Andor **** SPOILER Discussion ****

[catdlr]

https://gizmodo.com/we-may-be-a-step-closer-to-seeing-the-original-star-wars-again-2000615656

That came about as BMI discovered they had an original "First Print" Technicolor full-length master that was never used:




And that discovery led to this announcement:

[Blackstar]

[ugordan]

Andor is a show that has staying power. People will be watching and rewatching this for years, something that can't really be said for other Disney SW products.

[catdlr]

Andor is a show that has staying power. People will be watching and rewatching this for years, something that can't really be said for other Disney SW products.

It will have cult power, similar to Blade Runner. Although not initially well-received, it has a lasting impact and eventually gave us a sequel. I'm glad that in my lifetime I had the chance to see this.

[Blackstar]

Andor is a show that has staying power. People will be watching and rewatching this for years, something that can't really be said for other Disney SW products.

It will have cult power, similar to Blade Runner. Although not initially well-received, it has a lasting impact and eventually gave us a sequel. I'm glad that in my lifetime I had the chance to see this.

Yeah, I agree that Andor will have something more akin to "cult staying power." The other shows are more lightweight. You could get your grandma to watch the show with the cute Baby Yoda, but you're not going to get her to engage in Andor.

But I do think that Andor did something remarkable, making a Star Wars story that was truly for adults, and that also changed the interpretation of some of the other films. No longer lightweight kids fantasy, but a more serious exploration of issues.

[sanman]

Andor is a show that has staying power. People will be watching and rewatching this for years, something that can't really be said for other Disney SW products.

It will have cult power, similar to Blade Runner. Although not initially well-received, it has a lasting impact and eventually gave us a sequel. I'm glad that in my lifetime I had the chance to see this.

Yeah, I agree that Andor will have something more akin to "cult staying power." The other shows are more lightweight. You could get your grandma to watch the show with the cute Baby Yoda, but you're not going to get her to engage in Andor.

But I do think that Andor did something remarkable, making a Star Wars story that was truly for adults, and that also changed the interpretation of some of the other films. No longer lightweight kids fantasy, but a more serious exploration of issues.

Now that this vein has been mined and struck paydirt, there will be other imitators who try the same.

I think there needs to be a serious look at Blake's 7.
There needs to be some kind of re-make of that show, but with a bigger budget, preferably one the size of Andor's.
Those who've enjoyed Andor would probably like Blake's 7.

[Blackstar]

I think there needs to be a serious look at Blake's 7.
There needs to be some kind of re-make of that show, but with a bigger budget, preferably one the size of Andor's.
Those who've enjoyed Andor would probably like Blake's 7.

Yeah, $30 million an episode for a Blake's 7 remake.

[Blackstar]

[catdlr]

I think this guy got the definition correct for what a rebellion means; it is lost after lost until we get hope.

How Andor Season 2 changes how you see Star Wars, forever

Jun 14, 2025  #andor #starwars #videoessay
#starwars, #andor, #videoessay

Star Wars is built on hope, right?  It’s right there in the title: A New Hope.

Except... Season 2 of Andor flips this idea of hope on its head - and shows us what it really takes to build a Rebellion.  The messiness, the tragedy, the sacrifice. 

Tony Gilroy and his team have ensured that we can never watch Star Wars the same way again.  The galaxy has become richer, deeper, and more poignant.

So today, I want to explore all the journeys of Cassian, Luthen, Mon Mothma, Bix, Kleya, Vel, Syril, and Dedra - and what it means to build a Rebellion.

I hope you enjoy - and please drop a comment below to let me know what you thought!

-Kapil

[Blackstar]

SWFT's videos are so great:

[catdlr]

SWFT's videos are so great:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DIXTZ3Jg9fU

Yes, I agree and I'm most excited when one pops up.

[catdlr]

K-2SO, Kleya are arriving soon.

[catdlr]

Now that Andor is finished, all the pieces of the construction of the Death Star can be arranged and told in this video:

100 FACTS about the DEATH STAR (Post Andor S2)

[sanman]

[Blackstar]

[ugordan]

[catdlr]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywcxtloa2Tc

In contrast to other characters within the Star Wars universe who developed profound connections with their droid counterparts and assistants, Cassian regarded both B2 and K2 merely as assistants, perceiving them as expendable if necessary.

[sanman]

In contrast to other characters within the Star Wars universe who developed profound connections with their droid counterparts and assistants, Cassian regarded both B2 and K2 merely as assistants, perceiving them as expendable if necessary.

We needed more seasons. They didn't have time to develop the Cassian-K2 relationship, and had to sacrifice a whole lot of storytelling to condense it from the desired 5 seasons down to the 2 we got. Even 1 more season could have made a lot of difference there.

We just need to know the names of the bean-counters who nixed the fuller production run, so that we can critique them over their decision.

[ugordan]

They didn't have time to develop the Cassian-K2 relationship, and had to sacrifice a whole lot of storytelling to condense it from the desired 5 seasons down to the 2 we got. Even 1 more season could have made a lot of difference there.

We just need to know the names of the bean-counters who nixed the fuller production run, so that we can critique them over their decision.

The decision to introduce K2 so late in the season was a deliberate one by Gilroy. He realized you really couldn't do much with him (being part comedic relief character, part superman), that would add anything of substance to the overall serious narrative of Andor if he was introduced any earlier.

Personally, I think they struck the right balance. They gave him an origin story and employed him effectively when the $hit hit the fan and the crew needed him the most.

[Blackstar]

The decision to introduce K2 so late in the season was a deliberate one by Gilroy. He realized you really couldn't do much with him (being part comedic relief character, part superman), that would add anything of substance to the overall serious narrative of Andor if he was introduced any earlier.

Personally, I think they struck the right balance. They gave him an origin story and employed him effectively when the $hit hit the fan and the crew needed him the most.

I agree. I think the problem with K2 was that he was already known as comic relief, and that was wrong for the story. I am still amazed at how good Andor was at not being too grim. It struck a perfect tone, and keeping K2 out of the story until late was important for that tone.