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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #380 on: 01/22/2021 02:32 pm »
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In days gone by that would have been enough for one year…
Yes, but now the poisonous beauty only takes off once or twice a year. There are few payloads.
The list can also be incomplete, are just the numbers that I have read.

Furthermore, perhaps in the future "Obelix" (Angara A5) should transport something different to menhirs.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #381 on: 01/23/2021 02:51 pm »
There is no Anik G2V.

Is that "no Anik G2V for 2019" or "no Anik G2V on the ILS launch manifest"?

More than that--Anik G2V does not exist.

Its "existence" derived from a flub during a Khrunichev press conference.  That statement was posted in this sub-forum.  The translated quote is here.  Khrunichev later issued a correction, but none of us here at NSF saw the correction.  Today, I checked the RIA article quoted in that post--no correction there.

As stated earlier in this thread, no NSF contributor had found any other mention of such a satellite--not from Telesat Canada, not from the GEO-comm satellite manufacturers, and not from ILS.
But he lives on as a ghost in the launchlist for 2021... ;D
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #382 on: 03/16/2021 05:28 pm »
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Piggybacked:
TBD (xxx:xx:xx:xx.xxx) - Space Drone (x2) - Proton-M/Briz-M (or DM-03) (x/x) - Baikonur, 200/39
Cancelled:
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/space-drone-1.htm
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #383 on: 03/20/2021 07:12 pm »
Potentially two Proton-M launches scheduled for 2021?  Seeking clarification or correction.

So, what launch IS the second, recently-delivered Proton-M and one Briz-M for?

UTC Date (Format: DDD:HH:MM:SS:MS) – Satellite(s) – Rocket/Upper stage – Cosmodrome (Site/Pad) - Remarks
Planned Russian space launches
2021

July 15 (196:xx:xx:xx.xxx) - Nauka (MLM-U: 3R, №17901) – Proton-M (93571) – Baikonur, 200/39

Q4 or Q1 2022 (xxx:xx:xx:xx.xxx) - Ekspress-AMU3, Ekspress-AMU7 - Proton-M/Briz-M (53546/x) - Baikonur, 200/39

Cross-posts

ONE Luch-4/Olimp launch delay:
https://ria.ru/20210311/proton-1600699500.html
About Luch-4/Olimp launch:
Google translate:
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MOSCOW, 11 Mar - RIA Novosti. The launch of the Proton-M carrier rocket with the Luch-5 relay satellite, scheduled for this year, has been postponed until 2022, two sources in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti.
In December, another source told the agency that in 2021 three launches of Proton are planned: with the Nauka module to the International Space Station, the Express-AMU3 and Express-AMU7 telecommunication vehicles and the Luch-5 relay satellite. ".
"The launch of Luch-5 has been postponed until 2022," the agency's source said.
Another source confirmed this information.
For the first time, Alexei Varochko, Director General of the Khrunichev Center (Roscosmos enterprise), announced plans to launch the Luch-5 relay satellite in 2021 in February 2020 during a visit to the enterprise by members of the Russian Union of Veterans and the Military Leaders' Club.

TWO Original version of notice not cross-posted but in the same thread as ONE:
<snip>
new version? without Luch satellite!

http://www.khrunichev.com/main.php?id=1&nid=3836

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Railway train with two Proton-M missiles sent to Baikonur

03/16/2021

On the night of March 16, 2021, from the State Space Research and Production Center named after M.V. Khrunichev (part of the Roscosmos State Corporation), blocks of two Proton-M launch vehicles, a Briz-M upper stage and a head fairing were sent to the Baikonur cosmodrome, intended, in particular, to launch the Nauka module to the International Space Station.

All activities related to the dispatch of launch vehicles manufactured by GKNPTs im. M.V. Khrunichev, passed without comment.

The transportation of rocket and space technology from the manufacturing plant of the Khrunichev Center is carried out to implement the launch programs of the State Corporation Roscosmos, the goals of which are to expand the functionality of the Russian segment of the ISS.

THREE why it can't be a Luch-5 satellite:
It looks like they removed the information on the Luch-5 data relay satellite simply because it is erroneous. I understand the satellite to be launched by this Proton is of the same type as the Luch/Olimp-K satellite launched on September 27, 2014. This is not a data relay satellite, but a military satellite that has been traveling across the geostationary belt and has regularly parked itself close to foreign communications satellites, presumably to perform signals intelligence.

A fourth Luch-5 data relay satellite was ordered only last year to bridge the gap to the next-generation Luch-5M satellites, which will not start flying until 2025. The satellite ordered last year is called Luch-5VM and differs from the three earlier Luch-5 satellites in that many foreign-built electronic components are being replaced by Russian ones (because of the sanctions). According to an article published last year in ISS Reshetnev's in-house newsletter "Sibirsky sputnik", the production cycle was expected to last three years, so this satellite will not be going up until 2023 at the earliest. It has not yet been decided whether it will be launched by Angara-A5 or the Proton. If one of the currently orbiting Luch-5 satellites fails early, a second replacement satellite may be ordered as well.

