Quote from: Hotblack Desiato on 05/04/2017 11:30 pmQuoteNeil deGrasse Tyson doubts humans will ever walk on MarsThis is quite a bold assumption. Ever/Never is a very long period of time. ...This isn't something Tyson ever said. If you read the article, you'll see that he questions how long it will take and when it will happen. He never said that he doubts humans would ever walk on Mars.That part about "ever" is just a horribly-inaccurate headline put on the article by an editor at Wired. And, for some reason, this thread title followed that inaccurate headline.Can we fix the thread title? It really slanders Tyson.
QuoteNeil deGrasse Tyson doubts humans will ever walk on MarsThis is quite a bold assumption. Ever/Never is a very long period of time. ...
Neil deGrasse Tyson doubts humans will ever walk on Mars
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Fair.He's missing that this is not going to be driven by the old factors.. .instead, it's going to be driven by... manifest destiny, for want of a better word. These billionaires are gambling that they will be a forcing function that forces the economics to happen. If they're right, if it works... it's going to be spectacular. They're betting on the New World, writ large.If it fails it will be a spectacular crater.
Quotehttp://www.wired.co.uk/article/neil-degrasse-tyson-welcome-to-the-universeI take from this the following:1) He applauds the desire to go.2) He is sceptical about the ways and timelines proposed.3) He doesn't think the drivers of national strategy ("war") and commerce ("economics") are sufficient.Point 1) shows he supports the general; idea. Point 2) is that he is sceptical of some of the ways and time lines, which is reasonable. Most of us are sceptical of at least some of the ways and timelines proposed to date! Point 3 is that he is sceptical that the two big drivers of large scale space endeavours past and present are sufficient. Based on what we currently know he has a point regarding settling Mars, though perhaps not with respect to exploration and science.
http://www.wired.co.uk/article/neil-degrasse-tyson-welcome-to-the-universe
More money doesn't help. They've wasted $43 billion on SLS and Orion, that's half a mission to Mars budget. Politics, corruption and incompetence prevents NASA from sending astronauts to Mars, or to the Moon for that part, regardless of what budget they have.