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Thread for the Starlink Group 7-9 launch.

Launch 3 January 2024, at 03:44:20 UTC (2 January, 7:44 pm PST), from Vandenberg SFB SLC-4E, on booster 1082-1.  The first stage successfully landed aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload 21 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 336 x 345 km.

Six of these Starlink satellites are the first launches with Direct to Cell capabilities.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.



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1924-EX-ST-2023  SpaceX Mission 2191 Starlink Group 7-9 from SLC-4E
[Launch NET Oct 15]
ASDS North  29  52  50   West  116  45  3
Realistically, launch would be NET November.

Then, as the November Vandenberg Falcon 9 schedule became clear around October 22, the launch became NET December.

425 Project EO/IR:
Yonhap News Agency Defense chief says N. Korea could launch spy satellite in late Nov. with Russian aid, 3 November, by Kim Eun-jung
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In response to Pyongyang's efforts to put its first spy satellite into space, Shin vowed to boost the South Korean military's surveillance capability to fend off North Korea's advancing missile and nuclear threat.

He disclosed the South Korean military's plan to launch its first indigenous reconnaissance satellite on Falcon 9, U.S. aerospace company SpaceX's two-stage rocket, from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California on Nov. 30, as well as a plan to launch a homegrown solid propellant rocket later this year.

...

Starlink 7-9 likely follows Starlink 7-8, with a launch NET mid December.

Unless, Starlink 8-1 is cleared to launch in the next week or so.  Then, it takes priority.
This likely pertains to Starlink 8-1.
BREAKING NEWS!   FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial"  Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplace

SATMOD2023020700021

https://twitter.com/FREESPEECH1017/status/1730772350646526400

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More on SpaceX D2D "Scope of Grant"

The most important.  "Authority to Launch"
This Grant authorizes SpaceX for the Launch of  "Modified" satellites (up to 7,500 Gen. 2)  into the three authorized Gen. 2 orbital parameters and allows "limited on-orbit check out in the PCS G Block of the satellite buss and antenna deployment for a period of 10 days or less. This authority does not permit LEOP operations. Only the initial 10 day check out period on orbit.

This authorization was the first necessary step in the process.  You can not authorize the  "launch of satellites" on a STA. So this is the purpose of this License Grant.  SpaceX will need to perform LEOP operations shortly after the payloads are past the initial checkout period. 

That is where the new STA SpaceX applied for today 12/01 comes into play.

SES-STA-INTR2023-06753

"SpaceX will conduct its payload testing activities during the launch and early orbit phase (“LEOP”) of the satellites’ mission. During the critical check-out phase, which will begin within hours of launch at an altitude between 290 km and 350 km—depending on the particulars of the specific launch—and will continue for several weeks for each satellite, SpaceX will test the functionality of each direct-to-cellular payload and its network capabilities to ensure that they are operating as intended. Permitting this initial, internal LEOP check-out testing over several weeks (or longer as necessary) for each satellite is critical to assess and address issues as they arise."

Then eventually they will transition to the previously filed STA on October 2nd. for wide-spread testing with TMobile.
SAT-STA-20231002-00240

"Direct-to-cell STA to launch and test its non-geostationary orbit NGSO second generation Gen2 satellites with direct-to-cellular communications payloads to connect unmodified cellular phones directly to SpaceX Gen2 satellites"

Every D2D operator that will provide service to the US will require authority to launch from the FCC.

https://twitter.com/FREESPEECH1017/status/1730971108495823025

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Correct.  10 days, then the STA will be approved fo[r] LEOP testing, 30 days, renewable.  The take away is, you can't launch on a STA.  Because you can not easily "unlaunch them" if the STA is not renewed. Watch for a series of filings next week for D2D missions @FCC. I suspect that the 800 satellite number will include at least 1 Starship launch.