See:
https://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/media/newspaper/newspaper-2020/newspaper-505.pdf
(p. 4)
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #384 on: 05/17/2021 06:14 pm »
Which of the Proton rockets with serial numbers in the Phase III or IV serial sequence has been assigned to the Ekvator launch?
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #385 on: 05/17/2021 06:18 pm »
 
The page titled "Russian Launch Manifest" (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt) lists the Ekspress AMU-4 launch as scheduled for 2022 and a planned launch of the Yenisey A2 with a Proton-M. However, a January 2020 news report from RIA Novosti said that the Ekspress AMU-4 launch is scheduled for 2021, and Gunter's Space Page doesn't list the Yenisey A2. Has there been any latest word on scheduled launch date for the Ekspress AMU-4, AMU-5, and AMU-6 geostationary telecom satellites, but also the Yenisey A2?
Sites can be out of date, so the 2nd one might not have been updated.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #386 on: 05/17/2021 06:44 pm »
The page titled "Russian Launch Manifest" (http://www.sworld.com.au/steven/space/russia-man.txt) lists the Ekspress AMU-4 launch as scheduled for 2022 and a planned launch of the Yenisey A2 with a Proton-M. However, a January 2020 news report from RIA Novosti said that the Ekspress AMU-4 launch is scheduled for 2021, and Gunter's Space Page doesn't list the Yenisey A2. Has there been any latest word on scheduled launch date for the Ekspress AMU-4, AMU-5, and AMU-6 geostationary telecom satellites, but also the Yenisey A2?
They have all been subject to COVID19 delays.
Only Ekspress launch in 2021 is the end of the year and is at the risk of fuether slipping. 200/39 was inactivated immediately after the previous Proton launch for the needed upgrades to carry out the launch campaign for MLM. The pad only began reactivation process and can't support any launches before the end of June:

End Q4 or NET Q1 2022 (xxx:xx:xx:xx.xxx) - Ekspress-AMU3, Ekspress-AMU7 - Proton-M/Briz-M (53546/x) - Baikonur, 200/39

Yenisey A2 is formulated in the plan for Sfera overall constellation. Delays are expected due the parts domestication development/sourcing issues due to foreign parts sanctions.

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #387 on: 05/18/2021 04:41 am »
Updates in RED.  Corrections welcome.
Further updates in BLUE.
More detailed and current schedule information can be found on or near the most recent page of Plan of Russian space launches (part 2).
The list of remaining solid launches of Proton-M:
Successful launch - Express-80/103 (2020)  launch thread

- MLM (2020-2021)  launch thread
- Express-AMU3 / 7 (2021 or 2022thread

- AngoSat-2 (2022)  thread
- Electro-L No. 4 (2021-2022)
- ExoMars (2022launch thread
- Luch-5X (Luch-4, Olimp-K) unknown (2022)

- Electro-L No. 5 (2023)
- Express-AMU4 / -MD3 (2022-2023)

- Luch-5VM No. 1 (2024)

- NEM (2023)
Edited later to add thread links.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #388 on: 05/18/2021 07:34 am »
Ekspress-AMU4 is not ordered yet, its launch is planned in 2023 for now. Ekspress-MD3 is cancelled.

Also the first Luch-5VM can be launched by Proton-M in 2024.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #389 on: 05/25/2021 07:55 pm »

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #390 on: 07/14/2021 05:46 pm »
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2013  5114837973  53545         I    14Д14М  2013/01
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Proton-M for Nauka,
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #391 on: 07/14/2021 10:31 pm »
Let‘s hope they made proper cleaning and inspections…

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #392 on: 07/15/2021 06:26 am »
Let‘s hope they made proper cleaning and inspections…

Yeah if this rocket was manufactured in 2013, it is from the times they used to install components upside down here and there.

Here's hoping Nauka docks onto the International Space Station, not onto the Kazakh desert.

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #393 on: 07/16/2021 11:05 am »
Let‘s hope they made proper cleaning and inspections…

Yeah if this rocket was manufactured in 2013, it is from the times they used to install components upside down here and there.

Here's hoping Nauka docks onto the International Space Station, not onto the Kazakh desert.

Proton-M №53545 was ordered in 2012, along with three Briz-M including №88534 and №88535.

I guess the others are №54544, №53546 and №88533?

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #394 on: 07/16/2021 04:55 pm »
Fairing 518 GK ?
No. 17901

(next launch)

edit: 522GK
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #395 on: 07/18/2021 10:48 pm »
Remaining Proton-M rockets, following from here up-thread in 2019:

Launched
Ekspress-80/103  launched July 30, 2020, 21:25 UTC  [93567, Proton-M Phase III]

Nauka launched July 21, 2021, 14:58 UTC  [53545, Proton-M Phase I]

At Baikonur
Ekspress-AMU3/7 scheduled to launch November 8, 2021  (rocket from Glonass)  [53546, Proton-M Phase I]

Finished
AngoSat-2 scheduled to launch July March 2022  (rocket from Glonass?)

