Maybe that's what we should do, I don't think it's what would happen.
Quote from: aero on 06/23/2012 02:35 pmMaybe that's what we should do, I don't think it's what would happen.I initially took your remark at face value, considering our current political ... ...Your tentative vision of the future could come to pass, I suppose, but you don't have to worry that Mars will be overrun by people anytime soon. ...That's about all I'll speculate on.
If life was discovered in fossilized form, the morphology would then be associated to 'something' on Earth.
The coupling with Earth native creatures would be established and every sample of that Earth creature would be tested until its extinction in 100 years.
Then, somebody is going to have to explain how that creature evolved in such a rapid way in a Pre-Noahcian era on Mars.
During this time frame, nothing is known to have existed on Earth in microbial form.
So it would be a substantial blow to the theory of evolution.
The origin would be the next topic to determine, which I would claim could only be substantiated using a time machine.
Those people from the TV show Ancient Aliens will be dancing in the streets telling everyone 'I told you so'.
Unfortunately I fear that if something is found that is microbial and living, this would become the next biggest thing in military research. Mars would be owned by the military/united nations in 5 years maximum.
I think there are more important things to research under NASA in the trans nepunian domain.
If there ever is a Mars mission. That would be the last.
This manned ring station is about as close as well potentially see in our lifetime. Don't think going to the surface is a wise idea.
I think this is a hot topic. 1) If life was discovered in fossilized form, the morphology would then be associated to 'something' on Earth. 2) The coupling with Earth native creatures would be established and every sample of that Earth creature would be tested until its extinction in 100 years.3) Then, somebody is going to have to explain how that creature evolved in such a rapid way in a Pre-Noahcian era on Mars. During this time frame, nothing is known to have existed on Earth in microbial form. So it would be a substantial blow to the theory of evolution. The origin would be the next topic to determine, which I would claim could only be substantiated using a time machine.4) Those people from the TV show Ancient Aliens will be dancing in the streets telling everyone 'I told you so'. 5) Unfortunately I fear that if something is found that is microbial and living, this would become the next biggest thing in military research. Mars would be owned by the military/united nations in 5 years maximum.6) I think there are more important things to research under NASA in the trans nepunian [gotta be neptunian, right?] domain. If there ever is a Mars mission. That would be the last.7) This manned ring station is about as close as well potentially see in our lifetime. Don't think going to the surface is a wise idea.
What if we found a variety of fossilized bones of large and small life forms on Mars? Would we study them or decide they proved that microbial life must still exist somewhere on or in Mars, and ban further investigation?Or would we decide that dominant life forms were extinct therefore Mars is a dead world available to us for the taking?
Wow, that's nice, Phill!
... Trans nepunian research is providing ACTUAL evidence for a potential discovery.
Well to me, if you can show that a life form was capable of evolving almost one to five orders of magnitude faster than what may have happened on Earth.... you have a problem. Because if one species has gained full technological capabilities several millions of years earlier than the other... you cannot simply argue away intelligent design.
Quote from: Dalhousie on 06/24/2012 09:41 pmWhy would such a discovery led to a banning of further investigations?Dalhousie...You must read the techinque called the five whys by Toyoda. It not only answers some of the problem, but also provides a solution. Here is a Wikipedia link in a language that you can more easily understand: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Why's
Why would such a discovery led to a banning of further investigations?
Now. What evidence in the universe would be a blow to the 'theory' of evolution. Apparently most of the evolutionists believe their theory is absolute. All evidence must is held guilty until proven innocent. Pretty much like a Klingon court of law.
Well to me, if you can show that a life form was capable of evolving almost one to five orders of magnitude faster than what may have happened on Earth.... you have a problem.
Because if one species has gained full technological capabilities several millions of years earlier than the other... you cannot simply argue away intelligent design.
Trans nepunian research is providing ACTUAL evidence for a potential discovery. The search for life on Mars is only a 'snipe' hunt. Actual evidence trumps wishful thinking everytime (except when you are being tried in a Klingon court).
If evidence of life Mars were discovered ... there will be an OMG moment...
...this oil on canvas painting ...
Quote from: cosmicvoid on 06/26/2012 07:35 amQuote from: Mr. Scott on 06/26/2012 12:51 am... Trans nepunian research is providing ACTUAL evidence for a potential discovery.This sounds like a lot of armwaving. What actual evidence are you referring to?Just hit TNO or trans neptunian object into Google News. Here is what I got that was hot off the press as of eight hours ago:http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2012/06261021-salacia.htmlA month ago, a presentation was given about orbital variations of Sedna. The conclusion was something bigger than Earth past our solar system. Will find that link later....
Quote from: Mr. Scott on 06/26/2012 12:51 am... Trans nepunian research is providing ACTUAL evidence for a potential discovery.This sounds like a lot of armwaving. What actual evidence are you referring to?
So to the thread. There hasn't been even a hint of life, habitability or the actual discovery of accessible resources such as water on Mars since we've landed in 1976.
This would be like saying.... We need to go find a pink elephant in the zoo. Has anyone seen the pink elephant? No, but we're going to keep looking because that is 'science'.