Quote from: TJL on 03/11/2023 01:14 amQuote from: jmt27 on 03/10/2023 11:19 pmQuote from: TJL on 03/10/2023 11:09 pmAnnouncement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth – Johnson Space Center.Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission. This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?https://www.facebook.com/events/1116307635992277/?ref=newsfeedJust confirmed with NASA -- and I don't know where the original info came from, though that Facebook entry makes it seem official -- only the prime crew will be announced on April 3. Michael Cassutt
Quote from: jmt27 on 03/10/2023 11:19 pmQuote from: TJL on 03/10/2023 11:09 pmAnnouncement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth – Johnson Space Center.Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission. This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?https://www.facebook.com/events/1116307635992277/?ref=newsfeed
Quote from: TJL on 03/10/2023 11:09 pmAnnouncement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth – Johnson Space Center.Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission. This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?
Announcement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth – Johnson Space Center.Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission. This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.
The four currently active Canadian astronauts are rookies Joshua Kutryk, Jennifer Sidey-Gibbons, Jeremy Hansen, and veteran David Saint-Jacques. My guess is that it's Jeremy Hansen who became an astronaut in 2011. He is the first Canadian astronaut to train NASA astronauts. David Saint Jacques has already flown and with so few available flight assignments it's likely they will let another get flight experience. Kutryk and Sidey-Gibbons are too green, only being in the astronaut office since 2020. I'm certain our PM would be rooting for a Canadian woman to fly, but, I don't think the Americans want the first woman to fly to the moon to be a non-American, and one of their astronauts will have that distinction.
Quote from: Michael Cassutt on 03/21/2023 03:09 pmQuote from: TJL on 03/11/2023 01:14 amQuote from: jmt27 on 03/10/2023 11:19 pmQuote from: TJL on 03/10/2023 11:09 pmAnnouncement of the crew to fly on the Artemis II mission around the Moon and back to Earth – Johnson Space Center.Artemis 2 (officially Artemis II) is the second scheduled mission of NASA's Artemis program and the first scheduled crewed mission of NASA's Orion spacecraft, currently planned to be launched by the Space Launch System (SLS) in November 2024.The crewed Orion spacecraft will perform a lunar flyby test and return to Earth. This is planned to be the first crewed spacecraft to travel beyond low Earth orbit since Apollo 17 in 1972. Formerly known as Exploration Mission-2 (EM-2), the mission was renamed after introducing the Artemis program. The crewed mission initially intended to collect samples from a captured asteroid in lunar orbit by the now-canceled robotic Asteroid Redirect Mission. This is also planned to be the first crewed launch from LC-39B since STS-116.NASA will introduce the primary and backup crew for Artemis II. It is to be expected that the crew will consist of 3 NASA astronauts and one CSA astronaut from the Canadian Space Agency.Following the NASA routine, the backup crew is expected to launch with Artemis III and land on the Moon.If what you mention is true, I doubt NASA will announce the backup crew for Artemis II as this would unveil who will be flying on Artemis III, which is by far the most important mission. I don't think the backup crew will be the ones flying on Artemis III. This isn't a typical ISS mission. Objectives for Artemis II and III are very different. BTW where did you get this info?https://www.facebook.com/events/1116307635992277/?ref=newsfeedJust confirmed with NASA -- and I don't know where the original info came from, though that Facebook entry makes it seem official -- only the prime crew will be announced on April 3. Michael Cassutt Michael we know the crew of the first two starliner missions have been announced with the exception of one crew member on the first crewed mission, I keep hearing starliner 1’s maiden voyage has been pushed back to next year, the Boeing crewed flight test they said would launch no earlier than July 21st. Have they announced the crew of space x crew 8, or when they’ll announce it, I wonder if they’ll announce it after crew 7 launches, cuz I keep reading and hearing through the grapevine due to tingle, fincke & Epps flight being pushed back that crew 8 was gonna fly first what’s the deal with that. If that’s true or not. Again I get spacefacts isn’t a reliable source, that I get, but Ik one Russian cosmonaut has been announced for crew 8 they just haven’t announced the other 3 crew members.
Quote from: Steve G on 03/31/2023 05:04 pmThe four currently active Canadian astronauts are rookies Joshua Kutryk, Jennifer Sidey-Gibbons, Jeremy Hansen, and veteran David Saint-Jacques. My guess is that it's Jeremy Hansen who became an astronaut in 2011. He is the first Canadian astronaut to train NASA astronauts. David Saint Jacques has already flown and with so few available flight assignments it's likely they will let another get flight experience. Kutryk and Sidey-Gibbons are too green, only being in the astronaut office since 2020. I'm certain our PM would be rooting for a Canadian woman to fly, but, I don't think the Americans want the first woman to fly to the moon to be a non-American, and one of their astronauts will have that distinction. Sidey Gibbons will prolly either be on this mission Artemis 2 or Artemis 4 or 5. That’s my theory.
Given that NASA just announced the new CFT launch date of July 21 and that all attention is on the Artemis II reveal this Monday, it shouldn't be a surprise that information on Starliner-1 and Crew-8 is still to come. Many informed sources, on NSF and elsewhere, have noted that Boeing and NASA almost certainly need a year's gap between CFT and Starliner-1, so I would expect that change to be made official any time after April 3.
Quote from: Michael Cassutt on 03/31/2023 07:13 pmGiven that NASA just announced the new CFT launch date of July 21 and that all attention is on the Artemis II reveal this Monday, it shouldn't be a surprise that information on Starliner-1 and Crew-8 is still to come. Many informed sources, on NSF and elsewhere, have noted that Boeing and NASA almost certainly need a year's gap between CFT and Starliner-1, so I would expect that change to be made official any time after April 3.I had not heard about the one-year gap. I was expecting something closer to what Space-X had. Thanks!
I would think the Apollo designations would be used, perhaps slightly modified (LLP for Lunar Lander Pilot rather than LMP), with the Mission Specialists staying in orbit tasked with a suite of observations. One MS might become a Crew Module Pilot to run things in orbit with another MS being more science-oriented. So my guess is CDR, LLP, CMP, MS.
