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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 2022
« Reply #40 on: 02/03/2022 02:34 pm »
They appeared to confirm B1071 for this flight as well during yesterday's NROL-87 launch (23:23 in the webcast)
That's right, B1071 will be used for another NRO mission, most likely for this one.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : April 2022
« Reply #41 on: 02/26/2022 02:21 am »
Cross-post:
NROL-85 is currently planned for launch in April [from Vandenberg]. With no [Vandenberg Falcon 9] launches going up in March, the next opportunity [for a Starlink launch] is likely May at the earliest pending other launches going up or not.

Also, this means the first stage is 1071.2.



LZ-4 or OCISLY first stage landing?
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : April 2022
« Reply #42 on: 02/26/2022 03:43 am »
Vandenberg SFB orbital launch schedule for the immediate future:

2022 Launched:
№ – Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

April 17 NLT Dec 2021 H2 2021 TBD 2022 NET 7 NET 15 15 16 - NROL-85 (Intruder 13A/B (TBD)) - Falcon 9-148 (1071.2 LZ-4) - Vandenberg SLC-4E Kennedy LC-39A / Canaveral SLC-40 - 13:13:12 Apr 15 12:59 to 14:25 Apr 15 13:47 Apr 15 13:41 Apr 16 13:27
(Intruder orbit: 14 minutes earlier/day)

2022 Scheduled:
№ – Date - Satellite(s) - Rocket - Launch Site - Time (UTC)

NET May 2 NET Oct 2021 Nov 2021 NET Dec 2021 NET Jan NET Feb NET late March NET May May - Starlink 4-13 2-4 2-TBD TBD (x50+? x51? TBD) (flight TBD/high inclination flight 4 polar flight 2?) [v1.5 L-TBD v2.0 L4 L4] - Falcon 9 (1063.5 OCISLY 1071.2 TBD S) - Vandenberg SLC-4E
(mid-inclination Starlink: launch 20-22 minutes earlier/day)

May NET May 2021 late 2021 NET Dec 2021 NET Jan 31 late Jan TBD NET Mar NET Apr - ALS mission 1: Carbonite 4 (CBNT 4), GENESIS-G & J, QUBIK-3/4/5/6, Sapling-1, Spinnaker3 hosted payload - Alpha (FLTA002) - Vandenberg SLC-2W

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : April 2022
« Reply #43 on: 02/26/2022 04:06 am »
Cross-post:
NROL-85 is currently planned for launch in April [from Vandenberg]. With no [Vandenberg Falcon 9] launches going up in March, the next opportunity [for a Starlink launch] is likely May at the earliest pending other launches going up or not.

Also, this means the first stage is 1071.2.




LZ-4 or OCISLY first stage landing?

LZ-4 landing, check out FCC permit https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=113488&RequestTimeout=1000

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : April 2022
« Reply #44 on: 02/26/2022 04:47 am »
Cross-post; NET April 7:
0325-EX-ST-2022

Vandy RTLS, NET April

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This application uses information from previous grant 1981-EX-ST-2021. There is a Stage1TX2/Stage2TX1 frequency swap for this mission to mitigate interference. This STA is necessary to authorize launch vehicle communications for SpaceX Mission 1523 from SLC-4E, Vandenberg Space Force Base. The application includes sub-orbital first stage and orbital second stage. Trajectory data shall be provided directly to NTIA, USAF, and NASA. All downrange Earth stations are receive-only. The recovery portion is limited to two functions: 1) pre-launch checkout test of the command uplink from an onshore station at VSFB, and 2) experimental post landing first-stage uplink testing from the onshore station at VSFB. All operations are pre-coordinated with the Launch Range.

Same as:
LZ-4 landing, check out FCC permit https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=113488&RequestTimeout=1000
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #46 on: 03/15/2022 06:41 pm »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #47 on: 03/15/2022 07:14 pm »
I'll always take the bet on a NRO launch delay.

I was hoping for another Starlink VSFB launch before this one, but doesn't seem likely with JRTI just being off loaded now.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #48 on: 03/17/2022 01:35 pm »
Confirmation that 1071 will be used.

https://twitter.com/NatReconOfc/status/1504148002256076810
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If NROL-85 seems a lot like NROL-87, that’s because it is! Our team is headed to #VSFB soon and this time, we’re reusing the rocket booster core from NROL-87. Talk about a quick turnaround!
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #49 on: 03/20/2022 03:53 am »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
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Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
Based on the information from http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html which shows all launches planned upto April 19th ( Crew-4), can we assume that Starlink 4-14 wont launch untill atleast april 19?. Also we get a launch date of April 14 for starlink 4-14 from its FCC filing which shows a operations start date of 04/14/2022. But based on my data what i have been tracking there is an ideal time frame or some sort of standardization(but can be very fluid or can change drastically
) for a launch date from its Operations start date as seen in the image.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #51 on: 03/20/2022 01:23 pm »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
Based on the information from http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html which shows all launches planned upto April 19th ( Crew-4), can we assume that Starlink 4-14 wont launch untill atleast april 19?. Also we get a launch date of April 14 for starlink 4-14 from its FCC filing which shows a operations start date of 04/14/2022. But based on my data what i have been tracking there is an ideal time frame or some sort of standardization(but can be very fluid or can change drastically
) for a launch date from its Operations start date as seen in the image.

