing R3 as something that was born out of the tech NewSpace ZIRP startup boom and makes no market sense because it is not reliable. I disagree with this framing. The requirements were made to meet some government goals. Rapid response, being cheap as possible, fits in a container, and only launching 25kg to orbit is terrible for the market but great for the government. Their mistake was assuming that there is a commercial market for what was really only of interest to the government. Rumor has it that, after SALVO ran out of funding, Chris Kemp camp out of the Ventions garage and would not leave until Adam London agreed to continue the program with him as the CEO and lots of private funding. Vance's book hinted at this but I don't know for sure if it happened. Personally I think R3 was a great comeback story, because space development programs cancelled by the government usually stays dead and not go to orbit. Time will tell if Astra gets another comeback story.

Sounds like you used to work there and hold a grudge for some reason. Did you get fired?

I do not hold a grudge, actually. I like them. I hope they survive as a company. The 44 million contract is not a launch order but for development of the system itself. Hopefully they use it well!

Anyways, on the DIU contract itself, in general DIU contracts are more like job programs than actually procurement contracts. The point is to create jobs in a specific area, and Alameda County doesn't have a lot of aerospace job opportunities (don't ask how I know). I was personally surprised because it seems that ABL would have been closer in concept, but w/e. 44 million is just right above the total amount of government contract this company has ever received, combined. If this contract extend the company's runway, then it is very much a win in the government's books. I hope DIU doesn't come to regret it the same way NASA LSP did (different NASA office than the one that awarded the R3 development contract)
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1093 on: 10/24/2024 04:32 am »
What are you talking about? What "government manager", "government side", and "government handholding"? This is ridiculous. Can people just show up here and make stuff up with no bearing in reality?

This very thread listed the NASA contract R3 was developed under on the first page. People often make the mistake of analyzing R3 as something that was born out of the tech NewSpace ZIRP startup boom and makes no market sense because it is not reliable. I disagree with this framing. The requirements were made to meet some government goals. Rapid response, being cheap as possible, fits in a container, and only launching 25kg to orbit is terrible for the market but great for the government. Their mistake was assuming that there is a commercial market for what was really only of interest to the government. Rumor has it that, after SALVO ran out of funding, Chris Kemp camp out of the Ventions garage and would not leave until Adam London agreed to continue the program with him as the CEO and lots of private funding. Vance's book hinted at this but I don't know for sure if it happened. Personally I think R3 was a great comeback story, because space development programs cancelled by the government usually stays dead and not go to orbit. Time will tell if Astra gets another comeback story.

Sounds like you used to work there and hold a grudge for some reason. Did you get fired?

I do not hold a grudge, actually. I like them. I hope they survive as a company. The 44 million contract is not a launch order but for development of the system itself. Hopefully they use it well!

You know what. My post was unnecessarily harsh so I just deleted it as a symbolic gesture.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1094 on: 10/24/2024 02:18 pm »
https://astra.com/news/dod-awards-astra-contract-44-mill/

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AWARDS ASTRA CONTRACT VALUED UP TO $44 MILLION
OCTOBER 23, 2024

Contract supports development of Astra’s tactical launch system

This is another incomprehensible award from DoD’s “responsive launch” cadre.
Given the low odds of Astra ever having a ready fleet of rockets to provide on demand, tactically responsive launches, one would think that it’s worth billions of dollars to DoD to have another alternative to SpaceX and Rocketlab.

This is more baffling than USSF buying the last, orphaned Pegasus (which was substantially underbid by Falcon for the IXPE launch) for a “responsive launch” exercise knowing that unique vehicle was at a dead end.  At least that could be explained by classic cronyism, making a long term customer whole and grateful while having a fun romp. 

What “innovation” does DIU buy from Astra?
Given how long Astra has been floundering how can their rocket be called “tactical”?
To paraphrase Feynman, their system should not be called “tactical”, rather it’s “financial”. ;)
« Last Edit: 10/24/2024 02:37 pm by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1095 on: 10/24/2024 02:32 pm »
https://astra.com/news/dod-awards-astra-contract-44-mill/

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AWARDS ASTRA CONTRACT VALUED UP TO $44 MILLION
OCTOBER 23, 2024

Contract supports development of Astra’s tactical launch system

This is another incomprehensible award from DoD’s “responsive launch” cadre.
Given the low odds of Astra ever having a ready fleet of rockets to provide on demand, tactically responsive launches, one would think that it’s worth billions of dollars to DoD to have another alternative to SpaceX and Rocketlab.

