Author Topic: Tianmu-1 07-10 - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 20, 2023 (03:20 UTC)  (Read 8909 times)

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #1 on: 06/28/2023 08:22 am »
The payloads might be Xingshidai‐16 (Taian) 星时代-16(泰安号)and others.

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #2 on: 06/28/2023 03:27 pm »
The payloads might be Xingshidai‐16 (Taian) 星时代-16(泰安号)and others.
You've surmised elsewhere that the Xingshidai‐16 (Taian) 星时代-16(泰安号)and other payloads might be launched on the sixth flight of the Gushenxing-1. We'll see whether or not a Kuaizhou-1A launch occurs on July 3, but satori has mentioned on this forum that launch dates for a Chinese space launch cannot be conjectured based on loose evidence such as NOTAMs.

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #3 on: 06/28/2023 05:13 pm »
but satori has mentioned on this forum that launch dates for a Chinese space launch cannot be conjectured based on loose evidence such as NOTAMs.
Well, in fact a NOTAM is in 80% of cases the only official info on the expected Chinese launch. It does point to the launch date, it can point to the type of launch vehicle (the July 3 zone is typical for KZ-1A for example), but it usually cannot point to a payload and these  should not be conjectured as a rule.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #4 on: 06/29/2023 02:29 am »
This is exact Kuaizhou-1A.

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #5 on: 06/29/2023 07:53 am »
This is exact Kuaizhou-1A.

The problem is not saying that it is going to be a KZ-1A, but the fact that you are constantly posting wild guesses about the payloads without any sources.

So, please stop doing that!

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:20 UTC)
« Reply #6 on: 06/29/2023 07:56 am »
This is exact Kuaizhou-1A.

The problem is not saying that it is going to be a KZ-1A, but the fact that you are constantly posting wild guesses about the payloads without any sources.

So, please stop doing that!
What do you mean? I just guess what payloads not set to title! then I confirmed it is Kuaizhou-1A, that is wrong?

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:23 UTC)
« Reply #7 on: 06/29/2023 08:02 am »
What do you mean? I just guess what payloads not set to title! then I confirmed it is Kuaizhou-1A, that is wrong?

We value your posts, but your guesses sometimes appear as a statement, instead of being an opinion, which causes confusion to people like me tracking what is being launched. If you don't have a source it is better to not make guesses on what the payload might be.
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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~03:23 UTC)
« Reply #8 on: 06/30/2023 12:24 am »
The A1604/23:2023/07/03 03:11;2023/07/03 03:38;ZPKM is removed!

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July TBD, 2023
« Reply #9 on: 07/01/2023 03:21 am »

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #10 on: 07/02/2023 03:58 pm »
The new NOTAM.

Can someone please confirm this is still active for launch on the 3rd?

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The new NOTAM.

Can someone please confirm this is still active for launch on the 3rd?

Yes, but note that the NOTAM area was amended from specifying July 3rd with a 40 minutes window to July 3rd to 6th, 03:00 - 08:00 UTC.

No corresponding NOTAMs within Chinese territory is active right now.
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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #12 on: 07/03/2023 04:11 am »
The NOTAM F2210/23 is moved, but F2235/23 still actived!

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 3, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #13 on: 07/05/2023 02:20 am »
The NOTAM F2210/23 is moved, but F2235/23 still actived!
The F2235/22 replaced by F2280/23.

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 19, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #14 on: 07/05/2023 02:27 am »
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F2271/23 NOTAMR F2240/23
Q) YMMM/QWMXX/IV/BO/W/000/999/2333S08646E040
A) YMMM
B) 2307190300 C) 2307220800
D) DAILY 0300/0800

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F2280/23 NOTAMR F2235/23
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/2308S08702E040
A) YMMM
B) 2307190300 C) 2307220800
D) DAILY 0300/0800
What happened? Does this mean threr will be two Kuaizhou-1A launches in the same time span from same place?

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 19, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #15 on: 07/05/2023 07:44 am »
What a mess this is becoming!

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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 19, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #17 on: 07/05/2023 11:01 am »
Removed the other thread.  Please don't start threads based on a travel agency saying there may be a rocket launch sometime.

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If this is really KZ-1A (as seen from above, the NOTAM zone is similar to that of several previous KZ-1A launches), it would probably be this one.

https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1678217934575923200

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1678434155972149248
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Re: ? - Kuaizhou-1A - Jiuquan - July 19, 2023 (~04:40 UTC)
« Reply #19 on: 07/12/2023 01:07 pm »
2023年下半年中国快舟系列火箭将进行8到10次发射

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In the second half of 2023, China's Kuaizhou series rockets will carry out 8 to 10 launches

On July 12, the Ninth China (International) Commercial Aerospace Summit Forum opened in Wuhan. The reporter learned from the forum that in the second half of this year, Kuaizhou series rockets will carry out 8 to 10 launch missions, which is expected to break last year's record.

Kuaizhou series rockets are independently developed by Aerospace Sanjiang, a subsidiary of China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation. They are solid launch vehicles with the most launches in China.

Among them, the Kuaizhou-1A carrier rocket is a small solid carrier rocket, mainly for low-orbit launch and networking of 300 kg small satellites, and has now achieved normal launch. The Kuaizhou-11 carrier rocket is also a solid carrier rocket. It adopts a vehicle-mounted mobile launch method, and its carrying capacity is five times that of Kuaizhou-1A. and networking requirements.

Aerospace Sanjiang said that in the future, Kuaizhou Rocket’s contract performance model will evolve towards the “rocket supermarket” model, that is, mass production and storage of rockets in advance, and those who have satellite launch needs can choose rockets like shopping in a supermarket. At the same time, Aerospace Sanjiang will accelerate the breakthrough of key technologies for reusable liquid launch vehicles, accelerate the digital manufacturing of metal and composite material structural parts of liquid launch vehicles, the transformation and upgrading of intelligent manufacturing, and the capacity building of liquid engine test runs to form the Kuaizhou series of green new models. Launch vehicle spectrum.
Base on this news, I guess there might be two launches in July 19 with two different drop zone NOTAMs as below:
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F2271/23:2023/07/19 03:00;2023/07/22 08:00;YMMM;S23°03',E086°38'|S23°07',E087°03'|S24°02',E086°52'|S23°58',E086°27'
F2280/23:2023/07/19 03:00;2023/07/22 08:00;YMMM;S23°03',E086°38'|S23°58',E086°27'|S24°02',E086°52'|S23°07',E087°03'

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