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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #40 on: 09/14/2007 11:06 am »
ESA updated the web page:

12:55 We regret to announce that for technical reasonst the launch streaming is not available.

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #41 on: 09/14/2007 11:08 am »
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ESA updated the web page:

12:55 We regret to announce that for technical reasonst the launch streaming is not available.

Well, we have to wait for news from Baykonur ...

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #42 on: 09/14/2007 11:10 am »
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ESA updated the web page:

12:55 We regret to announce that for technical reasonst the launch streaming is not available.

but this was added after T-0, wasn't it?

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #43 on: 09/14/2007 11:15 am »
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Well, we have to wait for news from Baykonur ...

Launched on time!
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/09/14/foton/
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Thanks. Very annoying that we didn't get to see this live.
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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #45 on: 09/14/2007 11:21 am »
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Launched on time!
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2007/09/14/foton/

And confirmation of smooth launch from ESA:

Press Release No.28-07, Paris, 14 September 2007

Lift-off for Foton microgravity mission

An unmanned Foton spacecraft, carrying a payload of more than 40 ESA experiments, was successfully launched earlier today. The Soyuz-U launcher lifted off from Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan, at 13:00 CEST (11:00 GMT).

Nearly 9 minutes later, the Russian Foton-M3 spacecraft separated from the rocket's upper stage and was inserted into a 300 km orbit that will carry it around the Earth once every 90 minutes.
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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #46 on: 09/14/2007 11:22 am »
Very discouraging Especially the communication of ESA

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #47 on: 09/14/2007 11:24 am »
There's an other webcast tonight: European Space Agency News Conference with STS-120 Mission Specialist Paolo Nespoli. This will be broadcast by NASA so that will probably work ok.  :)

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #48 on: 09/14/2007 11:27 am »
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Very discouraging Especially the communication of ESA

It's not the first time we see situations like this from ESA. Thet realy need to do something abou it.

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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #49 on: 09/14/2007 12:01 pm »
Anyway, ESA has sent their best photographer - Stephane Corvaja - to cover the mission. So we can at least expect some nice lift-off images...

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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #50 on: 09/14/2007 12:08 pm »
Oh, well that is ok then. *rolls eyes* ESA media=joke. 1000s of school students were watching a black screen today :(

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Re: LIVE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #51 on: 09/14/2007 12:14 pm »
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nolho - 14/9/2007  6:22 AM

Very discouraging Especially the communication of ESA

It's not the first time we see situations like this from ESA. Thet realy need to do something abou it.

As long as ESA does not have an explicit mandate to inform the European public about space and engage in education relating to space science etc. (+have a budget worth mentioning to do so), situations like this are bound to reoccur. Technical problems of webcasts etc. need to be tackled beforehand, so that they don't occur when you are about to go live. ESA should take a look at how Arianespace is doing their launch webcasts.

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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #52 on: 09/14/2007 12:20 pm »
Shame about the webcast, lets just hope the mission goes well. Somehow I think it's an extremely cool mission, both the hardware (it's heritage) and the possibilities of the Foton/Bion spacecraft are amazing. Hope to see it return in 1 piece and hope that in the future we will see more Foton M launches (with webcast)

Interesting to see that Foton M carried live animals, while it was originally intended for materials processing experiments. Bion on the other hand focused on biological experiments.
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RE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #53 on: 09/14/2007 12:20 pm »
It's a little ironic that ESA's site is excellent, whereas NASA's site is, errr, not all that great (or you at least need a compass and a survival kit to find the good stuff). Yet NASA's launch coverage is excellent, while ESA's struggles.

Arianespace's webcast, I agree, is superb....you could put that on a TV channel and people would watch.

Frustrating today, but if there's nothing they could do, then there was nothing they could do. Technical issues happen. I'd take mission success over a webcast working, rather than the webcast working and the vehicle failing.
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RE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #54 on: 09/14/2007 12:35 pm »
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Chris Bergin - 14/9/2007  2:20 PM

It's a little ironic that ESA's site is excellent, whereas NASA's site is, errr, not all that great (or you at least need a compass and a survival kit to find the good stuff). Yet NASA's launch coverage is excellent, while ESA's struggles.

Arianespace's webcast, I agree, is superb....you could put that on a TV channel and people would watch.

Frustrating today, but if there's nothing they could do, then there was nothing they could do. Technical issues happen. I'd take mission success over a webcast working, rather than the webcast working and the vehicle failing.

Certainly. Even though... vehicle failing on a live webcast CAN be exciting, too, IIR SeaLaunch earlier this year correctly...

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RE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #55 on: 09/14/2007 12:44 pm »
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Chris Bergin - 14/9/2007  2:20 PM
It's a little ironic that ESA's site is excellent, whereas NASA's site is, errr, not all that great (or you at least need a compass and a survival kit to find the good stuff). Yet NASA's launch coverage is excellent, while ESA's struggles.
They should contract out all the live stuff to Arianespace. At least they know how a webcast should be done!
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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #56 on: 09/14/2007 02:01 pm »
2 questions

*Where there any non ESA experiments on board?
*What was the reason for shifting this launch from Plestek to Baikonur?

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RE: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #57 on: 09/14/2007 02:15 pm »
Report of Russian NTV channel about this launch is on http://news.ntv.ru/116890/

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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #58 on: 09/14/2007 02:48 pm »
For my money, this mission is more meaniful than SELENE!

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Re: Soyuz launch with Foton-M3 and YES2 - 14 Sept 2007
« Reply #59 on: 09/16/2007 07:29 pm »
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sammie - 14/9/2007  10:01 AM

2 questions

*Where there any non ESA experiments on board?

Foton-M3 included Russian and Canadian experiments.

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*What was the reason for shifting this launch from Plestek to Baikonur?

Foton M2 was launched from Baikonur as well. I am not aware that M3 was scheduled for launch from Plesetsk.

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