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Andor | Season 2 Trailer
« on: 02/24/2025 04:38 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: 02/24/2025 04:46 pm »
I have not watched season 1 despite having heard rave reviews. I figure I will watch it just before S2 is available in April. But I do like that they're including characters from Rogue One. Although I liked Rogue One a lot, it has its problems, including some characters who are a bit difficult to understand. What are they doing in the Rebellion? Andor can now provide a lot more context of how those people ended up where they did doing what they did.

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« Reply #2 on: 02/24/2025 11:04 pm »
I have not watched season 1 despite having heard rave reviews. I figure I will watch it just before S2 is available in April. But I do like that they're including characters from Rogue One. Although I liked Rogue One a lot, it has its problems, including some characters who are a bit difficult to understand. What are they doing in the Rebellion? Andor can now provide a lot more context of how those people ended up where they did doing what they did.

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There are 12 episodes grouped into sets of three, each lasting around 50 minutes. Instead of watching them individually, plan for a viewing session of 2.5 to 3 hours. I recommend starting to watch one set each weekend four weeks before the launch of Season 2.
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« Reply #3 on: 02/24/2025 11:46 pm »
I have not watched season 1 despite having heard rave reviews. I figure I will watch it just before S2 is available in April. But I do like that they're including characters from Rogue One. Although I liked Rogue One a lot, it has its problems, including some characters who are a bit difficult to understand. What are they doing in the Rebellion? Andor can now provide a lot more context of how those people ended up where they did doing what they did.

Yes, we're now getting Alan Tudyk as buddy K2SO, and Ben Mendelsohn as villain Orson Krennic, as well as Forest Whitaker as radical rebel faction leader Saw Guerrera

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« Reply #4 on: 02/25/2025 12:45 am »
I have not watched season 1 despite having heard rave reviews. I figure I will watch it just before S2 is available in April. But I do like that they're including characters from Rogue One. Although I liked Rogue One a lot, it has its problems, including some characters who are a bit difficult to understand. What are they doing in the Rebellion? Andor can now provide a lot more context of how those people ended up where they did doing what they did.

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This is a well-crafted and produced adult version of Star Wars, and it’s finally here.

There are 12 episodes grouped into sets of three, each lasting around 50 minutes. Instead of watching them individually, plan for a viewing session of 2.5 to 3 hours. I recommend starting to watch one set each weekend four weeks before the launch of Season 2.

I have heard many raves. I do not doubt them. I don't have a good reason for not watching S1 other than I felt burned by Star Wars with The Force Awakens and then the rapid decline in quality of The Mandalorian. So although I know that Andor is much better, my soul was wary.

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« Reply #5 on: 02/25/2025 12:47 am »
Yes, we're now getting Alan Tudyk as buddy K2SO, and Ben Mendelsohn as villain Orson Krennic, as well as Forest Whitaker as radical rebel faction leader Saw Guerrera

Krennic was in many ways a brilliant villain in Rogue One. I'm glad we will get more of him. Saw struck me as a guy who had fought so long he had gone crazy. But maybe he was always crazy.

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« Reply #6 on: 02/25/2025 12:55 am »
Yes, we're now getting Alan Tudyk as buddy K2SO, and Ben Mendelsohn as villain Orson Krennic, as well as Forest Whitaker as radical rebel faction leader Saw Guerrera

Krennic was in many ways a brilliant villain in Rogue One. I'm glad we will get more of him. Saw struck me as a guy who had fought so long he had gone crazy. But maybe he was always crazy.

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

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« Reply #7 on: 02/25/2025 01:00 am »
I have not watched season 1 despite having heard rave reviews. I figure I will watch it just before S2 is available in April. But I do like that they're including characters from Rogue One. Although I liked Rogue One a lot, it has its problems, including some characters who are a bit difficult to understand. What are they doing in the Rebellion? Andor can now provide a lot more context of how those people ended up where they did doing what they did.

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This is a well-crafted and produced adult version of Star Wars, and it’s finally here.

There are 12 episodes grouped into sets of three, each lasting around 50 minutes. Instead of watching them individually, plan for a viewing session of 2.5 to 3 hours. I recommend starting to watch one set each weekend four weeks before the launch of Season 2.

