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Discussion thread for launch of O3B mPOWER satellites 5 and 6.

NSF Threads for O3B mPOWER:
O3B mPOWER program
Flight 1 Discussion (2022-12-16)
Flight 2 Discussion (2023-04-28)
Flight 3 Discussion (2023-11-12)
Flight 4 Discussion (2024-12-17)
Flight 5 Discussion (Mid-2025)
Flight 6

Launch of a third pair of satellites 12 November 2023 at 21:08 UTC (4:08 pm EST), on Falcon 9 from CCSFS SLC-40, to an equatorial MEO transfer orbit.  The first stage is B1076-9.  First stage landed aboard A Shortfall Of Gravitas.

The operational orbit will be 8000km equatorial.

O3b mPower satellites
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : Florida : June 2023
« Reply #1 on: 05/04/2023 11:29 am »
Targeting June 2023:

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First 4 O3b mPOWER satellites launched and next 2 satellites planned to launch in June 2023, paving the way for start of commercial service in late Q3 2023 with customers ramping onto the system through Q4 2023

https://www.ses.com/sites/default/files/2023-05/2305_Q1-2023-Press-Release_FINAL.pdf

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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : Florida : June 2023
« Reply #2 on: 05/05/2023 10:42 am »
Early June, specifically, according to Space News:

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The last pair of satellites SES needs to provide upgraded broadband services from medium Earth orbit (MEO) have completed tests ahead of an early June launch, SES said during financial results May 4.

https://spacenews.com/boeing-preparing-to-ship-milestone-o3b-mpower-satellites-for-launch/
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Cross-post:
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated May 12:
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A Falcon 9 will launch SES' mPOWER 5&6 communications satellites from pad 40 on early June TBD, in the evening EDT.
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NextSpaceflight (Updated May 18th)
Launch NET June 6th
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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If CRS-28 is on 3 June and Starlink 6-4 is on 30 May and both require droneships
Previous two O3b launches used droneships so presumably needed again for this launch?

Does that make 6 June a bit difficult to have a droneship ready for this launch?

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My extrapolation of Florida ASDS rotation for the next few weeks:
May 19            CCSFS SLC-40   ASOG   Starlink 6-3
May 21            KSC LC-39A       LZ-1      Axiom-2
May 24            CCSFS SLC-40   JRTI      BADR-8
NET May 30   CCSFS SLC-40   ASOG    Starlink 6-4
Jun 3               KSC LC-39A       JRTI       SpX-28
NET Jun 6      CCSFS SLC-40   ASOG    O3b mPower 5/6
NET Jun 12    CCSFS SLC-40   JRTI      Starlink 5-11
NET Jun 17    CCSFS SLC-40   ASOG   Satria
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If CRS-28 is on 3 June and Starlink 6-4 is on 30 May and both require droneships
Previous two O3b launches used droneships so presumably needed again for this launch?

Does that make 6 June a bit difficult to have a droneship ready for this launch?

Why don't they do RTLS on CRS missions now? Shouldn't that be possible if it's doable for crewed launches?

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If CRS-28 is on 3 June and Starlink 6-4 is on 30 May and both require droneships
Previous two O3b launches used droneships so presumably needed again for this launch?

Does that make 6 June a bit difficult to have a droneship ready for this launch?

Why don't they do RTLS on CRS missions now? Shouldn't that be possible if it's doable for crewed launches?

CRS-28 is carrying the shorter nozzle extension on the MVac engine. It won't even do a partial boostback and land downrange like Starlink or GTO missions.

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If CRS-28 is on 3 June and Starlink 6-4 is on 30 May and both require droneships
Previous two O3b launches used droneships so presumably needed again for this launch?

Does that make 6 June a bit difficult to have a droneship ready for this launch?

They should be able to support it droneship-wise but it'll likely entail a couple of quick stays at port like they've done in the past where they arrive, drop the booster, and head out again.

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NextSpaceflight (Updated May 24th)
Launch NET June 9th, 2023 at 19:15 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated May 24:
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A Falcon 9 will launch SES' mPOWER 5&6 communications satellites from pad 40 on June 9, in the evening EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the Satria communications satellite for Indonesia from pad 40 on June 19. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches.
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NextSpaceflight (Updated May 31st)
Launch NET June 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Mention of this launch was removed for this June 1 update.
Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated June 1:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch the Cargo Dragon CRS-28 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 39A on June 3 at 12:35 p.m. EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on June 4 at 5:53 a.m. EDT. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the Satria communications satellite for Indonesia from pad 40 on June 19. A Falcon 9 will launch the Euclid telescope for the European Space Agency from pad 40 on early July, in the mid-day EDT. The next Falcon Heavy will launch the USSF-52 mission for the U.S. Space Force from pad 39A on July 7. The two side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.

