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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3660 on: 09/01/2022 09:51 pm »
I'm confused here. I was talking about the Tunisian who's supposed to fly on Soyuz, not the UAE flight on Crew-6. ...
You think you're confused?
Clearly it was I who was confused!
Next thing you know I'll be quoting cryogenic temperatures in Rankine off by a full order of magnitude!

I do remember reading "Tunisian", but my mind latched onto the full-length mission part and ran with some musings I've had about Al Neyadi's stay.  Sorry.   My bad. :-[

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3661 on: 09/02/2022 01:31 am »
Quoting Wikipedia's SpaceX Crew-6 § Crew:
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MBRSC participation in this mission is a byproduct of a 2021 agreement between NASA and Axiom to fly a NASA astronaut, Mark T. Vande Hei, onboard Soyuz MS-18 (launch) and Soyuz MS-19 (return) in order to ensure a continuing American presence onboard the ISS. In return, Axiom received the rights to a NASA owned seat onboard SpaceX Crew-6. Axiom provided the flight opportunity to MBRSC professional crew member through an agreement with the United Arab Emirates Space Agency. Later the astronaut was confirmed to be Sultan Al Neyadi.

That looks correct to me.

I'm confused here. I was talking about the Tunisian who's supposed to fly on Soyuz, not the UAE flight on Crew-6. As far as I know, that has always been planned to be a 6-month flight, but I thought the Tunisian flight was going to be as a spaceflight participant. Sorry if I'm missing something.

I'm confused too John. Let's get things straight:
- Crew-6's Sultan Al Neyadi's flight is a 6 months stay.
- Crew-7's still got one seat unannounced yet (probably between Hansen and Furukawa).
- Starliner-1 only has Epps assigned. We'll likely see an international partner in that 4th seat (Hansen or Furukawa)
- Crew-8 and over, no assignments known yet.
- MS-23 has O'hara confirmed. Caldwell-Dyson as backup.

Now for the speculation zone:
- MS-24 was thought to have Caldwell-Dyson as prime crew but its now looking like a Belarussian visitor for a short duration stay, with a Russian cosmonaut staying for a full year.
- MS-25 would be the Tunisian woman for a short duration stay, with another Russian cosmonaut staying for a full year.
- MS-26 would have 3 Russian cosmonauts.

If its true, there would be no crew swap of NASA astronaut on Soyuz and Roscosmos cosmonaut on Dragon for quite a while.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3662 on: 09/02/2022 04:01 am »
I'm confused too John. Let's get things straight:

Assuming that Crew-7 (with Borisov) flies in Spring 2024, it seems likely that there will be an American (probably Tracy Caldwell-Dyson) on MS-25, probably ascent FE1 with an SFP and descent FE2 with Platonov (with Mikayev and Grebyonkin both getting bumped), but other than that, I think you've got it.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3663 on: 09/02/2022 09:37 pm »
Nah mate, you're rationalizing.

If you were making logical deductions you'd be using phrases like "something, something therefore".

The phrases you actually used were "assuming", "seems likely", "probably" - clear markers of speculation.

Kindly cut it out.

Perhaps I could have picked a clearer word than "deductions," but respectfully, please do not accuse me of rationalizing. I do not want to derail this thread (and indeed have been frustrated by recent derailment into speculation--you and Joachim and I are all, I believe, on the same side here), but I am not speculating. kdhilliard and I were collecting the facts that we did know on a confusing topic and trying to figure out what facts we do not know and then to go from there. I was not expecting to continue it beyond what I had already said. All of it, however, was connected to what has come before, both on this thread and more generally. "Assuming", e.g., could be speculation, but it could also be "Presuming that things stay as they have been announced in the news and ..."

