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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #860 on: 03/24/2023 06:22 am »

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #861 on: 03/31/2023 06:00 am »
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1641677257491005440

(I'm not going to post the original sources because even those are pretty cryptic, it's almost reading-between-tea-leaves level)
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #862 on: 03/31/2023 12:51 pm »
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1641677257491005440

(I'm not going to post the original sources because even those are pretty cryptic, it's almost reading-between-tea-leaves level)

The March 30 EVA was officially confirmed: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/eGjZkbKLcxxGsP0mSY9v7g

No details given as with last time, except that it was still Fei Junlong & Zhang Lu doing the EVA, with Deng Qingming supporting from the inside (probably controlling the robotic arm).
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #863 on: 03/31/2023 02:04 pm »
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #864 on: 04/01/2023 09:09 am »
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1641786809737957376

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #865 on: 04/02/2023 05:26 am »

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #866 on: 04/03/2023 01:44 am »
Few details does not equal "secret". 
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« Reply #867 on: 04/03/2023 08:58 am »
Few details does not equal "secret". 

It was definitely secret until after it happened. Few details exist now, well after its execution was announced.

I've read musings that one of the main activities for the spacewalk was to jettison trash, since storage space appears to be running low in CSS, especially with upcoming Tiangong departures (indeed, the musings also mentioned the freighters might loiter and redock after a docking port becomes available again). This "lackluster objective" might justify why it wasn't publicized, although surely something else was carried out along with taking out the trash. Or perhaps this is just a low-effort smokescreen to cover something beefier.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #868 on: 04/03/2023 02:53 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #869 on: 04/03/2023 03:59 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!

If there's no space in the freighters, what else can they do? They have a very capable ship, but that means it's not as easily disposable as Progresses might have been in the past, which is what basically supported frequent and abundant trash disposal in long-duration space stations until now.

Certain amounts of trash jettison was common practice in mostly every space station before ISS (not justifying it as good practice, just noting how it was arranged until not very long ago). In fact, unneeded bulky items are regularly jettisoned from ISS both from the USOS and the ROS: an old Orlan filled with waste, external payloads of all kinds, including a ROSA, several experiment packages, MLI bundles, an HTV EP... Good thing about reasonable amounts of crew waste in human-tended LEO is that they have a pretty favorable ballistic coefficient for quick deorbit, and will completely burn up/sublimate away once it does, posing literally no ground hazard.

And again, these are some rumors that were published online - most likely the real reason for the spacewalk was not just "taking out the trash", and if it indeed happened was just a task of opportunity for some particularly cumbersome items.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #870 on: 04/05/2023 08:46 am »
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1643264871067439104

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CMSA released a 25s footage of Shenzhou-15's 3rd spacewalk.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #871 on: 04/05/2023 05:36 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!

If there's no space in the freighters, what else can they do? They have a very capable ship, but that means it's not as easily disposable as Progresses might have been in the past, which is what basically supported frequent and abundant trash disposal in long-duration space stations until now.

Certain amounts of trash jettison was common practice in mostly every space station before ISS (not justifying it as good practice, just noting how it was arranged until not very long ago). In fact, unneeded bulky items are regularly jettisoned from ISS both from the USOS and the ROS: an old Orlan filled with waste, external payloads of all kinds, including a ROSA, several experiment packages, MLI bundles, an HTV EP... Good thing about reasonable amounts of crew waste in human-tended LEO is that they have a pretty favorable ballistic coefficient for quick deorbit, and will completely burn up/sublimate away once it does, posing literally no ground hazard.

And again, these are some rumors that were published online - most likely the real reason for the spacewalk was not just "taking out the trash", and if it indeed happened was just a task of opportunity for some particularly cumbersome items.

In any case I have some doubts as to significant pieces of trash being disposed in the last EVAs, if only because I expect the USSF to be able to track all of these things.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #872 on: 04/05/2023 05:57 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!

This has been a regular practice on the ISS.  Thermal covers, broken equipment, and other small items have been "tossed overboard" by spacewalking astronauts.  The Roll Out Solar Panel test article was also ejected from the ISS after the deployment tests were completed.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #873 on: 04/05/2023 06:02 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!

This has been done multiple times on the ISS.  Old MMOD blankets, thermal covers, broken equipment, and other small items have been "tossed overboard" by spacewalking astronauts.  The Roll Out Solar Panel test article was also ejected from the ISS after the deployment tests were completed.

I had no idea because the returning cargo spacecraft was always carrying a full load of trash for disposal. Shuttle did it, Soyuz did/does it and I've been assuming that Dragon did/does it. Disappointed.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #874 on: 04/05/2023 06:35 pm »
I would be extremely disappointed with the Chinese if they simply jettisoned their trash into open space.
EXTREMELY disappointed!

This has been done multiple times on the ISS.  Old MMOD blankets, thermal covers, broken equipment, and other small items have been "tossed overboard" by spacewalking astronauts.  The Roll Out Solar Panel test article was also ejected from the ISS after the deployment tests were completed.

I had no idea because the returning cargo spacecraft was always carrying a full load of trash for disposal. Shuttle did it, Soyuz did/does it and I've been assuming that Dragon did/does it. Disappointed.

Nanoracks have even designed a trash bag system to allow trash to be dumped overboard through their ISS Bishop Airlock, with a successful demo carried out in July last year.

See: https://nanoracks.com/nanoracks-bishop-airlock-enables-responsible-waste-disposal/
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #875 on: 04/06/2023 06:00 am »

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #876 on: 04/07/2023 05:59 pm »
As far as I know the Mengtian module is equipped with a micro-satellite in-orbit release mechanism. I found this philatelic enveloppe commemorating the release of small satellites from the Mengtian module. My Chinese friend told me that this event never happend and the cover remained un-postmarked. Unfortunately I do not know for which date the satellite release was planed. Do we have some more information?

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #877 on: 04/11/2023 10:22 am »
https://twitter.com/wulei2020/status/1645732090745589760

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Hey guys. Taikonaut #YeGuangfu says welcome to China Space Station. Here comes my 1/4 of exclusive interview with Taikonaut Ye Guangfu of Shenzhou 13 manned mission. He spent 183 days in China's Space Station from Oct 2021 to April 2022. How is his training right now? Take a look

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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #878 on: 04/11/2023 12:51 pm »
https://twitter.com/wulei2020/status/1645767084490756097

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There are countless unforgettable moments during #Shenzhou13 crew‘s 183 days staying aboard China Space Station. For taikonaut Ye Guangfu, the most impressive one was his first spacewalk. He described what he had seen, felt and thought to me.
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Re: Tiangong - Chinese Space Station
« Reply #879 on: 04/11/2023 07:41 pm »
twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1645836025976221700

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👀 New episode: @TiangongStation China Space Station needs more storage!

https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1645838005553500160

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Beautiful view of Earth through the porthole though, passing over Taklamakan Desert and Tibetan Plateau

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