ExoMars scheduled to launch September 22 through October 1, 2022  [93572, Proton-M Phase III]

NEM scheduled to be launched when?  [93703, Proton Phase IV]

To be built
Elektro-L4 scheduled to be launched in early 2022  [93568, Proton-M Phase III]

Luch-5X (aka Luch-4, Olimp-K) scheduled to be launched TBD 2022

Elektro-L5 scheduled to be launched early 2023  [93570, Proton-M Phase III]

Ekspress-AMU4 scheduled to be launched TBD 2023

And from this post, we have these unassigned to a launch:
Phase III
93571, 93573

Phase IV
93705, 93708, 93709, 93710, 93711

There are no more Proton-M launch vehicles beyond these?
Seeking corrections or clarifications.

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #396 on: 07/18/2021 11:19 pm »
Remaining Proton-M rockets, following from here up-thread in 2019:

Launched
Ekspress-80/103  launched July 30, 2020, 21:25 UTC  [93567, Proton-M Phase III]

At Baikonur
Nauka scheduled to launch July 21, 2021, 14:58 UTC  [53545, Proton-M Phase I]
Ekspress-AMU3/7 scheduled to launch November 8, 2021  (rocket from Glonass)  [53546, Proton-M Phase I]

Finished
AngoSat-2 scheduled to launch March 2022  (rocket from Glonass)
ExoMars scheduled to launch September 22 through October 1, 2022  [93572, Proton-M Phase III]
NEM scheduled to be launched when?  [93703, Proton Phase IV]

To be built
Elektro-L4 scheduled to be launched in early 2022  [93568, Proton-M Phase III]
Luch-5X (aka Luch-4, Olimp-K) scheduled to be launch TBD 2022
Elektro-L5 scheduled to be launched early 2023  [93570, Proton-M Phase III]
Ekspress-AMU4 scheduled to be launched TBD 2023

And from this post, we have these unassigned to a launch:
Phase III
93571, 93572, 93573

Phase IV
93705, 93708, 93709, 93710, 93711

There are no more Proton-M launch vehicles beyond these?
Seeking corrections or clarifications.
I would suppose so, because the Angara is intended to replace the Proton-M. The question is whether the rockets with the serials 93572, 93573, 93705, 93708, 93709, 93710, and 93711 will be used to launch the Ekspress AMU-4, AMU-5, AMU-6, Ekvator, and Luch 5.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #397 on: 07/18/2021 11:25 pm »
Nothing is cancelled. Angara is used for testing.

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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #398 on: 07/18/2021 11:40 pm »
Nothing is cancelled. Angara is used for testing.
It is unclear whether any of the remaining Proton-M Phase III rockets (93571, 93573) will be chosen to launch the Angosat-2, Luch-5X, and Ekspress-AMU4 satellites.
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Re: Information about Proton rocket
« Reply #399 on: 07/19/2021 05:39 pm »
Remaining Proton-M rockets, following from here up-thread in 2019:

Launched
Ekspress-80/103  launched July 30, 2020, 21:25 UTC  [93567, Proton-M Phase III]

At Baikonur
Nauka scheduled to launch July 21, 2021, 14:58 UTC  [53545, Proton-M Phase I]
Ekspress-AMU3/7 scheduled to launch November 8, 2021  (rocket from Glonass)  [53546, Proton-M Phase I]

Finished
AngoSat-2 scheduled to launch March 2022  (rocket from Glonass)
ExoMars scheduled to launch September 22 through October 1, 2022  [93572, Proton-M Phase III]
NEM scheduled to be launched when?  [93703, Proton Phase IV]

To be built
Elektro-L4 scheduled to be launched in early 2022  [93568, Proton-M Phase III]
Luch-5X (aka Luch-4, Olimp-K) scheduled to be launch TBD 2022
Elektro-L5 scheduled to be launched early 2023  [93570, Proton-M Phase III]
Ekspress-AMU4 scheduled to be launched TBD 2023

And from this post, we have these unassigned to a launch:
Phase III
93571, 93572, 93573

Phase IV
93705, 93708, 93709, 93710, 93711

There are no more Proton-M launch vehicles beyond these?
Seeking corrections or clarifications.
I would suppose so, because the Angara is intended to replace the Proton-M. The big question is whether the rockets with the serials 93571, 93572, 93573, 93705, 93708, 93709, 93710, and 93711 have been canceled or will be used to launch testbeds for the future Orel spacecraft.

Good question.
There are definitely Ph. 3 up to number 93572.
I read 73 once, never again after that.
Ph. 4 93703 exists. I don't know if the rest will actually be built.

 

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