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BREAKING NEWS!   FCC Approves in Part, Defers in Part SpaceX's Feb. 07, 2023 application to provide "Commercial"  Direct 2 Device service. Providing SpaceX with "First Mover Advantage" in the D2D marketplace
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So we will get notice of the Starlink Group 8-1 launch soon.  :)

If Group 8 launches are approved, the still remaining Group 6 and 7 launches may be canceled.
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Which first stage will be used for this launch?  (semi-rhetorical question)

The May 16 press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches.  However, as of the Project 425 rideshare launch, non-Starlink launches apparently qualify as well.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1075.8     Oct 29
1063.16   Nov 20

Edit December 14: It's a new first stage, B1082.1!

Edit December 23: It's still B1082.1.  SARah 2 and 3 uses B1075.8.
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NET December 14 early UTC per this NOTAM (04:59 - 09:24 UTC):

B1093/23 NOTAMN
Q) MMFR/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/
A) MMFR
B) 2312140459
C) 2312200736
D) 14 0459-0924, 15 0459-0924, 16 0438-0903, 17 0416-0841, 18 0355-0820
   
   19 0333-0758, 20 0311-0736
E) DANGEROUS AREA FOR REENTRY OF ROCKET FALCON 9 STARLINK 7-9
   LATERAL LIMIT AREA FORMED BY THE UNION OF THE FOLLOWING POINTS:
   29 01N 116 37W
   29 20N 116 53W
   30 45N 117 34W
   31 00N 117 34W
   31 00N 117 19W
   30 25N 116 41W
   29 48N 116 10W
   29 24N 115 57W
   29 01N 116 37W
   MMFR
F) SFC
G) UNL
« Last Edit: 12/11/2023 02:13 am by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Vandenberg launches

1st Dec 18:19, then
8th Dec 08:03 (gap under 6 days 14 hours) then 
14 Dec 04:59 would be a gap of 5 days 21 hours which would be a record for this pad, I think.

I am struggling to find less than 10 days before this so an impressive speed up in rate?

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NET December 14 early UTC per this NOTAM (2nd stage de-orbit zone active 04:59 - 09:24 UTC):

Map of the booster recovery area from the NOTAM. ASDS 642km downrange.

Debra C + OCISLY departed PoLB on Dec 11 @ 5:37pm PT / 8:37pm ET

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NGA Space Debris notice that is effective a Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA
120447Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 863/23(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   140459Z TO 140924Z, 150459Z TO 150924Z,
   160438Z TO 160903Z, 170416Z TO 170841Z,
   180355Z TO 180820Z, 190333Z TO 190758Z
   AND 200311Z TO 200736Z DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   29-56.00N 116-14.00W, 30-33.00N 117-11.00W,
   30-31.00N 117-14.00W, 29-21.00N 116-52.00W,
   29-03.00N 116-38.00W, 29-23.00N 115-56.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 200836Z DEC 23.//

Two NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas).

Quote from: NGA
120418Z DEC 23
NAVAREA XII 862/23(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   140638Z TO 141106Z, 150638Z TO 151106Z,
   160617Z TO 161045Z, 170555Z TO 171023Z,
   180534Z TO 181002Z, 190512Z TO 190940Z
   AND 200450Z TO 200918Z DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W,
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 201018Z DEC 23.//
Quote from: NGA
120418Z DEC 23
HYDROPAC 3890/23(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 07.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   140638Z TO 141106Z, 150638Z TO 151106Z,
   160617Z TO 161045Z, 170555Z TO 171023Z,
   180534Z TO 181002Z, 190512Z TO 190940Z
   AND 200450Z TO 200918Z DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W,
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 201018Z DEC 23.//

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NGA Space Debris notice that is effective a Rocket Launching notice.

Overlay of the NOTAM and NGA notices, NOTAM in a lighter amber. The NGA Space Debris notices are identical to those for Starlink 7-8.

