What will New Armstrong look like ? Is it supposed to use the same BE-4, BE-4U and BE-3U engines than New Glenn ?
Quote from: Mike Jones on 11/04/2017 08:38 amImpressive if that is the case ... 2 bn$ invested by Jeff Bezos in Blue Origin in 2017 alone ! That should bring a strong momentum to their major development programmes : New Shepard and New Glenn. Maybe Blue Moon lander as well ? According to Crunchbase, SpaceX has only raised 1,5bn$ in equity in total (mainly in 2015 and 2017 to be fair). https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/space-exploration-technologiesOr something spooked Bezos and he suddenly thinks New Glenn will not be enough?Maybe they skip the reusable second stage for NG and go straight for NA.
Impressive if that is the case ... 2 bn$ invested by Jeff Bezos in Blue Origin in 2017 alone ! That should bring a strong momentum to their major development programmes : New Shepard and New Glenn. Maybe Blue Moon lander as well ? According to Crunchbase, SpaceX has only raised 1,5bn$ in equity in total (mainly in 2015 and 2017 to be fair). https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/space-exploration-technologies
Fat budgets are not good from a project management perspective. Better to run lean.
Quote from: Lar on 11/05/2017 01:38 pmFat budgets are not good from a project management perspective. Better to run lean.JB's fat budget can be used to dev. NA as soon as possible.
Can be. No evidence to support *is*, though. lots of gradatim. (VERY gradual) Lots of ferociter (directed as snark at the achievements of others) ... not a lot of launch...
Quote from: DJPledger on 11/05/2017 01:59 pmQuote from: Lar on 11/05/2017 01:38 pmFat budgets are not good from a project management perspective. Better to run lean.JB's fat budget can be used to dev. NA as soon as possible.Can be. No evidence to support *is*, though. lots of gradatim. (VERY gradual) Lots of ferociter (directed as snark at the achievements of others) ... not a lot of launch...
Why should they be incentivized to be cost efficient ? They will have Jeff ‘Sugar Daddy’ Bezos (at least for the next few years) to compensate any development overcosts and to pay the difference between their initial ultra low prices on New Glenn and the real cost of building such a giant orbital vehicle.
Any evidence of overcosts or info about their prices? or is this just handwaving (like the rest of this thread)?
A little tiny part of me (the part I've yet to trap in a dark corner and smother with a pillow) still thinks that maybe sometime in the mid-2020s, maybe the mid-2030s, Blue Origin will stop getting ready to change the space industry and actually change the space industry.I have hope.
I kind of doubt Blue would have a huge New Glenn factory being built right now if it weren't for SpaceX. It was always in Blue's plans, sure, but SpaceX has forced them to expedite things, IMHO.
Quote from: QuantumG on 11/06/2017 06:53 amMeh. If John Carmack hadn't pulled the plug Armadillo Aerospace probably would have cleared 100 km, fully reusable, back in 2014... for less than $10 million spent. It's nice that Blue Origin has flown anything but it's not a billion dollar achievement.I kind of think that Bezos is building things on his own terms, not what a bunch of people on the internet think. I really don't get why people have to get on BO's case all the time when it comes to their timescales.
Meh. If John Carmack hadn't pulled the plug Armadillo Aerospace probably would have cleared 100 km, fully reusable, back in 2014... for less than $10 million spent. It's nice that Blue Origin has flown anything but it's not a billion dollar achievement.