2-Go look up the tweet from Jonathan Frakes a few weeks ago.
What I was hinting about above was that Paul Stamets reflection in the mirror is no longer in sync with him. I hope this isn't some reference to the 'mirror universe' of past treks.
You do realize you're not making the case you think you're making, right?
Doesn't 'male privilege' imply only men? There were five names on Saru's list, one a woman. And this was supposed to be 'the best Captains in Starfleet history' or words to that effect. I guess I'm just missing the point of IO9's slam.
So Tyler is Voq, right?
In all honesty, I don't understand why they are combining this series and the name Star Trek. Well, other than trying to milk the brand.Exactly same stories without the twisted version of Star Trek universe they're building here would probably be a fine show. But Star Trek it ain't.
I thought Lorca shot L’Rell in the eyes on purpose for the way she tortured him. Did we find out how exactly he damaged his eyes in the first place?
* I loved TNG but it gets really annoying that virtually no episode affects any other episode.
I disagree. It's going to be the story of how the Federation survives through a dark time. It's not like all of the history leading up to TOS was humans being perfect. Lorca is a war monger, no two ways about it. Burnham has seen slaughter at the hands of the Klingons which may or may not be a blind spot. In just this episode several characters struggle with ethical issues and choose to (eventually) take the high road.
Quote from: mme on 10/17/2017 01:02 amI disagree. It's going to be the story of how the Federation survives through a dark time. It's not like all of the history leading up to TOS was humans being perfect. Lorca is a war monger, no two ways about it. Burnham has seen slaughter at the hands of the Klingons which may or may not be a blind spot. In just this episode several characters struggle with ethical issues and choose to (eventually) take the high road.The writers have already established one theme that existed as subtext in a lot of early Trek: the military mission of Starfleet vs. the scientific and exploration goals.I can enjoy the current series for what it is, but I do think it is lacking some of the things that made Star Trek unique compared to many other science fiction shows: its optimism and its belief in a set of values like strength through diversity, and conflict resolution. Right now the show is dark. Star Trek occasionally did go dark. But it went dark, it didn't start dark. Maybe we'll see the show eventually end up with the values that we recognize in Star Trek. And maybe that's why the writers set the show at this point in time, because they wanted to show how things were in the before time.The protagonist is Burnham, and obviously she's supposed to have the key story arc in the show. But I find myself agreeing with the io9 article: "Burnham’s only defining characteristic continues to be “I do what I want,” and it’s unappealing. She learns every week to not do it, and then she’s right back there the next week."I agree with that. Maybe we need to keep a running count of how many times Burnham disobeys orders. And she keeps getting away with doing that. It's not really an arc, it's Groundhog Day.
They should just have Michael get smashed in the head, wake up, and this has all been a dream, and return to the real Star Trek universe.
Quote from: Steve G on 10/17/2017 12:51 pmThey should just have Michael get smashed in the head, wake up, and this has all been a dream, and return to the real Star Trek universe.She opens her eyes and sees a Klingon standing over her, and he looks like this:
...The protagonist is Burnham, and obviously she's supposed to have the key story arc in the show. But I find myself agreeing with the io9 article: "Burnham’s only defining characteristic continues to be “I do what I want,” and it’s unappealing. She learns every week to not do it, and then she’s right back there the next week."I agree with that. Maybe we need to keep a running count of how many times Burnham disobeys orders. And she keeps getting away with doing that. It's not really an arc, it's Groundhog Day.
Yeah. From the beginning of episode one it almost seems like she has a death wish and/or can't conceive of any impulse of her's being suboptimal. But being a human trying to be a Vulcan can't be easy. I think the writer's are just trying too hard. Hopefully they'll settle down.
Burnham is toeing the line dividing her from being a Mary Sue and an Author's Pet. We're told that she's this genius of an officer, probably the best and the brightest of the best and the brightest. However, we, as the audience, are asked to take this on faith as we have had very little actual proof of this presented to us except affirmations from other characters.