Also noting that there is no news of the satellites' delivery to Florida.  The previous pair were delivered circa one half month before scheduled launch.

I suspect that this launch will be rescheduled shortly after the satellites are delivered.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : NET July 2023
« Reply #14 on: 06/02/2023 02:57 pm »
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NextSpaceflight, updated June 2:
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O3b mPOWER 5 & 6
Launch Time
NET July, 2023

Edit:
I wonder what happened?  Launch was set for June 9, then poof, it's TBD.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : NET July 2023
« Reply #15 on: 06/04/2023 03:19 am »
SFN Launch Schedule, updated June 3:
Launch TBD
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : NET July 2023
« Reply #16 on: 06/12/2023 03:44 pm »
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SES CEO Steve Collar announces sudden resignation

June 12, 2023

[...]

SES has been planning to deploy initial services this summer from its upgraded MEO network following an upcoming launch of two more O3b mPower satellites.

Boeing was at one point preparing to ship the fifth and sixth of 11 O3b mPower satellites it is building for SES in May for a SpaceX launch in early June.

However, Ong said the satellites are still at Boeing’s manufacturing facilities in El Segundo, California, so they can complete further tests before being sent to SpaceX’s launchpad in Florida.

SES has not provided an updated launch window for the satellites.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #17 on: 07/05/2023 05:24 am »
Listing unchanged as of July 4.  These satellite pairs can launch in less than two weeks after delivery to the Cape.
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NextSpaceflight, updated June 2:
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O3b mPOWER 5 & 6
Launch Time
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #18 on: 07/10/2023 05:01 am »
Given Florida ASDS availability for the rest of July, particularly the need for both ASDS to serve the July 24 Jupiter 3 launch, and given the NET August 3 Galaxy 37 launch that requires one ASDS, then this launch should now be NET August.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #19 on: 07/14/2023 12:27 am »
Given Florida ASDS availability for the rest of July, particularly the need for both ASDS to serve the July 24 Jupiter 3 launch, and given the NET August 3 Galaxy 37 launch that requires one ASDS, then this launch should now be NET August.

NextSpaceflight, updated July 13:
Launch NET August 2023
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #20 on: 08/03/2023 07:36 am »
Ben Cooper (Updated August 3rd):
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A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C mission for SES from pad 40 on August TBD, in the evening EDT.
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : August 2023
« Reply #21 on: 08/03/2023 03:59 pm »
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SES: Occasional trip-off of power modules on first 4 O3b mPower satellites could delay next launches
August 3, 2023

Satellite fleet operator SES said it said is a minor glitch in the performance of the first four O3b mPower medium-Earth-orbit broadband satellites that could delay the launch of the third and fourth pair of mPower satellites, scheduled this year with SpaceX.

SES Interim Chief Executive Ruy Pinto said the issue — sporadic trip-offs of some of the satellites’ power modules — can be quickly recovered “without impact on the performance of the mPower payloads.”

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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : August 2023
« Reply #22 on: 08/04/2023 03:08 am »
Source for the reports of the O3b mPower satellite delay is the 2023 H1 earnings call.

Described as having sporadic switch-off of some power modules.  Modules can be reset successfully, but they would like to understand the issue.  Launch expected to happen by the end of Q3, and service for customers by the end of the year.  Analogous to having circuit breakers pop unexpectedly.  Not worried right now.

https://www.ses.com/company/investors/financial-results

Also coverage of the same on SpaceNews:
O3b mPower faces delays as SES investigates electrical issue
https://spacenews.com/next-o3b-mpower-launch-delayed-as-ses-investigates-electrical-issue/
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #23 on: 08/11/2023 11:45 am »
NextSpaceflight, updated August 11:
Launch NET September 2023

I assume that the next substantial news we read will be that the satellites have been delivered to the Cape. (unless launch is delayed into Q4)
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #24 on: 08/13/2023 10:13 pm »
NextSpaceflight (Updated August 13th)
Launch NET August 27th, 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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NextSpaceflight (Updated August 13th)
Launch NET August 27th, 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943

Satellites' delivery must be imminent, or occurred over the weekend.  Press release tomorrow (Monday) or soon thereafter?  14 days to NET date.
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Unchanged from August 3 update:
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
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UPDATED AUGUST 13, 2023

FALCON 9
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A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C mission for SES from pad 40 on August TBD, in the evening EDT.

August 14 update:
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A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C mission for SES from pad 40 on August TBD, in the late afternoon EDT.
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to permit the applicant to operate one, one-way, all-cargo charter flight, using its AN-124-100 aircraft, carrying outsized cargo on behalf of the Boeing Company (Boeing), from Los Angeles, California, to Melbourne or Titusville/Cape Canaveral, Florida, during the period August 16-31, 2023. The applicant states that the flight will carry two O3b commercial satellites in an outsized 5M satellite shipping container, plus ancillary containers, pallets, parts, and equipment.