I think the schedule should be looked at now in terms of pad turnaround. From Transporter-4 to the next launch, even if it's just 14 days (two weeks) the next launch could be around April 15th which is still after the FCC permit for Starlink 4-14. Then after that the next launch could be April 30th which is also after the next FCC permit for a mission going straight to the east.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #52 on: 03/20/2022 01:34 pm »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
Based on the information from http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html which shows all launches planned upto April 19th ( Crew-4), can we assume that Starlink 4-14 wont launch untill atleast april 19?. Also we get a launch date of April 14 for starlink 4-14 from its FCC filing which shows a operations start date of 04/14/2022. But based on my data what i have been tracking there is an ideal time frame or some sort of standardization(but can be very fluid or can change drastically
) for a launch date from its Operations start date as seen in the image.

I think the schedule should be looked at now in terms of pad turnaround. From Transporter-4 to the next launch, even if it's just 14 days (two weeks) the next launch could be around April 15th which is still after the FCC permit for Starlink 4-14. Then after that the next launch could be April 30th which is also after the next FCC permit for a mission going straight to the east.

Good point, however, it seems the ASDS cycle times and sea states can also be a challenge when getting into the 14 day turn around. 
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #53 on: 03/20/2022 03:07 pm »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
Based on the information from http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html which shows all launches planned upto April 19th ( Crew-4), can we assume that Starlink 4-14 wont launch untill atleast april 19?. Also we get a launch date of April 14 for starlink 4-14 from its FCC filing which shows a operations start date of 04/14/2022. But based on my data what i have been tracking there is an ideal time frame or some sort of standardization(but can be very fluid or can change drastically
) for a launch date from its Operations start date as seen in the image.

I think the schedule should be looked at now in terms of pad turnaround. From Transporter-4 to the next launch, even if it's just 14 days (two weeks) the next launch could be around April 15th which is still after the FCC permit for Starlink 4-14. Then after that the next launch could be April 30th which is also after the next FCC permit for a mission going straight to the east.

Good point, however, it seems the ASDS cycle times and sea states can also be a challenge when getting into the 14 day turn around.

Droneships have shown a good and steady 10 day turnaround cadence and so far haven't been any long poles for the rapid launch cadence we've seen in the past 5 months. 14 day turnaround at the pad is good enough margin for droneships to come and go for every mission

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : NET 15 April 2022
« Reply #54 on: 03/20/2022 07:09 pm »
Unless Crew-4 is delayed, both that mission and NROL-85 could launch hours apart from each other.
Crew-4 has been delayed.

Starlink 4-14 (NET April 14) and this launch (NET April 15) could be less than 24 hours apart.
Based on the information from http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html which shows all launches planned upto April 19th ( Crew-4), can we assume that Starlink 4-14 wont launch untill atleast april 19?. Also we get a launch date of April 14 for starlink 4-14 from its FCC filing which shows a operations start date of 04/14/2022. But based on my data what i have been tracking there is an ideal time frame or some sort of standardization(but can be very fluid or can change drastically
) for a launch date from its Operations start date as seen in the image.

I think the schedule should be looked at now in terms of pad turnaround. From Transporter-4 to the next launch, even if it's just 14 days (two weeks) the next launch could be around April 15th which is still after the FCC permit for Starlink 4-14. Then after that the next launch could be April 30th which is also after the next FCC permit for a mission going straight to the east.

Good point, however, it seems the ASDS cycle times and sea states can also be a challenge when getting into the 14 day turn around.

Droneships have shown a good and steady 10 day turnaround cadence and so far haven't been any long poles for the rapid launch cadence we've seen in the past 5 months. 14 day turnaround at the pad is good enough margin for droneships to come and go for every mission

Good to know, maybe ASOG will be faster than the older ones.   Summer weather conditions on land sea and air will cause schedule slips here in a few months.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : 15 April 2022
« Reply #56 on: 03/28/2022 04:35 am »
SFN Launch Schedule update, March 25 (one of many):
NROL-85 launches on April 15, 2022 from Vandenberg SFB SLC-4E, with LZ-4 landing.



Cross-post

A barge returned two first stages from Long Beach to Vandenberg, 1071.2 and 1063.5.
I've tracked this barge, and it would appear that SpaceX shipped two Falcon 9 boosters from the Port of Long Beach to Vandenberg Space Force Base yesterday.

https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1507900158335504390
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : 15 April 2022
« Reply #57 on: 04/01/2022 02:45 pm »
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/04/spacex-transporter-4-launch/

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April will be a busy month for SpaceX. Following this mission is Axiom-1 – currently targeting liftoff on April 6 at 12:05 pm EDT. Axiom-1 will utilize B1062-5 with Crew Dragon Endeavour on a 10-day mission to the International Space Station. It will be the first all-private mission to the station.

The classified NROL-85 mission will follow 11 days later and will use B1071-2 and SLC-4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base.

If true, this would suggest NROL-85 is scheduled to launch on April 17.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : NROL-85 : Vandenberg : 15 April 2022
« Reply #58 on: 04/01/2022 04:05 pm »
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2022/04/spacex-transporter-4-launch/

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April will be a busy month for SpaceX. Following this mission is Axiom-1 – currently targeting liftoff on April 6 at 12:05 pm EDT. Axiom-1 will utilize B1062-5 with Crew Dragon Endeavour on a 10-day mission to the International Space Station. It will be the first all-private mission to the station.

The classified NROL-85 mission will follow 11 days later and will use B1071-2 and SLC-4E at Vandenberg Space Force Base.

If true, this would suggest NROL-85 is scheduled to launch on April 17.

Just an oversight in the article, that line didn't get updated when Ax-1 slipped.  These things happen.  Thanks for pointing it out.

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