This is more baffling than USSF buying the last orphaned Pegasus (which was substantially underbid by Falcon for the IXPE launch) for a “responsive launch” exercise knowing that unique vehicle was at a dead end.  At least that could be explained by classic cronyism, making a long term customer whole and grateful while having a fun romp. 
What “innovation” does DIU buy from Astra?
Given how long Astra has been floundering how can their rocket be called “tactical”.
To paraphrase Feynman, their system should not be called “tactical”, rather it’s “financial”. ;)
Astra has made it to orbit twice, which is more than Relativity and ABL and Blue Origin and about a dozen others worldwide can say.  Even Firefly Alpha has only scored two true orbital successes so far.

 - Ed Kyle
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1096 on: 10/24/2024 08:08 pm »

This is another incomprehensible award from DoD’s “responsive launch” cadre.
Given the low odds of Astra ever having a ready fleet of rockets to provide on demand, tactically responsive launches, one would think that it’s worth billions of dollars to DoD to have another alternative to SpaceX and Rocketlab.

The contract value is low because the point is to see what small corps can do with a shoestring budget. If they get a working product from it, great. If they don't they don't lose much. See SALVO versus the ALASA budget.

This is more baffling than USSF buying the last, orphaned Pegasus (which was substantially underbid by Falcon for the IXPE launch) for a “responsive launch” exercise knowing that unique vehicle was at a dead end.  At least that could be explained by classic cronyism, making a long term customer whole and grateful while having a fun romp. 

There is neither a commercial market nor a scientific market for responsive launch. It is tailored made for a specific type of government goals. Just because F9 didn't win that contract doesn't mean it's "cronyism". The government is also not obligated to make customers whole. There isn't a lot of public literature on Pegasus, but as Astra wrote on their NASA TechPort entry for R3, R3 was just a continuation of SALVO which was made for responsive launch.

What “innovation” does DIU buy from Astra?
Given how long Astra has been floundering how can their rocket be called “tactical”?
To paraphrase Feynman, their system should not be called “tactical”, rather it’s “financial”. ;)
The "innovation" they are buying is jobs. Astra outsourced most of their production to local machine shops. After the Navy left the area there has been a dearth of industrial jobs around the base, and not everyone is willing to move around to find those same jobs. Giving those machine shops a rocket to build keeps that capability. The military has been evaluating restarting domestic shipbuilding in the area, and if they decided to restart the base, even if the rocket doesn't work out you still have people who knows how to bend metal in the area and they can easily turn to making ships. FWIW DIU has been frequently criticized for being a little more than a job program, but they aren't giving those money away for no reason.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1097 on: 10/25/2024 05:14 pm »
If you thought Astra was going to go away quietly, you were wrong [Oct 25]

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Responsive launch

The money is important, but more important is the signal sent to potential investors that Astra may actually become a viable entity once again. In particular, defense officials are interested in Astra's ongoing efforts to develop a mobile launch capability by which the rocket can be delivered to a concrete launch pad in two cargo containers and the ground support equipment and consumables in five additional containers by barge, train, or truck.

"What we're doing with this thing is really important for our country," Kemp said. "No one else is doing a tactical mobile launch system. So if that's going to exist in America in the next 10 years, we're the only team that is going to do that. And I think investors understand that, which is why they invest in us. And I know our customers understand that, which is why they keep giving us contracts."

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At present, Astra is building a qualification tank for Rocket 4's upper stage and has recently completed qualification testing of its first-stage tank. The company is also preparing what the investor document refers to as an "Astra Version of Engine" for qualification testing. There has long been some intrigue about the main engine that Rocket 4 will use, and it is most commonly believed that Astra would buy engines from Firefly. But that no longer appears to be the case.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1098 on: 10/27/2024 10:31 pm »
There is neither a commercial market nor a scientific market for responsive launch.

Things that cost time almost always cost money too so commercial pressures to cut costs will probably get commercial launch 98% of the way to responsive launch. Once Starship and Nova are launching every day with full reuse they can probably tweak their processes to provide responsive launch too. The bottleneck to responsive launch is likely to be the FAA and the ranges, not things under launch company control.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #1099 on: 10/28/2024 12:35 am »
There is neither a commercial market nor a scientific market for responsive launch.

Things that cost time almost always cost money too so commercial pressures to cut costs will probably get commercial launch 98% of the way to responsive launch. Once Starship and Nova are launching every day with full reuse they can probably tweak their processes to provide responsive launch too. The bottleneck to responsive launch is likely to be the FAA and the ranges, not things under launch company control.
If there were a company launching low-priority payloads twice a week, then that company could charge a premium to launch a responsive payload within a week of the launch being purchased. SpaceX appears to be launching Starlink about twice a week. Logistics would be a nightmare unless the responsive payloads are kept in inventory near the SpaceX integration facility, but I think this would be true for any LV providing responsive launches.

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