I have heard many raves. I do not doubt them. I don't have a good reason for not watching S1 other than I felt burned by Star Wars with The Force Awakens and then the rapid decline in quality of The Mandalorian. So although I know that Andor is much better, my soul was wary.

You will not be disappointed. Forget the sequels; if you like Rogue One, then this is even better. It's a completely different Ditrector.
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« Reply #8 on: 02/25/2025 02:48 am »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?

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« Reply #9 on: 02/25/2025 02:57 am »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?


Initially on the Clone Wars animation "A War on Two Fronts", October 6, 2012
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story premiered on December 10, 2016
Then Rebels, Ghosts of Geonosis," which is part of Season 3, Episodes 11 and 12, January 7, 2017
Then BB Season 1: "Aftermath," which premiered on May 4, 2021, and "Battle Scars," which premiered on June 11, 2021
BB Season 2: "Paths Unknown," which premiered on February 21, 2024
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« Reply #10 on: 02/25/2025 04:13 am »
I, too, was let down by the sequel series.  To be fair, as a jaded know-it-all 15 year old I was disappointed by my heroes needing the help of teddy bears to beat the Empire in Return of the Jedi.  The Mandalorian, for me, started off great, but devolved as the series went on - even though I enjoyed The Clone Wars and Rebels animated series that the later seasons incorporated.  I did like Rouge One, even Solo, not enough to keep me an engaged fan of the franchise.  Ahsoka is ok, Skeleton Crew was actually pretty fun, and the other show isn't worth naming for me.  But Andor was very, very different.  It's been referred to as Star Wars for grown-ups, but many grown-ups enjoy all Star Wars.  What set it apart for me is that it is a fantastic piece of story telling that stands up to any piece of work, this one just happens to be Star Wars.  Top to bottom this show hits everything for me: writing, direction, acting (the casting director deserves an Emmy), set design, cinematography, score, effects, pacing - everything I can think of was spot on.  I'm rarely moved by fictional entertainment, but I certainly was by this show.  You can take the Star Wars out and the show would be incredible in any setting.  I don't recall being completely riveted by a simple conversation as I have with this show.  Season 2 looks like it'll have a slightly different feel judging by this first trailer, and I'm ok with that.  They've had to compress 5 years of events into 2 seasons, and season 2 is the last 4 years (that's why it's broken out into 4 sets of 3 episodes).  Waiting for season 2 of Andor is the only reason I kept my Disney+ subscription active.  If you haven't seen season 1, my bet is you'll find it recreational time well spent.

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« Reply #11 on: 02/25/2025 04:16 am »
And Season 2 is the final season, which will conclude this series, as it takes us up to the events of the Rogue One movie.

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« Reply #12 on: 02/25/2025 12:40 pm »
I, too, was let down by the sequel series.  To be fair, as a jaded know-it-all 15 year old I was disappointed by my heroes needing the help of teddy bears to beat the Empire in Return of the Jedi.

Ah yes, just about everybody who was there at the time had that same experience--waiting three years after Empire in anticipation for Return, getting in the theater, and then gradually feeling all the hope and expectation fade like a leak in an airbed.

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« Reply #13 on: 02/25/2025 12:56 pm »
Season one took a bit to get going, but yes it definitely seems like "Star Wars for adults".  On the second try we're now onto episode 4 (I think?) but it's slow going--the only chance we have to watch is after our son goes to bed but before my wife falls asleep, so that's a 20-30 minute window. 

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« Reply #14 on: 02/25/2025 06:35 pm »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?


Initially on the Clone Wars animation "A War on Two Fronts", October 6, 2012
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story premiered on December 10, 2016
Then Rebels, Ghosts of Geonosis," which is part of Season 3, Episodes 11 and 12, January 7, 2017
Then BB Season 1: "Aftermath," which premiered on May 4, 2021, and "Battle Scars," which premiered on June 11, 2021
BB Season 2: "Paths Unknown," which premiered on February 21, 2024

Okay, so have they explained what his deal is? Was he always a bit of a nut, or was he driven nutty by the war?

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« Reply #15 on: 02/25/2025 08:07 pm »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?


