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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #40 on:
02/04/2016 12:21 pm »
Hello everybody,
with the
LVM-LUT
it actually goes further.
Here is
Update 20
.
As one can see, they continued with the interior of the LUT, adding controll cabinets, storage racks, etc. for each level of the LUT, which is done in a parametric way.
Source: LVM Studios
Coming soon one will start with the construction of the
Hammerhead Crane
. By the way is running the inventory of needed Evergreen profiles which must be ordered via distributors, the delivery can take months.
The CNC machine which is used for milling the parts of the mobile launcher is still in prototype stage.
Then let's wait again.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #41 on:
03/31/2016 08:54 pm »
Hello everybody,
Here is the sparse new
Update Nr. 21
.
The design for the interior of the LUT (control boxes, cabinets, valve complexes) takes longer than expected. A lot of dimensions of these items are not not known and based on several drawings (demolition engineering drawings) LVM try to figure it all out. A start is made with the
Hammerhead Crane
design.
BTW, speaking of drawings, in consideration of the vast quantities of NASA drawings and photos on which
Mischa Klement (microartwork.com)
has based his crawler and as well his ingenious LUT development, I have no good feeling with the whole thing, because LVM seems have underestimated the complexity of the LUT project and is repeatedly confronted with new problems.
They also have been busy with sourcing material for flexible hoses between the LUT and the service arms so the service arms can move. One has found some interesting materials and are waiting for arrival of these materials in order to test the usability.
LVM's new CNC milling machine control box has been delayed due to unavailability of certain parts. In the next few weeks they expect to receive the missing parts and can get started on building the control cabinet and getting the milling machine running again.
So all in all a more than sobering
Status quo
...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #42 on:
05/12/2016 10:48 am »
Hello everybody,
here is the new
Update Nr. 22
.
LVM still fiddles about with the completion of the interior on the 3D model, about parts manufacture is obviously for the moment not to think.
When they assembled the cable trays under each level they noticed that the lighting fixture are in the way and intersect each other.
Source: LVM Studios
LVM get a lot of questions about when the product will be ready, but at this moment they have not set a release date yet. They are aiming at certain milestones but are also aware that issues may come up. At this moment they are still in design stage and expect to build some prototypes (parts of the project) within a few months.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #43 on:
06/11/2016 10:48 pm »
Hello everybody,
here is the new
Update Nr. 23
.
This time it is all about the design of the equipment details on the outside of the LUT, such as water pipes on Side 2, hydraulic lines on Side 4 and the LH2 and LOX pipes on Side 3.
Here some impressions of the progress:
Source: LVM Studios
Source: LVM Studios
In the CAD 3D model this looks quite promising , but it's by no means yet implemented into concrete components, let alone built.
The new controller for the CNC milling machine has been built and one starts testing the machine in the next few weeks.
In july LVM expect to build the first prototype of the MLP, levels 0-80 and 100-140, which is important for testing if all elements of the construction work well with eachother.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #44 on:
08/19/2016 11:01 am »
Hello everybody,
here is after vacation-related delay, the new
Update Nr. 24
.
Source: LVM Studios
After LVM has apparently found new reference sources, the design was improved and updated once more, after which now first production drawings for the PE parts are made.
The design of the LUT interior was allegedly rather complicated due to the variety of electrical equipment, consoles, distributors, heat exchangers, valve complexes (LOX and LH2), cable trays and piping and is not yet completed. Because the interior is quite crammed, it was decided to omit the many storage racks because one supposedly has no data on these racks.
Other parts of the design like the
Hammerhead crane
and
Service arms
are still a work in progress.
The CNC milling machine is running and they try to optimize different parameters to have quality parts produced in the fastest time.
To the completion date one cannot make any promise, because the design phase is not finished yet.
To my question to the prospects for this year's
Scale ModelWorld in Telford (12./13.11.2016)
, was communicated that one will bring along some protoypes of the
1/144 scale version LUT
, anyway better than nothing.
So only remains to wait and see!
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #45 on:
11/03/2016 01:05 pm »
Hello LUT guys,
after I have reminded
Leon van Munster
, after a longer break LVM has still presented 14 days before the
ScaleModel World
in Telford (12/13 Nov.)
Update Nr. 25
.
It shows the first prototypes of PE plates of the LUT levels (0 to 140),
as well as the elevator shaft for testing the tower structure.
As it is said, a first exclusive look at the prototype is planned still before the Telford fair.
So let's wait and see what's going on there.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #46 on:
11/12/2016 03:08 pm »
Hello folks,
LVM Studios
have kept their word and presents in
Update No. 26
a first prototype of the LUT with the levels 0 to 140.
