OV-106 - 2/7/2007 2:54 PM... I do not know why you (Jim) try to constantly make this program and everything related to it so sterile and bland. It does not need to be that way and should not be that way.
OV-106 - 2/7/2007 2:54 PM I do not know why you try to constantly make this program and everything related to it so sterile and bland. It does not need to be that way and should not be that way. . While the payload may be the purpose and the goal of the mission, it is the crew and us here on the ground that define it because in the end that's how you judge success..
Seattle Dave - 2/7/2007 1:14 AM These are named vehicles that people can identfy with without having to know all the technicalities ... Mike Leinbach always speaks of them as "shes", as did Leroy Cain today. It works on the level of your first car. I bet we could all name it and some people even give pet names to their cars. Difference is these orbiters already have their own names so they aren't all the same to the public, even if they are indentical sisters.
These are named vehicles that people can identfy with without having to know all the technicalities ... Mike Leinbach always speaks of them as "shes", as did Leroy Cain today.
It works on the level of your first car. I bet we could all name it and some people even give pet names to their cars. Difference is these orbiters already have their own names so they aren't all the same to the public, even if they are indentical sisters.
I totally agree with Dave.
Discovery has always been my favorite orbiter. However, after seeing the pictures of Endeavour going into the VAB... she is so clean, white, and shiny, and sparkly... I may have to change my mind, lol.
And I thought I was just "girlie" because I had a "favorite" orbiter! Lots of people do! (And no it doesn't remotely trivialize the space program to me, because I happen to have a favorite.)
Jim - 2/7/2007 2:42 AM To me, the payload defines the mission, the specific orbiter used is no different than the ET assigned to the mission.
Chris Bergin - 3/7/2007 5:08 PM.......We'll be moving to STS-122 Processing updates once she's back in the OPF. We'll either start a new thread, or keep going with the current STS-122 processing thread (problem being it was Discovery's flight before the manifest swap-around, but as Jim will tell us, the payload and mission are the same...just the orbiter has changed)........
Jason Davies - 3/7/2007 7:07 PMQUOTE]So maybe there's room for all such angles?
Jim - 1/7/2007 8:42 PMThis sort of thing (the poll) trivalize the space program. Just as some say that Atlantis should 'get" the HSM mission since it has yet to do one, which is meaningless. An orbiter is an orbiter. They had no choice in the missions assigned to them, nor did they have an additional affect on those missions. To me, the payload defines the mission, the specific orbiter used is no different than the ET assigned to the mission. Having worked on over 30 shuttle missions and actually going inside the orbiters (see my album), I don't which orbiter goes with what mission. In the photos, I don't even know which orbiter I am in.
Jordaxe12 - 3/7/2007 3:49 PMI chose Columbia. She was the first orbiter to launch into space and to me the best. Its just sad that she had to go the way she did.
Oberon_Command - 3/7/2007 6:35 PMI chose Atlantis. It's a better end than being turned into scrap metal on the ground. In my view, it's better for a spacecraft to die in flight than to be melted down and turned into other stuff.Then again, I'm one of those people who (if I can afford it) would have his dead body launched into space and cremated through a cadaver reentry, so you might not share that opinion.
Jim - 1/7/2007 9:42 PMThis sort of thing (the poll) trivalize the space program. Just as some say that Atlantis should 'get" the HSM mission since it has yet to do one, which is meaningless. An orbiter is an orbiter. They had no choice in the missions assigned to them, nor did they have an additional affect on those missions. To me, the payload defines the mission, the specific orbiter used is no different than the ET assigned to the mission. Having worked on over 30 shuttle missions and actually going inside the orbiters (see my album), I don't which orbiter goes with what mission. In the photos, I don't even know which orbiter I am in.