Initially on the Clone Wars animation "A War on Two Fronts", October 6, 2012
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story premiered on December 10, 2016
Then Rebels, Ghosts of Geonosis," which is part of Season 3, Episodes 11 and 12, January 7, 2017
Then BB Season 1: "Aftermath," which premiered on May 4, 2021, and "Battle Scars," which premiered on June 11, 2021
BB Season 2: "Paths Unknown," which premiered on February 21, 2024

Okay, so have they explained what his deal is? Was he always a bit of a nut, or was he driven nutty by the war?

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Yes, his life is documented in all those series and is clearly explained.

During the Clone Wars, Saw Gerrera emerged as a hero dedicated to saving his planet from the Separatists. However, he suffered a tragic loss when his sister died due to the conflict. This event drove him towards the dark side, and he gradually became more militant. When he discovered that the Empire was manipulating both sides of the war, he became determined to undermine the Empire in any way he could.

In "The Bad Batch," Saw is seen helping refugees escape from the Empire. In "Rebels," he embarks on a mission to uncover the source of what the Empire is building—the Death Star. He learns that a massive Kyber crystal is powering it and finds evidence that the Geonosians, who initially constructed the Death Star, were exterminated by the Empire using toxic gas to cover up their operations. This traumatic experience resulted in lung damage for Saw, further intensifying his militant approach.

In the first season of Andor, we see Saw begin to recruit his own militants and try to find out what Luthen is up to.

In "Rebels," Saw argues with Mon Mothma about his aggressive tactics in fighting the Empire, which contrasts with the more subdued efforts of the Rebel Alliance. Finally, in "Rogue One," we see an older, weary, and dying Saw, reliant on a breathing machine.

His life is a poignant reminder of a once-great warrior who could have achieved so much more. 

A great but highly underrated Star Wars character. 

You need to start watching the animated series. They explain characters like Sabine, Ahsoka, Hera Syndulla, Ezra, Mon Mothma, and so many others we see in the original trilogy and Rouge One. In live-action, you might see these characters, but their backstories are often not explained unless you've taken the time to watch all the animated series beforehand.

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« Reply #16 on: 02/25/2025 11:11 pm »
FWIW, I've only seen ROGUE ONE but I don't feel I really needed to understand Saw's complete backstory to appreciate the character in ANDOR.

IMHO, ANDOR is the best Star Wars since ESB.  I literally stayed up until midnight to see the last episode of season 1 the second it was released, and was not disappointed.

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« Reply #17 on: 02/25/2025 11:28 pm »
FWIW, I've only seen ROGUE ONE but I don't feel I really needed to understand Saw's complete backstory to appreciate the character in ANDOR.

IMHO, ANDOR is the best Star Wars since ESB.  I literally stayed up until midnight to see the last episode of season 1 the second it was released and I was not disappointed.

Absolutely ccdengr.

Saw's appearance provides additional depth and issues with getting the rebellion to focus on the same goal and how it may derail Luthen's plans. Saw's mentality certainly didn't help Mon Motha's efforts. In the Last season of Bad Batch, Saw was indirectly responsible for Tec's death. It wouldn't surprise me that Saw will indirectly affect Luthen and possibly be accountable for his demise.

Although Luthen and Keno's monologue in the Prison Break episode was epic, I agree with your second comment; Marve's monologue was priceless and set up the rebellion on a public level. Watching Brasso hit the tropper with a brick was well worth waiting for.
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« Reply #18 on: 03/04/2025 03:04 pm »
R1/Andor is my favorite part of the entire SW universe.   Noting else comes close. 

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« Reply #20 on: 03/11/2025 01:05 pm »
This is rather interesting--the reason he is not putting out his scripts is that he is concerned that they will be absorbed by AI and used to produce derivative products. Makes sense.

https://gizmodo.com/tony-gilroy-has-the-perfect-reason-his-andor-scripts-werent-released-2000574015


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« Reply #21 on: 04/30/2025 02:15 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

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« Reply #22 on: 04/30/2025 02:22 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

Isn't it? I binge-watch it on Friday nights and finished week two last night. It's exciting and well-written, a thriller.
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« Reply #23 on: 04/30/2025 02:31 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

Isn't it? I binge-watch it on Friday nights and finished week two last night. It's exciting and well-written, a thriller.

Yup. And episode 6 ended in an interesting way (avoiding spoilers here). Andor had earlier told Luthen "You will help me" and we ultimately saw how that happened.

