Centaur is renowned as a phenomenal upper stage (family), good for LEO, GTO, & beyond. Utterly amazing all round. My question is what makes it so good? Does it tick all the right boxes? (If so, what are those boxes & what does it do that others don’t?), does it have some kind of secret sauce, & can it be replicated in other stages?
Is the stainless steel tank lighter than any other kind? I thought that was the secret sauce that put it ahead.
Does Centaur use hydrogen boil-off to cool the lox? If do, has it always done so?
The Atlas V PUG, Rev. 11 (PDF page 39, para. 2.3.1.5) mentions a capability for 3-burn missions involving a 5.2-hour coast between burns 2 and 3. Centaur's viability, then, would need to extend to something like 6 hours. That's maybe not quite as long as the viability of the much larger Saturn S-IVB, which did cool its lox, but given the square-cube law, I'd have thought the advantage of lox cooling would be, if anything, larger for Centaur.
Quote from: Proponent on 07/04/2025 03:13 pmThe Atlas V PUG, Rev. 11 (PDF page 39, para. 2.3.1.5) mentions a capability for 3-burn missions involving a 5.2-hour coast between burns 2 and 3. Centaur's viability, then, would need to extend to something like 6 hours. That's maybe not quite as long as the viability of the much larger Saturn S-IVB, which did cool its lox, but given the square-cube law, I'd have thought the advantage of lox cooling would be, if anything, larger for Centaur.Not really needed, the insulation was enough.
Perhaps most important is the common bulkhead; a feature of all Centaur tanks and carried over to the ICES. Due to inherent thermodynamic properties, it is two to 10 times more efficient to vent hydrogen in terms of amount of heat removed per pound than oxygen, (table 1). The common bulkhead provides an extremely efficient and reliable method to direct all stage heating to the LH2 tank, where the energy can be efficiently removed via H2 venting to allow zero O2 boil off.This inherently structurally and thermally efficient design will reduce the system boil off to 0.1%/day for the baseline ICES compared to the current Titan Centaur ~2%/day. This low boil off provides a common stage that is ideally suited for standard Low Earth Orbit (LEO), Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit (GTO), and Geo-stationary Orbit (GSO) missions with mission durations up to 24 hours and provides the foundation for much longer missions.
Kutter, et al, (2008) A Practical, Affordable Cryogenic Propellant Depot Based on ULA’s Flight Experiencehttps://www.ulalaunch.com/docs/default-source/extended-duration/a-practical-affordable-cryogenic-propellant-depot-based-on-ula's-flight-experience.pdfWith respect to using LH2 boiloff to cool the LO2, it can be done passively; see this quote from Kutter 2005:QuotePerhaps most important is the common bulkhead; a feature of all Centaur tanks and carried over to the ICES. Due to inherent thermodynamic properties, it is two to 10 times more efficient to vent hydrogen in terms of amount of heat removed per pound than oxygen, (table 1). The common bulkhead provides an extremely efficient and reliable method to direct all stage heating to the LH2 tank, where the energy can be efficiently removed via H2 venting to allow zero O2 boil off.This inherently structurally and thermally efficient design will reduce the system boil off to 0.1%/day for the baseline ICES compared to the current Titan Centaur ~2%/day. This low boil off provides a common stage that is ideally suited for standard Low Earth Orbit (LEO), Geosynchronous Transfer Orbit (GTO), and Geo-stationary Orbit (GSO) missions with mission durations up to 24 hours and provides the foundation for much longer missions.