Mods, feel free to delete this, but I wanted to clarify my motives.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3664 on: 09/03/2022 05:20 am »
Am I correct in thinking that if Crew-7 flies in late 2023, it'll only have one U.S. crew member (Moghbeli) and Soyuz MS-23 will also only have one U.S. crew member (Caldwell)? So potentially their increment will be 2 U.S., 3 Russians, Mogensen of Denmark and possibly Furukawa of Japan or Hansen of Canada?

Past precedent (at least during 7-crew ops) has typically seen 3 U.S. crew, 3 Russian crew and one IP. Is this expected to change?

Also, flying in such close proximity to Artemis II, is Hansen definitively out of the running for the lunar-orbit mission? In other words, is he unquestioningly aimed at ISS and Kutryk/Sidey-Gibbons at Artemis?

Apologies for the questions/speculation/rambling/curiosity.






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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3666 on: 09/09/2022 11:23 pm »
Am I correct in thinking that if Crew-7 flies in late 2023, it'll only have one U.S. crew member (Moghbeli) and Soyuz MS-23 will also only have one U.S. crew member (Caldwell)? So potentially their increment will be 2 U.S., 3 Russians, Mogensen of Denmark and possibly Furukawa of Japan or Hansen of Canada?

Past precedent (at least during 7-crew ops) has typically seen 3 U.S. crew, 3 Russian crew and one IP. Is this expected to change?

Also, flying in such close proximity to Artemis II, is Hansen definitively out of the running for the lunar-orbit mission? In other words, is he unquestioningly aimed at ISS and Kutryk/Sidey-Gibbons at Artemis?

Apologies for the questions/speculation/rambling/curiosity.

I think launch of space x crew 7 is going for early 2024 now Boeing starliner crew 1 I think is supposed to fly first but could be wrong. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3667 on: 09/09/2022 11:26 pm »
Quoting Wikipedia's SpaceX Crew-6 § Crew:
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MBRSC participation in this mission is a byproduct of a 2021 agreement between NASA and Axiom to fly a NASA astronaut, Mark T. Vande Hei, onboard Soyuz MS-18 (launch) and Soyuz MS-19 (return) in order to ensure a continuing American presence onboard the ISS. In return, Axiom received the rights to a NASA owned seat onboard SpaceX Crew-6. Axiom provided the flight opportunity to MBRSC professional crew member through an agreement with the United Arab Emirates Space Agency. Later the astronaut was confirmed to be Sultan Al Neyadi.

That looks correct to me.

I'm confused here. I was talking about the Tunisian who's supposed to fly on Soyuz, not the UAE flight on Crew-6. As far as I know, that has always been planned to be a 6-month flight, but I thought the Tunisian flight was going to be as a spaceflight participant. Sorry if I'm missing something.

I'm confused too John. Let's get things straight:
- Crew-6's Sultan Al Neyadi's flight is a 6 months stay.
- Crew-7's still got one seat unannounced yet (probably between Hansen and Furukawa).
- Starliner-1 only has Epps assigned. We'll likely see an international partner in that 4th seat (Hansen or Furukawa)
- Crew-8 and over, no assignments known yet.
- MS-23 has O'hara confirmed. Caldwell-Dyson as backup.

Now for the speculation zone:
- MS-24 was thought to have Caldwell-Dyson as prime crew but its now looking like a Belarussian visitor for a short duration stay, with a Russian cosmonaut staying for a full year.
- MS-25 would be the Tunisian woman for a short duration stay, with another Russian cosmonaut staying for a full year.
- MS-26 would have 3 Russian cosmonauts.

If its true, there would be no crew swap of NASA astronaut on Soyuz and Roscosmos cosmonaut on Dragon for quite a while.
I think Soyuz MS26 through MS29 or MS30 is supposed to have three cosmonauts.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3668 on: 09/09/2022 11:50 pm »
Am I correct in thinking that if Crew-7 flies in late 2023, it'll only have one U.S. crew member (Moghbeli) and Soyuz MS-23 will also only have one U.S. crew member (Caldwell)? So potentially their increment will be 2 U.S., 3 Russians, Mogensen of Denmark and possibly Furukawa of Japan or Hansen of Canada?