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« Reply #24 on: 04/30/2025 03:19 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

Isn't it? I binge-watch it on Friday nights and finished week two last night. It's exciting and well-written, a thriller.

Yup. And episode 6 ended in an interesting way (avoiding spoilers here). Andor had earlier told Luthen "You will help me" and we ultimately saw how that happened.

Most Satisfying ending.
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« Reply #25 on: 04/30/2025 04:43 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

Isn't it? I binge-watch it on Friday nights and finished week two last night. It's exciting and well-written, a thriller.

Yup. And episode 6 ended in an interesting way (avoiding spoilers here). Andor had earlier told Luthen "You will help me" and we ultimately saw how that happened.

Most Satisfying ending.

Yes. One of the themes of the show has been the struggles of the cause (the rebellion) and still maintaining relationships. Luthen has often taken a hard line, that the cause is everything and you should be willing to sacrifice the people around you for the cause.

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« Reply #26 on: 04/30/2025 06:22 pm »
I binge-watched season 1 over the weekend, and then caught up on season 2's 6 episodes in the past couple of days. It is an outstanding show.

Isn't it? I binge-watch it on Friday nights and finished week two last night. It's exciting and well-written, a thriller.

Yup. And episode 6 ended in an interesting way (avoiding spoilers here). Andor had earlier told Luthen "You will help me" and we ultimately saw how that happened.

Most Satisfying ending.

Yes. One of the themes of the show has been the struggles of the cause (the rebellion) and still maintaining relationships. Luthen has often taken a hard line, that the cause is everything and you should be willing to sacrifice the people around you for the cause.

Relationships (along with "Family") have been a long-running issue or topic with Star Wars. Jedi are prohibited from having relationships, and in this series, it seems the opposite is needed: the pairing of talent and its impact when that relationship is lost. There are so many levels of issues that this series is dealing with; it floors me how well the writers have assembled this in a cohesive fashion, and the parallels between each side make this show astounding. I've never seen such great writing for a Star Wars "anything." 
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« Reply #27 on: 04/30/2025 08:21 pm »
I've always found Star Wars to be rather simplistic. I know people argue that it deals with deep issues, but I have always found it to be superficial. I prefer Star Trek, which I know has sometimes been silly and stupid, but on many occasions has aimed to address big issues.

Andor, however, really is a show for adults. It's not only the themes, but the way it tells the stories. It doesn't feed the audience everything, you have to figure things out on your own. That final scene in episode 6 that just dropped last night, for instance, requires a lot of thought. You have to piece certain things together and then you realize how that happened and who was involved. I don't want to spoil it here, but maybe will discuss it after the next episodes drop.

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« Reply #28 on: 05/01/2025 12:31 am »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?


Initially on the Clone Wars animation "A War on Two Fronts", October 6, 2012
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story premiered on December 10, 2016
Then Rebels, Ghosts of Geonosis," which is part of Season 3, Episodes 11 and 12, January 7, 2017
Then BB Season 1: "Aftermath," which premiered on May 4, 2021, and "Battle Scars," which premiered on June 11, 2021
BB Season 2: "Paths Unknown," which premiered on February 21, 2024

"You think I'm crazy?"

Note: spoilers here, but there is a good explanation for why Saw is the way he is. And a good discussion of the politics of rebellion.



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« Reply #29 on: 05/01/2025 03:22 am »

Saw was in Clone Wars, Rebels and Bad Batch Animated TV shows. He transferred to Live Action and continued his story tere before Rogue One

Was he in Rogue One first, then those other shows?


Initially on the Clone Wars animation "A War on Two Fronts", October 6, 2012
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story premiered on December 10, 2016
Then Rebels, Ghosts of Geonosis," which is part of Season 3, Episodes 11 and 12, January 7, 2017
Then BB Season 1: "Aftermath," which premiered on May 4, 2021, and "Battle Scars," which premiered on June 11, 2021
BB Season 2: "Paths Unknown," which premiered on February 21, 2024

"You think I'm crazy?"

Note: spoilers here, but there is a good explanation for why Saw is the way he is. And a good discussion of the politics of rebellion.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=2kBC5v8HQXw

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« Reply #30 on: 05/01/2025 01:08 pm »
Allen's channel is my best "level-headed" reviewer.

