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Thread for the Starlink 3-2 group launch from Vandenberg Space Force Base.

NSF Threads for Starlink 3-2: Discussion

Launch July 22, 2022 17:39 UTC (10:39 am PDT), from SLC-4E, Vandenberg SFB, California, on booster 1071-4.  Successful first stage landing is aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload is 46 Starlink satellites to 97.6° degree inclination on a south-southwestern trajectory.  Initial orbit 308 x 321 km.

Starlink v1.5 satellite mass is now about 300kg after the addition of laser ISL terminals.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

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From an early Starlink mission's Press Kit:

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Each Starlink satellite weights approximately 260 kg and features a compact, flat-panel design that minimizes volume, allowing for a dense launch stack to take full advantage of Falcon 9’s launch capabilities. With four powerful phased array and two parabolic antennas on each satellite ... At end of their life cycle, the satellites will utilize their on-board propulsion system to deorbit over the course of a few months. In the unlikely event their propulsion system becomes inoperable, the satellites will burn up in Earth’s atmosphere within 1-5 years, significantly less than the hundreds or thousands of years required at higher altitudes. Further, Starlink components are designed for full demisability.

Starlink is targeting service to near global coverage of the populated world by 2021. Additional information on the system can be found at starlink.com.
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Cross-post:
Added a bunch of upcoming SpaceX launches to NextSpaceflight and some booster assignments. https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/agency/upcoming/1/
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And then in July and sort of in this order:
Starlink Group 3-1 from Vandenberg (betting on using B1063 for this one)
Starlink Group 4-21 from Florida (I'd say pad 40 is likely) using B1058-13
Starlink Group 4-22 from Florida (likely to be 39A imo)
Starlink Group 3-2 from Vandy (likely to use B1071 imo)
Starlink Group 4-25 from Florida (betting all my money on pad 40 for this one) using B1051-13
I'm expecting B1071 to be used on SARah-1 [1071.3], then on Group 3-2 about a month or so later [1071.4].

Edit: Well, that or we see them using a different booster than 63 or 71 but I doubt it.

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Operations NET July 14; posted June 15:
1058-EX-ST-2022
SpaceX Mission 1604 Starlink Group 3-2 from SLC-4E
ASDS North  29  0  50   West  121  47  9
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Cross-posts:
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6797
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Starlink Group 3-1
Launch Time
Mon Jul 11, 2022 01:00 GMT

Nextspaceflight indicates that [Starlink 3-3] is in [NET] August.

Starlink 3-2 should therefore be NET end of July or the beginning of August.
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Starlink 3-2 should therefore be NET end of July or the beginning of August.

Cross-post; Starlink 3-2 NET August:
Confirmation of what we already figured out:
SFN SpaceX to continue Starlink network deployment with Thursday launch, July 6
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The launch Thursday — the 28th SpaceX mission this year — is the first of five Falcon 9 missions scheduled for July. They include three more Starlink missions later this month, plus the launch of a Dragon cargo ship to the International Space Station on July 14.
Starlinks: 4-21, 3-1, 4-22, 4-25
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Vandenberg orbital launches in the near future:

2022 Launched:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

July 22 NET Dec 2021/NLT Jan 2022 Jan NET Feb NET Mar NET Apr NET May TBD NET Jul late Jul/NET Jul 14 NET end of Jul early? Aug 21 - Starlink 3-2 2-6 2-TBD TBD (x46 x51? xTBD) (flight 53 TBD/polar flight 2 high inclination flight 6 polar flight 4?) [v1.5 L23 v2.0 L6 L6 L-TBD] - Falcon 9-166 (1071.4 OCISLY ASDS) - Vandenberg SLC-4E - 17:39:40 Jul 21 17:13 Jul 21 17:39:40
(polar launch: launch time invariant/day)

2022 Scheduled:
Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

Early August NET Jul 31/NET Aug early Aug - Starlink 3-3 (x46 xTBD) (flight 54 TBD/polar flight 3) [v1.5 L25 L-TBD] - Falcon 9-169 (1063.7 OCISLY) - Vandenberg SLC-4E
(polar launch: launch time invariant/day)

NET August 17 - Starlink 3-4 (x46) (flight TBD/polar flight 4) [v1.5 L-TBD] - Falcon 9 (1071.5 OCISLY) - Vandenberg SLC-4E
(polar launch: launch time invariant/day)

August NLT Q3 ~~August 1 - NROL-91 (KH-11/Crystal #19) (TBD) - Delta IV-Heavy [D-387] - SLC-6

Late August/September NET May 2021 late 2021 NET Dec 2021 NET Jan 31 2022 late Jan TBD NET Mar NET Apr May NET Jun NET Jul 17 TBD summer/NET Sep late Aug/early Sept - ALS mission 1: Carbonite 4 (CBNT 4), GENESIS-G & J, QUBIK-3/4/5/6, Sapling-1, Spinnaker3 hosted payload - Alpha (FLTA002) - Vandenberg SLC-2W
(retrograde, mid-inclination orbit)

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If there are to be 5 launches then 3-2 does seem the likely one to be slipping to August as 11th July +record 22 day turnaround makes it look like Aug.

but can we rule out East coast range closure for up to a couple of weeks at end of July? If that is possible, then 5 could be 7th 11th 15th planned date launches plus 4-22 from pad 40 NET ~16th or so and 3-2 with a record VSFB turnaround.
Would we know about this by now?


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If there are to be 5 launches then 3-2 does seem the likely one to be slipping to August as 11th July +record 22 day turnaround makes it look like Aug.

but can we rule out East coast range closure for up to a couple of weeks at end of July? If that is possible, then 5 could be 7th 11th 15th planned date launches plus 4-22 from pad 40 NET ~16th or so and 3-2 with a record VSFB turnaround.
Would we know about this by now?

