Quote from: Dante80 on 11/06/2015 06:32 amI think that RL-10 is going to get replaced with XCOR due to cost. Huh ? That statement doesn't make a lot of sense.
I think that RL-10 is going to get replaced with XCOR due to cost.
Quote from: FishInferno on 11/06/2015 12:44 amI have the sneaking suspicion ULA is doing this in an attempt to get the same attention SpaceX gets for their Mars program.Which is extremely cool, and also shows the direction and impulse that Mr Bruno wishes to give to the company.edited for removing OT discussion.
I have the sneaking suspicion ULA is doing this in an attempt to get the same attention SpaceX gets for their Mars program.
Quote from: Dante80 on 11/06/2015 06:32 amQuote from: FishInferno on 11/06/2015 12:44 amI have the sneaking suspicion ULA is doing this in an attempt to get the same attention SpaceX gets for their Mars program.Which is extremely cool, and also shows the direction and impulse that Mr Bruno wishes to give to the company.edited for removing OT discussion. Or, it's just marketing spin that ULA leadership doesn't actually believe.
Quote from: ChrisWilson68 on 11/06/2015 07:53 amOr, it's just marketing spin that ULA leadership doesn't actually believe.I agree, it doesn't really seem like much time was spend on this, it would be great if it happened but ULA has expressed no interest for doing their own missions like SpaceX has.
Or, it's just marketing spin that ULA leadership doesn't actually believe.
Quote from: FishInferno on 11/06/2015 11:51 amQuote from: ChrisWilson68 on 11/06/2015 07:53 amOr, it's just marketing spin that ULA leadership doesn't actually believe.I agree, it doesn't really seem like much time was spend on this, it would be great if it happened but ULA has expressed no interest for doing their own missions like SpaceX has.Both companies are doing the thing that companies in this business have done since before Sputnik. They are offering ideas, concepts, to show the government what they think is possible. It is a shopping list. None of it happens unless it is funded. That includes SpaceX. - Ed Kyle
FH and Raptor are happening without gov funding, so is BE-4.
Quote from: su27k on 11/06/2015 03:51 pmFH and Raptor are happening without gov funding, so is BE-4. You do realize where the money comes from, right? Vulcan is being developed to launch government payloads, primarily. So is Falcon Heavy, which is SpaceX's design to compete for EELV Medium-Plus and Heavy payloads.
ULA have been developing their IVF system and in orbit refuel for a few years now. They were hoping NASA would pay for flight testing and maybe fuel depots. The good news ULA seem to be willing to pay for itthemselves, still need a willing customer's mission to flight test these new technologies. If ULA can prove in orbit refueling a storage they will automatically become leaders in this technology.
If ULA can prove in orbit refueling a storage they will automatically become leaders in this technology.
Quote from: TrevorMonty on 11/08/2015 05:14 amIf ULA can prove in orbit refueling a storage they will automatically become leaders in this technology.Sort of like Russians have been refueling spacecraft on orbit since Salyut 6 for more than three decades now ?
We continue to study the feasibility and utility. If a demand presents, we'll look at it
What entities is ULA fantasizing will spend $600B more each year in 15 years than they do now? That's 30 times NASA's budget!
Most of that diagram is about better ways to deliver services for NASA-like organizations, and NASA won't get anything close to a $600B budget unless a large asteroid is discovered on a collision course with Earth. The only part of that diagram with potential for significant new money is LEO tourism. It seems beyond implausible that LEO tourism would in 15 years be bigger than the GDP of Sweden and almost as big as the GDP of the state of Florida.
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