I've seen his channel a bit. It's a weird variation of geekiness. I do think this review had some great insights, including that the kid was probably the most likely to go full radical. If you look at Cassian, he's actually thoughtful, methodical. Watch how many times he is in a new situation and he looks around, watches people, doesn't say anything. He's observing and planning. And that's what he does on Gorman, he observes and then makes an assessment. The kid, however, got involved in the cause as revenge, and took a very violent path (building his own bomb). So he is more likely to go to extremes.


Some other great insights:

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« Reply #31 on: 05/01/2025 06:00 pm »
Allen's channel is my best "level-headed" reviewer.

I've seen his channel a bit. It's a weird variation of geekiness. I do think this review had some great insights, including that the kid was probably the most likely to go full radical. If you look at Cassian, he's actually thoughtful, methodical. Watch how many times he is in a new situation and he looks around, watches people, doesn't say anything. He's observing and planning. And that's what he does on Gorman, he observes and then makes an assessment. The kid, however, got involved in the cause as revenge, and took a very violent path (building his own bomb). So he is more likely to go to extremes.

Yes, as Erik Voss detailed in his review of the kid.
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« Reply #33 on: 05/04/2025 09:22 pm »
And more about Saw:

https://gizmodo.com/andor-season-2-saw-gerrera-rhydo-scene-star-wars-2000597588


I was surprised they didn't have him say, "I love the smell of Ridomium in the morning."
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« Reply #34 on: 05/06/2025 05:32 pm »
And more about Saw:

https://gizmodo.com/andor-season-2-saw-gerrera-rhydo-scene-star-wars-2000597588


I was surprised they didn't have him say, "I love the smell of Ridomium in the morning."

Nah, they should give a line like that to Bill Burr instead.

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« Reply #35 on: 05/08/2025 09:23 am »
Apparently episode eight is already one of the highest rated episodes of TV ever on IMDb.

Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

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« Reply #36 on: 05/08/2025 10:11 am »
Apparently episode eight is already one of the highest rated episodes of TV ever on IMDb.

Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

I just found some time to watch all three this early morning. WOW.  Fully agree, the suspense and the Music were killing me and kept me on edge.  Great stuff.
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« Reply #37 on: 05/08/2025 11:56 am »
Apparently episode eight is already one of the highest rated episodes of TV ever on IMDb.

Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

I just found some time to watch all three this early morning. WOW.  Fully agree, the suspense and the Music were killing me and kept me on edge.  Great stuff.
Andor is the only SW property that consistently makes the empire and its operatives symbols of terror that they should be. I mean stormtroopers and TIE fighters are portrayed as genuinely terrifying, let alone the droids this week. Even the bit with a certain character in a room with them was unsettling.
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« Reply #38 on: 05/08/2025 02:11 pm »
There are some good commentaries on the recent episodes on YouTube. I'll post them here eventually, but I don't want to spoil anything for people. (Yeah, if you click on this Andor thread, you are risking spoilers, but I still hope that people just watch without being spoiled.)

One interesting commentary was that the show is exploring the different levels of "evil" as well as the different forms of rebellion.

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« Reply #39 on: 05/08/2025 03:10 pm »
There are some good commentaries on the recent episodes on YouTube. I'll post them here eventually, but I don't want to spoil anything for people. (Yeah, if you click on this Andor thread, you are risking spoilers, but I still hope that people just watch without being spoiled.)

One interesting commentary was that the show is exploring the different levels of "evil" as well as the different forms of rebellion.

I have my commentary videos stored in a playlist, but I am waiting for my patient to go to sleep so I can view them.
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Re: Andor | Season 2 Trailer
« Reply #40 on: 05/09/2025 02:52 pm »
Apparently episode eight is already one of the highest rated episodes of TV ever on IMDb.

Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

I just found some time to watch all three this early morning. WOW.  Fully agree, the suspense and the Music were killing me and kept me on edge.  Great stuff.

Same, I watched them last night. Wow. Just Wow. Not just some of the best Star Wars ever (if they stick the landing on the final three episodes, I'm going to have to admit that they did better than Empire Strikes Back), but also rock solid even if you knew nothing about Star Wars. Powerful.