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2 interesting changes to the entry on NXSF:

* 21 satellites listed instead of the previous 22
* "This launch will also include a batch of Starlink satellites with direct-to-cell connectivity." - does it mean Group 8-x has been renamed?
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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

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SPACE-X STARLINK 7-9, VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY: 12/14 0459Z-0924Z
BACKUPS: 12/15 0459Z-0924Z
         12/16 0438Z-0903Z
    12/17 0416Z-0741Z
    12/18 0355Z-0820Z
    12/19 0333Z-0758Z
    12/20 0311Z-0736Z

Go Beyond (fka. Go Crusader) departed PoLB on Dec 12 @ 7:08am PT / 10:08am ET

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Slipped to December 15 UTC:

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1734748818670022783

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CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 7-9 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2023-12-15 at 05:14:30 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g7-9. Deployment of 21 satellites at 06:17:09.480 UTC. Data for 5 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

05:14:30
06:19:10
06:51:50
07:54:30
08:30:30
08:59:00
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Go Beyond (fka. Go Crusader) departed PoLB on Dec 12 @ 7:08am PT / 10:08am ET
...and then almost immediately returned to port, where it now sits. Voyage duration a bit under 3 hr.

Meanwhile, Debra C is still enroute to the landing zone, currently a bit south of Ensenada.

I figure that Go Beyond got word of the 1 day slip in time to save a lot of fuel and trouble. But Debra C and OCISLY were already a day and a half away, so returning wasn't practical.

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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1735064254758125909

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Departure! Of Course I Still Love You droneship and SpaceX support ship GO Beyond are underway from California to support Starlink 7-9.

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Update from CelesTrak:

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1735409544262742136

Quote from: T.S. Kelso
UPDATE #1: CelesTrak has adjusted pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 7-9 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2023-12-15 at 05:04:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g7-9. Deployment of 21 satellites at 06:06:39.420 UTC. Data for 6 backup launch opportunities: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Launch: 2023-12-15 05:04:00 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 06:06:39.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 05:18:30 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 06:21:09.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 06:33:10 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 07:35:49.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 06:53:50 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 07:56:29.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 08:12:30 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 09:15:09.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 08:30:30 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 09:33:09.420 UTC.
Launch: 2023-12-15 08:37:00 UTC. Deployment: 2023-12-15 09:39:39.420 UTC.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1735441592146911415
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Falcon 9 launch of 21 @Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from California targeted for later tonight → http://spacex.com/launches

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-9
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SpaceX is targeting Thursday, December 14 for a Falcon 9 launch of 21 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 9:04 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 12:37 a.m. PT on Friday, December 15. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Friday, December 15 starting at 9:19 p.m. PT.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about fifteen minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the first flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship, which will be stationed in the Pacific Ocean.

This launch will include the first six Starlink satellites with Direct to Cell capabilities that will enable mobile network operators around the world to provide seamless global access to texting, calling, and browsing wherever you may be on land, lakes, or coastal waters.
B1082.1
15 December 05:04 UTC
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Regarding B1082:
https://twitter.com/adamcuker/status/1713638221224038773
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SpaceX booster 1082 completed it’s testing with a 77-second static test fire yesterday in McGregor, TX.
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Watch testing LIVE at:
nsf.live/mcgregor

Maybe its a whole different booster. 4E cadence is increasing, they will need more than 4 boosters out there at some point. When did 1082 leave McGregor? <snip>
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Are the six of 21 satellites still V2 Mini?  Or a new model?
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-9
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This launch will include the first six Starlink satellites with Direct to Cell capabilities that will enable mobile network operators around the world to provide seamless global access to texting, calling, and browsing wherever you may be on land, lakes, or coastal waters.
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This launch will include the first six Starlink satellites with Direct to Cell capabilities
Is this a mix 'n match to get the absolute maximum LV performance?

So can we assume D2D Starlinks have an additional mass slightly greater than 1/6 of the standard V2-mini Starlink mass?

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