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Thread for the Starlink 6-35 group launch.

NSF Threads for Starlink 6-35: Discussion

Launch 7 January 2024, at 22:35:40 UTC (5:35 pm EST), from CCSFS SLC-40, on booster 1067-16.  The first stage successfully landed aboard A Shortfall of Gravitas at LZ-1.

Payload 23 less than 23? Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 43 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory.  Initial orbit 284 x 293 km.

Please use the Starlink Discussion Thread for all general discussion on Starlink.

Check the Starlink Index Thread for links to more Starlink information.



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Cross-posts:
1940-EX-ST-2023  Mission 1909 Starlink Group 6-35
[Launch NET Oct 23]
ASDS    North  25  41  37   West  75  5  42
Obvious (at least to me) from the get-go that launch would be NET December.

Edit/add; Starlink RTLS!
This is new...
2269-EX-ST-2023  RTLS option for Mission 1909 Starlink Group 6-35 from Cape Canaveral FL at LC-40 CCAFS or LC-39a at KSC
[Launch NET Dec 9]

My bolds, my corrections:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated December 1:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on  December 2 1 at 11:00 p.m. EST or later. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch on December 6 5 at 11:00 p.m. EST or later. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon Heavy will launch the seventh OTV X-37B spaceplane mission for the U.S. Space Force from pad 39A on December 10. The side boosters will land back at the Cape eight minutes after launch.
Reference to Florida Starlink launches, after OTV-7, is gone from the December 7 update.
Further updated today:
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The next SpaceX Falcon Heavy will launch the seventh OTV X-37B spaceplane mission for the U.S. Space Force from pad 39A on December 10 at 8:14 p.m. EST. The launch window stretches 10 minutes. The side boosters will land back at the Cape eight minutes after launch. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on December 10 at 11:00 p.m. EST or later.

Launch window for Florida Starlink Group 6 December launches would therefore be 04:00 to 08:31 UTC:
Two NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas). No Rocket Launching notice yet.

Note that these are multi-launch notices which run through the end of December (which unfortunately makes it harder to know when future launches are scheduled).

Ignore the "CANCEL HYDROLANT 2683/23(35)" in the first notice. This is not a cancel-and-replace of a prior Space Debris notice. HYDROLANT 2683/23 is an unrelated notice which was sent out without an expiration date, so for some reason they chose to cancel it as part of this notice instead of sending out a standalone cancellation.

Quote from: NGA
261722Z NOV 23
HYDROLANT 2733/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   DAILY 0558Z TO 1027Z 02 THRU 31 DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL HYDROLANT 2683/23(35).
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 311127Z DEC 23.
Quote from: NGA
261722Z NOV 23
HYDROPAC 3743/23(57,61,71).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   DAILY 0558Z TO 1027Z 02 THRU 31 DEC
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 311127Z DEC 23.



The SLC-40 Starlink mission that may follow the out-of numerical order Starlink 6-32 launch is likely to launch in late December, also after Ovzon-3.  Assuming that SpaceX returns to launching its Florida Starlink Group 6's in ascending numerical order, this launch will be 6-35.  It is currently listed with launch NET December, from either Kennedy LC-39A or Canaveral SLC-40.

However, LC-39A will likely not be available due returning the ground support equipment to launch Falcon 9's.

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7318



Starlink 6-33 successfully launched December 7 UTC, before the USSF-52 December 10 launch from LC-39A, with the first stage successfully landing aboard JRTI.

Starlink 6-34 is currently scheduled to launch December 11 UTC, directly after USSF-52, with the first stage landing aboard ASOG.

Ovzon-3 is currently scheduled to launch from SLC-40 on December 14, with the first stage landing at LZ-1.  (Launch date also subject to change?)

Starlink 6-32 could launch circa December 18 or 19 UTC, with the first stage landing on either ASOG or JRTI.  (4 days SLC-40 turnaround, 8 days ASDS turnaround)

Starlink 6-35 could launch circa December 22 or 23, working around Christmas holiday travel demands of commercial airlines.  (4 days SLC-40 turnaround, 8 days ASDS turnaround.)
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NextSpaceflight (Updated December 7th)
Launch from KSC LC-39A
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7318

(this - probably occurring as the ~December 15 Ovzon-3 launch is RTLS and leaves space for usage of ASDS - leaves the "Road to 100" wide open. If not for this SLC-40 will need to handle another 4 more launches before the year is out after Ovzon-3, with the last maybe around Dec 30/31.)
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NextSpaceflight (Updated December 7th)
Launch from KSC LC-39A
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7318

(this - probably occurring as the ~December 15 Ovzon-3 launch is RTLS and leaves space for usage of ASDS - leaves the "Road to 100" wide open. If not for this SLC-40 will need to handle another 4 more launches before the year is out after Ovzon-3, with the last maybe around Dec 30/31.)

Also, there is time for one LC-39A Falcon 9 launch campaign after the GSE in converted to support a single stick launch, and before IM-1 NET January 12.