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« Reply #41 on: 05/09/2025 11:03 pm »
This is a great edit. Note that it has spoilers, so don't watch it unless you are up to date:





Also: https://gizmodo.com/heres-why-rogue-ones-rebellions-are-built-on-hope-got-its-payoff-in-andor-2000600363

(The comments on that article are hilarious.)
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« Reply #42 on: 05/10/2025 04:03 am »
I agree, and I have that in my playlist.  Here is my submission for a Fan edit of Mon Mothma's Speech.

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« Reply #43 on: 05/10/2025 10:39 am »
And more about Saw:

https://gizmodo.com/andor-season-2-saw-gerrera-rhydo-scene-star-wars-2000597588

I was surprised they didn't have him say, "I love the smell of Ridomium in the morning."

Nah, they should give a line like that to Bill Burr instead.

I just wanted to further express explicit appreciation that they made that self-referential callback with rhydonium, which gave me a flashback to that Mandalorian episode which had Bill Burr guest-starring / co-starring along with Pedro Pasquale (Mando).

Which seems to be the origin of the material, as a macguffin or plot device to place our hero Mando in a tactical box, putting him in a predicament where he's forced to fight under severely challenging circumstances.



There are some good commentaries on the recent episodes on YouTube. I'll post them here eventually, but I don't want to spoil anything for people. (Yeah, if you click on this Andor thread, you are risking spoilers, but I still hope that people just watch without being spoiled.)

Can we just have a separate full-on spoiler discussion thread to discuss everything in more detail, please?

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One interesting commentary was that the show is exploring the different levels of "evil" as well as the different forms of rebellion.

Not trying to derail, but since you brought it up....



I got some good feels out of that scene.
Satisfaction at Imperial Navy TIE fighters swooping in to the rescue, blowing the crap out of rebel assailants who were trying to cut off resupply to that Imperial forward base.
Appreciation of stormtroopers blowing away the on-rushing attackers at point-blank range, showing they could aim for once.
Grateful stormtroopers showing their admiration and respect oward Mando & Mayfeld for having brought much-needed supplies (the aforementioned rhydonium) to relieve their beseiged base.
The rousing display of camaraderie greeting the victors with cheers as they roll into the base.

Hurray for the... good guys? The not-so-evil Empire?
It was a very novel and refreshing take on the Star Wars universe, challenging the dominant traditional narrative.
An example of good storytelling.

Twark Main, you doing that Unreliable Narrator thing again, with Star Wars Huck Finn?
Mandalorian does have that usefully aloof unattached quality for that purpose, doesn't he?

Andor, by contrast, is a committed rebel, and his adversaries are portrayed in a way that shows why.

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« Reply #44 on: 05/10/2025 11:43 pm »
Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

I was on the fence about Andor season 2 after the first half of the season. I still don't know what the point was of Cassian with his TIE fighter with the rather dumb rebels at the beginning, for example. So I haven't made it Appointment Viewing. That all changed, I watched Episodes 7, 8 and 9 straight through. Simply superb television!
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« Reply #45 on: 05/11/2025 02:01 am »
with the rather dumb rebels at the beginning, for example. 

The series is how rebellions grow, and the show has demonstrated that they're not linear or logical--all the people fighting the Empire have their own reasons, come to it from their own backgrounds, and may not be fighting for the same cause. As we have seen with Saw, he's crazy, paranoid, but that does not mean that he's wrong.

The rebels in the jungle fought each other because they could not agree on a leader. That's just a mini-story in the overall bigger arc of the series.

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« Reply #46 on: 05/11/2025 02:34 pm »
Absolutely gripping set of episodes. Incredible piece of TV and probably some of the best SW has ever been.

I was on the fence about Andor season 2 after the first half of the season. I still don't know what the point was of Cassian with his TIE fighter with the rather dumb rebels at the beginning, for example. So I haven't made it Appointment Viewing. That all changed, I watched Episodes 7, 8 and 9 straight through. Simply superb television!


I think it was an illustration of how a key guy like Andor could be snagged and held up by low-level dumbasses who don't know their elbow from their ass. Good help is hard to find. Just imagine if he'd been carrying the plans to the Death Star when this crap befell him.

During that segment, we see contrasting emphasis between an experienced hand like Cassian, who remained stoic and practical in conserving his energy and resources while being held captive, as opposed to his captors who were amateur idiots unable to even control their tempers toward one another.


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