Ben Cooper now lists two scheduled Starlink launches in July from Florida, so that seems to confirm 3-2 won't launch until August.

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Probable number of satellites for Starlink 3-2, or a baseline number that could be improved upon in subsequent launches:
46 satellites for Starlink 3-1.
Quote from: TS Kelso tweet
CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 3-1 launch set for 2022-07-11 at 01:39:40 UTC from Vandenberg SFB. Deployment of 46 satellites is set for 02:42:43.760 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.  [July 7]
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Probable number of satellites for, Starlink 3-2, or a baseline number that could be improved upon in subsequent launches:
46 satellites for Starlink 3-1.
Quote from: TS Kelso tweet
CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 3-1 launch set for 2022-07-11 at 01:39:40 UTC from Vandenberg SFB. Deployment of 46 satellites is set for 02:42:43.760 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.  [July 7]

Hopefully, SpaceX will eventually try the full complement of 53 sats for Group 3 launches.

This is pretty much impossible due to the performance loss of launching to the 98.6° inclination.

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It would appear to be 46.

If they manage to pull it off , it will be 6 launches in a month (for the second time). Moving forward , provided that there are atleast 2 launches in a month from VAB. 6 Falcon 9 launches a month will become a Norm https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1547092141456982018

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SpaceX is set to break its pad turnaround record from Vandenberg launching the Starlink Group 3-2 mission next week on July 21st at 10:13am PDT. The company would halve its current record of 23 days shortest turnaround down to 11 days.
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I guarantee that 1071.4 is the first stage.  1063.7 will most likely still be in the Los Angeles area on July 21.  No others are at Vandenberg.

No Static Fire before launch.

Edit July 21: No Static Fire before first launch attempt.

Quote from: Alexphysics 13 tweet
SpaceX is set to break its pad turnaround record from Vandenberg launching the Starlink Group 3-2 mission next week on July 21st at 10:13am PDT. The company would halve its current record of 23 days shortest turnaround down to 11 days. [July 13]

Quote from: Gav Cornwell tweet
OCISLY and B1063 should arrive at the Port of Long Beach, following the Starlink 3-1 mission, on Wednesday evening [July 13] - likely around 7pm PT.

NRC Quest with the fairing halves should return approx 2pm PT today. [July 12]

NextSpaceFlight confirms. [July 13]
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This Hazardous Operations NGA notice appears to the be equivalent of a Rocket Launching notice for this launch.

Quote from: NGA
122225Z JUL 22
NAVAREA XII 472/22(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS 1659Z TO 2229Z DAILY
   21 THRU 24 JUL IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 33-29.00N 120-39.00W, 34-39.00N 120-29.00W,
      34-40.00N 120-41.00W, 32-47.00N 121-13.00W,
      31-44.00N 121-20.00W, 31-43.00N 121-10.00W.
   B. 29-42.00N 121-27.00W, 29-42.00N 121-52.00W,
      28-28.00N 122-10.00W, 28-26.00N 121-41.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 242329Z JUL 22.

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This Hazardous Operations NGA notice appears to the be equivalent of a Rocket Launching notice for this launch.

Map from the Hazardous Operations NGA notice. ASDS about 635km downrange.

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Oops.  Seeing OneSpeed's map caused me to realize that I posted this in the 4-22 topic instead of here.

This Space Debris NGA notice looks like it might be for this launch.

The orientation and location of the Space Debris area does look correct for this mission. Coordinate one is a bit odd though.
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Oops.  Seeing OneSpeed's map caused me to realize that I posted this in the 4-22 topic instead of here.

This Space Debris NGA notice looks like it might be for this launch.

Quote from: NGA
170234Z JUL 22
HYDROPAC 1941/22(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   1920Z TO 2355Z DAILY 21 THRU 24 JUL
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   26-29.00S 157-00.00W, 30-00.00S 157-00.00W,
   30-00.00S 155-20.00W, 59-57.00S 165-13.00W,
   59-30.00S 169-29.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 250055Z JUL 22.


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A cancel-and-replace Space Debris NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
172327Z JUL 22
HYDROPAC 1949/22(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   1920Z TO 2355Z DAILY 21 THRU 24 JUL
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   59-30.00S 169-29.00W, 25-28.00S 156-42.00W,
   25-56.00S 154-18.00W, 59-57.00S 165-13.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 1941/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 250055Z JUL 22.

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A new cancel-and-replace Space Debris NGA notice.  The hazard warning period starts at an earlier time and runs through July 28 instead of July 24.

Quote from: NGA
191923Z JUL 22
HYDROPAC 1970/22(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   1710Z TO 2355Z DAILY 21 THRU 28 JUL
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   59-30.00S 169-29.00W, 25-28.00S 156-42.00W,
   25-56.00S 154-18.00W, 59-57.00S 165-13.00W.
2. CANCEL HYDROPAC 1949/22.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 290055Z JUL 22.

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And now we have an additional Space Debris NGA notice (not a replacement) with the same coordinates in a different order and a shorter daily hazard period.

Quote from: NGA
192011Z JUL 22
HYDROPAC 1972/22(83).
SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   1713Z TO 2153Z DAILY 21 THRU 28 JUL
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   25-56.00S 154-18.00W, 25-28.00S 156-42.00W,
   59-30.00S 169-29.00W, 59-57.00S 165-13.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 282253Z JUL 22.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1549483984421265409
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OCISLY (with Tug Scorpius), GO Quest and NRC Quest all departed from the Port of Long Beach yesterday to support Starlink 3-2.

Back to back Vandy launches 😲 H/t @Harry__Stranger for being the eyes in the sky. 👀

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