If the pad GSE conversion FH > F9 takes approximately 2 weeks, then launch would be circa December 25.  There may be some dodging of the busiest air travel days, but launching the recent Florida Starlink Group 6 clusters after 11 pm EST to the southeast seems to work.

I was just about to speculate such in the Falcon discussion thread.

This is new...
2269-EX-ST-2023  RTLS option for Mission 1909 Starlink Group 6-35 from Cape Canaveral FL at LC-40 CCAFS or LC-39a at KSC
[Launch NET Dec 9]

2270-EX-ST-2023  RTLS option for Mission 1910 Starlink Group 6-36 from Cape Canaveral FL at LC-40 CCAFS or LC-39a at KSC
[Launch NET Dec 15]

Also, first stage recovery changed from ASDS to unknown.  RTLS for the great preponderance of Falcon 9 launches would be a game-changer towards 144 SpaceX launches in 2024. 🎮

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Also, first stage recovery changed from ASDS to unknown.  RTLS for the great preponderance of Falcon 9 launches would be a game-changer towards 144 SpaceX launches in 2024. 🎮

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Why "great preponderance" as opposed to alternating ASDS and RTLS?

If they can get the pad ready in 2.5 days and ASDS has been doing 8 day turnaround, this would give them a 4 day /2.5 day = 60% theoretically possible speed up. So it looks like enough of a speed up and they get more mass / satellites to orbit this way.

If they can only get pad ready in 3 days then 4/3= 33% speed up, but in last few months they have been doing close to 10 a month so it might be sufficient to get to 144.

In either of those cases, doing noticeably more than 50% RTLS launches wouldn't help because the limit is pad turnaround not ASDS related so using ASDS as often as possible, which is ~50% of time, gets more mass/satellites to orbit and doesn't slow down launch rate.

If the pad turnaround time was 2 days or less then maybe a majority of launches being RTLS would help but in this case I think the target numbet of launches would be higher than 144.

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does it need to be more than one in three on East coast being RTLS?

see and move discussion to
How does launch optimisation work best re using RTLS vs ASDS vs a partial boostback to reduce ASDS turnaround time?
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How late can USSF-52/OTV-7 launch from LC-39A before Starlink 6-35 is squeezed out by IM-1 (Jan 13 UTC) and must wait to NET mid-January?
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Assuming this launch remains at LC-39A, I suspect that Starlink 6-35 will launch after IM-1 and before Crew-8.  From the USSF-52/OTV-7 thread today:
Given that Doug is returning to Port Canaveral, I'd say the next launch attempt is at least ~1 week away as for the first attempt Doug departed ~4 days before launch:
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SpaceX recovery ship Doug is returning to Port Canaveral following the delay to the Falcon Heavy USSF-52 mission. The ship was due to recover the fairing.

The ship retuning indicates a long-term delay.
https://twitter.com/SpaceOffshore/status/1734985872213209333

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1734994058945134598
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USSF-52 might slip more, as SpaceX has started the process of bringing Falcon Heavy into a horizontal position.

Now the question is if they can perform the needed work on the pad, or if we will see a rollback to the hangar.

Link: nsf.live/spacecoast
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This launch is no longer happening from 39A

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This launch is no longer happening from 39A.

There is no more time for a December 2023 launch at either Kennedy LC-39A or Canaveral SLC-40; launch NET January 2024 after Ovzon-3 (currently January 3?), from SLC-40.

LC-39A is occupied by the USSF-52/OTV-7 Falcon Heavy launch campaign, immediately followed by Axiom-3 on Falcon 9.

Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated December 22:
<Ovzon-3>
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Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.
<Axiom-3, currently Jan 17>

The Peregrine launch from SLC-41 may introduce a cutout in a Starlink launch campaign from SLC-40 when it cannot launch, while Vulcan is exposed on the pad?  If so, then the Starlink launch would likely follow that of Peregrine (currently pre-dawn January 8th).

Cross-post:
SLC-40 launches hypothetical schedule:

Starlink 6-34: Dec 19 UTC
+ 4 days
Starlink 6-32: Dec 23 UTC
+ 6 days
Starlink 6-36: NET Dec 29 UTC (immediately after Falcon Heavy)
+ 5 days
Ovzon 3: Jan 3
+ 5 days
Starlink 6-35: ~Jan 8? (after Vulcan)
+ 4 days
Starlink 6-37: NET mid Jan, ~Jan 12?
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Curious as to how the Starlink January Florida launch schedule will shake out and when this RTLS launch will go? 🤔

Edit/add
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated December 29:
<Ovzon-3, currently Jan 3>
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Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40.
<Axiom-3, currently Jan 17>
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Cross-post re: Vulcan/Peregrine rollout:
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@torybruno getting really excited!  Hows the rocket doing, is she ready to lift off? When do we expect to see that beautiful stack roll out?

Quote from: Tory Bruno
Its going well.  Well roll on Friday [Jan 5] if the weather holds. [Jan 2]
(Probably?) no Falcon 9/Starlink launches from SLC-40 while Vulcan is exposed on SLC-41, morning? Jan 5 through NET pre-dawn Jan 8.