Past precedent (at least during 7-crew ops) has typically seen 3 U.S. crew, 3 Russian crew and one IP. Is this expected to change?

Also, flying in such close proximity to Artemis II, is Hansen definitively out of the running for the lunar-orbit mission? In other words, is he unquestioningly aimed at ISS and Kutryk/Sidey-Gibbons at Artemis?

Apologies for the questions/speculation/rambling/curiosity.

I think launch of space x crew 7 is going for early 2024 now Boeing starliner crew 1 I think is supposed to fly first but could be wrong. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.

SpaceX Crew-7, Huginn mission patch, 2023

ESA astronaut Andreas Mogensen (DK) is scheduled to fly on a SpaceX Crew Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station on its seventh crewed operational flight called Crew-7, the thirteenth overall Crew Dragon orbital flight. Flying with commander NASA astronaut Jasmin Moghbeli, Andreas will serve as spacecraft pilot - the first non-US astronaut assigned in this capacity. Two more crew members are to be named at a later date.

The name of Andreas’s second mission to the Space Station is ‘Huginn’. Inspired by Norse mythology, the name is taken from one of two ravens who serve as helper spirits of the god Odin. Called Huginn and Muninn, these two birds sit on Odin’s shoulders and are sent flying across the world at dawn. They return at night to inform him of the many events they have seen and heard. In Old Norse, ‘Huginn’ means ‘thought’ and ‘Muninn’ means ‘mind’ or ‘memory’.

The mission patch itself, designed by ESA graphic designer Karen Lochtenberg, is rendered in the red and white of the Danish flag, and ESA’s own ‘Deep Space Blue’ colour.

The raven Huginn is depicted flying to the right, moving into the future as he glides over an Earth-rise horizon, which could also be seen as the Moon or Mars. His wing includes shading in the shape of Andreas’s homeland, Denmark, while the white of the wing’s highlight – referred to by the designer as the ‘swoosh’ – depicts the journey to the Space Station from Andreas’s birthplace in Copenhagen.

Two stripes on Huginn’s back depict the distinctive solar arrays of the Station, and represent Andreas’s second spaceflight. Six stars in the background form a constellation that resembles the Viking symbol for 'safe travels'.

Related article: Introducing Huginn

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2022/08/SpaceX_Crew-7_Huginn_mission_patch_2023

Image credit: ESA

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3669 on: 09/14/2022 06:09 pm »
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3672 on: 09/21/2022 07:51 am »
The article clarifies also that the two Turkish astronauts should fly on Axiom-3.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3673 on: 09/21/2022 05:48 pm »
The article clarifies also that the two Turkish astronauts should fly on Axiom-3.

I think that may be a typo: all of the other articles I have seen refer to one Turkish astronaut (and one backup), so I suspect that it's a total of two and not two flying. I could be wrong, though.


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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3675 on: 09/21/2022 07:28 pm »
What about Jeanette Epps? Has she been bumped from Starliner-1?
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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3676 on: 09/21/2022 07:51 pm »
What about Jeanette Epps? Has she been bumped from Starliner-1?

I presume it means the third unannounced crewmember, i.e., the second mission specialist.

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3678 on: 09/30/2022 02:44 pm »
NASA Updates Crew Assignments for First Starliner Crew Rotation Flight.

Scott Tingle and Mike Fincke assigned as Starliner-1 CDR and PLT respectively.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-updates-crew-assignments-for-first-starliner-crew-rotation-flight

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Re: Flight crew assignments
« Reply #3679 on: 09/30/2022 04:08 pm »
Forgive me for committing the cardinal sin of guessing crew assignments, but my top two picks for Artemis II CDR were either Tingle or Bresnik.

If Randy doesn't now get Artemis II, I'll eat my hat. (If I had one.)

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