Source: LVM Studios
The beginning looks quite interesting, although I thought that they would show a finished tower after two years. At least I would have expected that they also present the
Mobile Launcher
.
So there is still plenty to do ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #47 on:
11/13/2016 10:20 pm »
It looks impressive so far.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #48 on:
01/20/2017 06:05 am »
Hello LUT friends,
I have asked
Leon van Munster
today on the kickstarter page, what happened in the last eight weeks since the Telford fair, or wether
LVM
is still in winter sleep ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #49 on:
01/24/2017 01:55 pm »
Hello everybody,
as
Leon
has emailed me today, November and December have been busy months for
LVM
(hopefully with the LUT) ...
After he was also still grabbed by the flu, he is now again on his feet and will post an update this week.
Then we will wait and see.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #50 on:
02/24/2017 10:37 pm »
Hello guys,
there are news from
LVM
, which today have presented their
Update Nr. 27
, in which from now on monthly updates are announced.
First, there are some close-ups of the last shown prototype, among others like this one from the Inner structure of the first floors up to
Level 80
including stair ways etc..
Here the LH2 pipes on the
Side 3
and the carrier structure for the Service Arms on the
Side 1
,
as well as further details on this side.
Subsequently, there are a number of CAD drawings after a new design review, among others from the improved ECS piping on Side 2 and also from the new designed water supply construction, which you look at yourself best.
The design of the main structure of the tower (platforms, vertical beams, stairs, etc.) has been finalized now. Now one will continue further with the
Service Arms
,
Walkways
and
Hammerhead Crane
.
It's going forward, but still a lot remains to be done.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #51 on:
06/26/2017 11:46 am »
Hello everybody,
after I asked at
LVM
after three-month intermission
on 4 June whether there is any progress or only problems, to which there was no answer so far, yesterday was humorlessly presented
Update No. 28
, which is equivalent to a revelation.
The core statement of the boss (
Leon van Munster
) is simple and poignant:
"The project will be delayed further as I have not as much time to continue the work on the project as before."
Meanwhile I also believe, that LVM have overtaxed oneself and presumably also totally miscalculated with the LUT-project, what LUT-Guru
Mischa Klement
already suspected some time ago ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #52 on:
06/29/2017 10:26 pm »
That is sad, but it is a huge project!!
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #53 on:
02/26/2018 07:20 pm »
Hello everybody,
I asked
Leon van Munster (LVM)
again today, because it looks like it's time to say
Goodbye
...
Hi Leon,
please tell the backers honestly the further perspective for 2018, or has the LUT project been canceled?
It's best to get unpleasant things over and done with.
Regards,
Manfred
Now I am waiting for his answer ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #54 on:
02/26/2018 08:59 pm »
It wouldn't be the first time a LUT has killed a company.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #55 on:
05/06/2018 10:02 pm »
Hi LUT friends,
here is
Update No. 29
.
Leon van Muster
said at the end:
This said it is NOT that LVM Studios has abandoned this project.It is still alive and I hope in the near future to bring the Mobile Launcher Apollo Saturn kits to reality!
Well then, hope dies last ...
BTW, I reminded him of his words at the beginning, as he said, that
LVM
wanted to offer individual kits and asked him, whether they can already deliver the first 4 kits,
Mobile Launcher Base and details
, as well as
Level 0 - 140
?
Unfortunately until today no reply.
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #56 on:
05/06/2018 10:36 pm »
Hello everybody,
in the
Spring Advertising 2018 Part I
by
Andromeda24
states:
LVM
is currently no longer producing kits. They continue to work on the
Launch Umbilical Tower
.
The
Part II
contains this message:
Everything stays different ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #57 on:
08/04/2018 10:17 pm »
Hello LUT community,
as it looks like
LVM
seems to have switched off their lights,
especially because since a few days one cannot reach the
LVM website
anymore.
Also my attempt to reach
Leon van Munster
via email at
[email protected]
was unfortunately in vain:
No valid MX hosts found
!!!
This inglorious end according to the motto:
It's better to make a painful break than draw out the agony ...
is for all, but especially for the
LUT backers
, to whom I unfortunately also count, in addition to the financial loss in total a huge disappointment.
That's not the fine Dutch way, Leon ...
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Re: Apollo Saturn LUT by LVM Studios 2015
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Reply #58 on:
08/07/2018 11:51 am »
Or he's on holiday and forgot to renew his hosting.
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Reply #59 on:
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LUT model production has claimed at least three companies...
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