Edit: No.
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NET 7 January per these NOTAMs - 2nd stage re-entry zone was moved 7 hours earlier than usual lately (22:50 - 03:44 UTC) which means target T-0 might be NET 4 pm EST = 21:00 UTC, likely to avoid the launch windows for Vulcan/Peregrine in the middle of the night.

F4537/23 NOTAMN
Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/1500S08339E750
A) YMMM
B) 2401072250 C) 2401140344
D) DAILY 2250-0344
E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE
FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:
HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND
SPLASHDOWN OF LAUNCH VEHICLE FALCON-9 STARLINK 6-35 WI THE FOLLOWING
AREAS:
2033S 07500E
0746S 08927E
0853S 09228E
2422S 07500E TO BEGINNING

PRIMARY LAUNCH 240107
BACKUP AS PER FIELD D
F) SFC G) UNL


A0002/24 NOTAMN
Q) FAJO/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/4205S02620E999
A) FAJO B) 2401072250 C) 2401140344
D) DLY 2250-0344
E) AREA BOUNDED BY (4256S 00224W, 4045S 00221W, 3210S 05700E, 3515S
05700E): SPACEX STARLINK 6-35 ROCKET RE-ENTRY OPS TAKING PLACE.
APPLICABLE AIRSPACE DOWNGRADED TO CLASS G.
F) SFC G) UNL
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NGA Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas). No Rocket Launching notice yet.

Quote from: NGA
030447Z JAN 24
HYDROLANT 12/24(GEN).
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
INDIAN OCEAN.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   2258Z TO 0327Z DAILY 07 THRU 14 JAN
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 150427Z JAN 24.//
Quote from: NGA
030447Z JAN 24
HYDROPAC 30/24(GEN).
INDIAN OCEAN.
EASTERN SOUTH ATLANTIC.
DNC 01, DNC 02, DNC 03.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   2258Z TO 0327Z DAILY 07 THRU 14 JAN
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   08-53.00S 092-28.00E, 07-46.00S 089-27.00E,
   30-12.00S 061-09.00E, 40-45.00S 002-21.00W,
   42-56.00S 002-24.00W, 32-16.00S 063-10.00E.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 150427Z JAN 24.//

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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA
030510Z JAN 24
NAVAREA IV 7/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   072100Z TO 080131Z JAN, ALTERNATE
   082100Z TO 090131Z, 092100Z TO 100131Z,
   102100Z TO 110131Z, 112100Z TO 120131Z,
   122100Z TO 130131Z, 132100Z TO 140131Z JAN
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.00N 080-37.69W, 28-39.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-27.00N 080-04.00W, 28-22.00N 080-05.00W,
      28-21.00N 080-11.00W, 28-23.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-29.35N 080-32.49W, 28-39.00N 080-37.69W.
   B. 26-15.00N 076-00.00W, 26-06.00N 074-58.00W,
      25-36.00N 074-03.00W, 25-23.00N 073-53.00W,
      25-09.00N 074-01.00W, 25-06.00N 074-16.00W,
      25-08.00N 074-38.00W, 25-18.00N 075-00.00W,
      25-58.00N 075-59.00W, 26-15.00N 076-00.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 140231Z JAN 24.//

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Cross-post:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated January 2:
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<snip>
A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on January 7 in the afternoon EST.
<snip>



Edit/add
No first stage landing at LZ-1.  ASDS should be ASOG, given the damage JRTI received from B1058.20 toppling over on deck.
NGA Rocket Launching notice.
Identical to 6-28, 6-29, 6-31, 6-32, 6-33, 6-34 and 6-36. ASDS 630km downrange.



Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

The May 16, 2023, press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches.  See B1058.20 (R.I.P.) 👀 😱  As of the Korea Project 425 rideshare launch, non-Starlink launches apparently qualify as well.

1064.6 and 1065.6 are the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Europa Clipper.

1080.5 is reserved for Axiom-3.  1072.1 is reserved for Cygnus NG-20.

1073.12 and 1076.11 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are currently available for "single-stick" launches.

My question: Are any of the oldest first stages, example--B1060, too old to provide sufficient performance margins to fly a heavier-mass Starlink RTLS mission?

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1060.18  Sep 24
1073.12  Nov 8
1067.16  Nov 22
1062.18  Nov 28
1078.7    Dec 3
1077.10  Dec 7
1081.4    Dec 19 (maybe)

Edit January 6: It's B1067.16, skipping over B1060.18 and B1073.12.
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Identical to 6-28, 6-29, 6-31, 6-32, 6-33, 6-34 and 6-36. ASDS 630km downrange.

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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp:

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SPACE X STARLINK 6-35
CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   01/07/24   2100Z-0131Z
BACKUP:      01/08-13/24   2100Z-0131Z

Signet Warhorse III + ASOG departed PC on Jan 4 @ 8:47am ET

[UPDATE:  Loitering by the PC Anchor location since ~10am ET]

[UPDATE:  SWIII + ASOG hit the water for good just after 5pm ET]
« Last Edit: 01/05/2024 03:31 am by realnouns »

Doug departed PC on Jan 5 @ 5:02pm ET

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