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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1380 on: 05/05/2025 05:49 pm »
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1381 on: 05/09/2025 02:25 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
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« Reply #1382 on: 05/09/2025 03:43 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1383 on: 05/09/2025 03:50 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..
The $11.8 Billion is probably gross revenue. Do we have any estimate for their margins?

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1384 on: 05/09/2025 06:39 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..

I doubt it cost SpaceX $40M for each of those 250 flights especially since they charge most commercial and government customers a premium for first use of the booster and then SpaceX reuses them for Starlink flights 5 to 10 times or more but I understand your point. I'd probably cut that at least in half to $5B or $20M/flight plus we need to add all the previous years revenue to the total. It's been stated that they have been cash flow positive for a while now and I also would like to know what there margins are.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1385 on: 05/09/2025 09:44 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..

I doubt it cost SpaceX $40M for each of those 250 flights especially since they charge most commercial and government customers a premium for first use of the booster and then SpaceX reuses them for Starlink flights 5 to 10 times or more but I understand your point. I'd probably cut that at least in half to $5B or $20M/flight plus we need to add all the previous years revenue to the total. It's been stated that they have been cash flow positive for a while now and I also would like to know what there margins are.

$40 million would account for the launch (roughly $15 million) + satellites $800k x 28 for V2 mini so $22 million) + ground infrastructure + factory for sats/terminals so $40 million isn't too far off

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1386 on: 05/10/2025 12:54 am »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..
The $11.8 Billion is probably gross revenue. Do we have any estimate for their margins?
Sure but still.

They're not launching 250/yr but only half that, and revenue is increasing for a fixed capacity as new territories open up (Indian just today)

It's a very profitable business.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1387 on: 06/03/2025 11:06 pm »
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Starlink’s most rugged kit yet, Performance offers reliable high-speed internet (400+ Mbps download speeds) in the most extreme and remote environments.

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1388 on: 06/04/2025 06:33 am »
Not sure how it is these days in other regions / countries, however in Czech Republic is Standard set (HW) offered for 0,- CZK (USD) with 12 months Resident tariff subscription. Is it usual offer now worldwide?
https://x.com/Starlink/status/1919621266862178642


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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1389 on: 06/04/2025 12:39 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..
The $11.8 Billion is probably gross revenue. Do we have any estimate for their margins?
Sure but still.

They're not launching 250/yr but only half that, and revenue is increasing for a fixed capacity as new territories open up (Indian just today)

It's a very profitable business.

You don't know that...

Looks the net margin of American Towers, for example...
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1390 on: 06/04/2025 01:56 pm »
Looks like Starlink's market and revenue has been updated from an estimated $8.2 billion in 2024 to $11.8 billion. Amazing after just 6 years and 250 dedicated Starlink launches.

https://spacenews.com/starlink-outpaces-launches-spacex-enters-new-era-of-profitability/
Ballparking 250 launches and hardware at $10B?   That's one HELL of an ROI..
The $11.8 Billion is probably gross revenue. Do we have any estimate for their margins?
Sure but still.

They're not launching 250/yr but only half that, and revenue is increasing for a fixed capacity as new territories open up (Indian just today)

It's a very profitable business.

You don't know that...

Looks the net margin of American Towers, for example...

We don’t know all of the details, but SpaceX stopped borrowing money years ago while continuing to spend billions on Starlink and billions more on Starship. Where is the money coming from if not Starlink?

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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1391 on: 06/04/2025 02:37 pm »
 We had someone who didn't think the rules applied to him leave a 128k Inmarsat connection running on a ship during the Katrina operation in 05, and ran up a $60,000 a month tab. For 128k.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1392 on: 06/13/2025 08:15 pm »
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Congrats to the @SpaceX team on completing the first generation Starlink Direct to Cell constellation!

Working with cellular providers around the world, Direct to Cell enables unmodified cellphones to have connectivity in the most remote areas 🛰️🌎❤️ → http://starlink.com/direct-to-cell
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1393 on: 06/18/2025 05:51 pm »
https://twitter.com/ChenrySpace/status/1935375183855972719

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India remains one of the hardest markets to access for foreign satellite operators. Will be huge if/when Starlink and other LEO constellations get access.

https://twitter.com/Gwynne_Shotwell/status/1935299562165424243

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It was an honor to meet with Minister Scindia and hear his vision for expanding access to broadband internet.

With our service licenses granted earlier this month,
@Starlink
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https://twitter.com/JM_Scindia/status/1934984131785462240

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Had a productive meeting with Ms. @Gwynne_Shotwell, President & COO of @SpaceX, on India’s next frontier in connectivity. We delved into opportunities for collaboration in satellite communications to power Digital India’s soaring ambitions and empower every citizen across the country.

With India’s digital revolution under the leadership of PM @narendramodi ji, satellite technologies are not just relevant, they’re transformative.

Ms. Shotwell appreciated the license granted to @Starlink, calling it a great start to the journey.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1394 on: 07/04/2025 05:17 pm »
Not sure how it is these days in other regions / countries, however in Czech Republic is Standard set (HW) offered for 0,- CZK (USD) with 12 months Resident tariff subscription. Is it usual offer now worldwide?
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Got the same offer yesterday for Germany. Cheapest subscription is 29 Euro/month. Seems like Starlink now has some excess capacity over central Europe.
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1395 on: 07/06/2025 11:38 am »
Not sure how it is these days in other regions / countries, however in Czech Republic is Standard set (HW) offered for 0,- CZK (USD) with 12 months Resident tariff subscription. Is it usual offer now worldwide?
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Got the same offer yesterday for Germany. Cheapest subscription is 29 Euro/month. Seems like Starlink now has some excess capacity over central Europe.

Same has been popping up in my Italian and Spanish IPs for at least some months in online ads (roaming service slightly cheaper than the above German ad at 40€).

Tough nut to crack in markets with either near-perfect fiber-to-home infrastructure (>90% in Spain, 80% in rural, with full transition from copper, France also in the ballpark), strong strategies to reach that in the near future (~70% in Italy from <40% a few years ago), or good service through other heritage methods (Germanic countries, with early widespread adoption of copper).
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1396 on: 07/15/2025 07:29 pm »
https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1945168197839098303

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Starlink is committed to its mission to connect the unconnected to high-speed, low-latency internet.

Over the past year, as millions of new users have been added to the network, speeds and latency continue to improve → http://starlink.com/networkupdate
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Re: Starlink : Markets and Marketing
« Reply #1397 on: 07/15/2025 10:07 pm »
CATDLR NOTE: This version of Starlink will be exclusive for Starship deployment.


https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1945171132996333719

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NEWS: SpaceX has announced that they will begin launching its third-generation
@Starlink
 satellites in the first half of 2026, which are expected to bring massive improvements.

"Each one of these new satellites is designed to provide over a terabit per second of downlink capacity (> 1,000 Gbps) and over 200 Gbps of uplink capacity to customers on the ground. This is more than 10x the downlink and 24x the uplink capacity of the second-generation satellites.

Each Starlink launch of third-generation satellites on Starship is projected to add 60 Tbps of capacity to the network, more than 20 times the capacity added with each launch today. Additionally, third-generation satellites will use SpaceX’s next generation computers, modems, beamforming, and switching and will operate at low altitude to further improve the network’s latency."
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