Errr, as a vegetarian I can only confirm that you do NOT require animal protein or products for a healthy diet.
Errr, as a vegetarian I can only confirm that you do NOT require animal protein or products for a healthy diet. That is just one of those urban myths. If it is any consolation, non meat products mimiking meat have come a long way, and by the time you'll eat your fungus cheese burger on Mars you won't be noting any difference. I'd miss the cows though, such nice animals, lovely eyes Cheers,Chris
Semi - Interesting tidbit; in these local climes the wild mushroom season is just coming to an end, in particular the "hunt" for morels, a sort of semi box like fungi that grows out to about 3-4 inches long on average.In conversing with one of the local Emergency Room Doctors, trips to the ER pick up for gastric distress this time of year due to undercooked, or semi-cooked morels. Apparently they contain hydrazine, and if you consume them raw or do not allow for enough time to cook thru the hydrazine is only partially released into the fiber of the morel iteself, and in turn into one's digestive tract after consumption.There is obviously an economy of scale issue - but one wonders, how many morels to produce a sufficient quantinty of hydrazine for any ongoing necessary purpose at a future Mars site?
Properly gene tailored, they could, in theory, be QUITE a source for hydrazine. But then again, with a bit of gene tailoring, in theory, we could grow Solid Rocket Cores from trees, (I think John Varley did that in the book "Titan") Unfortnately, I somehow doubt that the US foretry service would take too kindly to a grove of trees having the explosive capibilities of a Saturn V rocket in the Fire Season. Nice to dream though...
Quote from: DARPA-86 on 05/21/2014 12:24 pmSemi - Interesting tidbit; in these local climes the wild mushroom season is just coming to an end, in particular the "hunt" for morels, a sort of semi box like fungi that grows out to about 3-4 inches long on average.In conversing with one of the local Emergency Room Doctors, trips to the ER pick up for gastric distress this time of year due to undercooked, or semi-cooked morels. Apparently they contain hydrazine, and if you consume them raw or do not allow for enough time to cook thru the hydrazine is only partially released into the fiber of the morel iteself, and in turn into one's digestive tract after consumption.There is obviously an economy of scale issue - but one wonders, how many morels to produce a sufficient quantinty of hydrazine for any ongoing necessary purpose at a future Mars site?Properly gene tailored, they could, in theory, be QUITE a source for hydrazine. But then again, with a bit of gene tailoring, in theory, we could grow Solid Rocket Cores from trees, (I think John Varley did that in the book "Titan") Unfortnately, I somehow doubt that the US foretry service would take too kindly to a grove of trees having the explosive capibilities of a Saturn V rocket in the Fire Season. Nice to dream though...
Quote from: JasonAW3 on 05/21/2014 01:01 pmQuote from: DARPA-86 on 05/21/2014 12:24 pmSemi - Interesting tidbit; in these local climes the wild mushroom season is just coming to an end, in particular the "hunt" for morels, a sort of semi box like fungi that grows out to about 3-4 inches long on average.In conversing with one of the local Emergency Room Doctors, trips to the ER pick up for gastric distress this time of year due to undercooked, or semi-cooked morels. Apparently they contain hydrazine, and if you consume them raw or do not allow for enough time to cook thru the hydrazine is only partially released into the fiber of the morel iteself, and in turn into one's digestive tract after consumption.There is obviously an economy of scale issue - but one wonders, how many morels to produce a sufficient quantinty of hydrazine for any ongoing necessary purpose at a future Mars site?Properly gene tailored, they could, in theory, be QUITE a source for hydrazine. But then again, with a bit of gene tailoring, in theory, we could grow Solid Rocket Cores from trees, (I think John Varley did that in the book "Titan") Unfortnately, I somehow doubt that the US foretry service would take too kindly to a grove of trees having the explosive capibilities of a Saturn V rocket in the Fire Season. Nice to dream though...A future Mars site, where these trees would grow, doesn't have a fire season. Not unless we want to, that is. But picknicking in this kind of forest would be highly restricted.
Quote from: high road on 05/22/2014 11:03 amQuote from: JasonAW3 on 05/21/2014 01:01 pmQuote from: DARPA-86 on 05/21/2014 12:24 pmSemi - Interesting tidbit; in these local climes the wild mushroom season is just coming to an end, in particular the "hunt" for morels, a sort of semi box like fungi that grows out to about 3-4 inches long on average.In conversing with one of the local Emergency Room Doctors, trips to the ER pick up for gastric distress this time of year due to undercooked, or semi-cooked morels. Apparently they contain hydrazine, and if you consume them raw or do not allow for enough time to cook thru the hydrazine is only partially released into the fiber of the morel iteself, and in turn into one's digestive tract after consumption.There is obviously an economy of scale issue - but one wonders, how many morels to produce a sufficient quantinty of hydrazine for any ongoing necessary purpose at a future Mars site?Properly gene tailored, they could, in theory, be QUITE a source for hydrazine. But then again, with a bit of gene tailoring, in theory, we could grow Solid Rocket Cores from trees, (I think John Varley did that in the book "Titan") Unfortnately, I somehow doubt that the US foretry service would take too kindly to a grove of trees having the explosive capibilities of a Saturn V rocket in the Fire Season. Nice to dream though...A future Mars site, where these trees would grow, doesn't have a fire season. Not unless we want to, that is. But picknicking in this kind of forest would be highly restricted.One hot, dry summer season... boom!Whoops! There goes New Jersey... They're off to outer space...
That might be fun for the 4th of july celebrations, but probably a tad costly.
I expect quite the party on 'supply mission arrival eve'.
Might not be a big market for fireworks though.
I expect the opposite. A standard firework will work a treat on Mars. It contains its own oxidiser. Just don't fire it at the plastic covered greenhouses.
Quote from: guckyfan on 05/26/2014 02:17 pmI expect the opposite. A standard firework will work a treat on Mars. It contains its own oxidiser. Just don't fire it at the plastic covered greenhouses.Stop! That's not a firework! That's our return rocket!
Columbus and Cortez allegedly burned their boats. That doesn't seem like a good approach in this case