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Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

The May 16 press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches.  The limit for all the other not-HSF payloads is currently fifteen launches.

1064.4 and 1065.4 are reserved as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for Psyche.

1072.1 is reserved for Cygnus NG-20.

1076.7 and 1073.10 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but are apparently still available for "single-stick" launches at the current time.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1073.10  Jun 12
1080.3    Jul 1
1076.7    Jul 24
1062.15  Jul 28 (?)
1077.7    Aug 3
1078.5    Aug 7 (maybe)

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Edit August 22: Launch delayed NET October.
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I would guess that B1080 or b1073 will fly starlink and this would fly on the other. its also possible that this flyies on 58 but the probability is low

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I would guess that B1080 or b1073 will fly starlink and this would fly on the other. its also possible that this flyies on 58 but the probability is low

IIRC, SpaceX said that boosters that have flown past the 15-flight point will only be used for Starlink missions.

B1058 has flown 16 times as of today.
« Last Edit: 08/16/2023 04:09 pm by ZachS09 »
SECO confirmed. Nominal orbit insertion.

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NextSpaceflight (Updated August 17th)
Launch NET 27 August 2023, 21:04 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Delayed again...more issues?

NextSpaceflight (Updated August 21/22)
Launch NET October / Q4 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #33 on: 09/14/2023 02:25 am »
https://spacenews.com/ses-qa-leveling-up-multi-orbit-connectivity/ [Sept 13]

SES CEO confirms they are still aiming to ship the next 2 O3b sats by end of September for launch in October. They've made a few changes to these satellites to help prevent the power issues they are experiencing with the first 4, but from reading through the CEO's response, it doesnt sound like they have the exact cause pinned down yet, these are just changes they hope will help to a certain extent.

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Q: A big source of current investment is O3b mPower. Where are you in resolving the technical glitch you recently disclosed there?
 
A: We have been working really hard with Boeing and we have a way better understanding of this phenomena than we had two months ago. This gives us the confidence that we can provide the level of service that our customers expect, and that we expect from O3b mPower.

With a mix of operational [changes and] updates to the software, we can live with this phenomenon. It doesn’t impact the lifetime of those satellites as far as we know.

The current plan is that we are on target to launch the next two (O3b satellites) in October. <snip>

Q: What changes did you make to the two upcoming satellites?

A: They are good things to do in terms of shielding and cabling. We don’t expect them to be a silver bullet for the phenomena we have observed, but they’re sensible things to do.

Of course, launching them gives Boeing and us time to go from: Now we understand what is happening to can I just prevent it from happening altogether on the following five satellites?

Q: Are they packed up and ready for the launchpad?

A: They’re not packed up yet, but if we’re going to meet a launch in October we’re going to have to ship them by the end of September.

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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #34 on: 09/14/2023 02:48 am »
Werent the satellites already shipped to the cape? did they return them to the manufacturer?

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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #35 on: 09/14/2023 05:57 am »
Werent the satellites already shipped to the cape? did they return them to the manufacturer?

They were planning to, but it never happened
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : October 2023
« Reply #36 on: 09/24/2023 05:43 pm »
Cross-post:
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[Last listed launch]
A Falcon 9 will launch the O3b mPOWER-5&6 satellites for SES from pad 40 on October.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : October 2023
« Reply #37 on: 09/24/2023 10:02 pm »
NextSpaceflight (Updated September 24th)
Launch NET October 22nd, 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #38 on: 10/09/2023 05:54 am »
Delayed again...

NextSpaceflight (Updated October 9th)
Launch NET December 2023
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 2023
« Reply #39 on: 10/09/2023 06:24 am »
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2033-EX-ST-2023   Mission 1823 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC
NET late November [NET Nov 25]
ASDS North  28  16  11   West  73  35  6

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This application extends information from grant 0932-EX-ST-2023.

Non Starlink missions with FCC applications

Cape:

0932-EX-ST-2023 Mission 1823, OSD: May 25th, ASDS recovery (O3b mPOWER-c)

This is an extension to the 3rd O3b mPOWER mission FCC grant (assignment is not confirmed but very likely as speculated by others). Seems SpaceX thinks this may not launch until December.

Also, the original FCC license application:
0932-EX-ST-2023  Mission 1823
NET late May [NET May 25], launching east from Florida
ASDS North  28  16  11   West  73  35  6

Might this extension merely be like insurance?

Also, NET December could = NET Q4 in NextSF jargon = NET November/December?
Delayed again...

NextSpaceflight (Updated October 9th)
Launch NET December 2023
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : November 2023
« Reply #40 on: 10/09/2023 11:12 pm »
SFN Launch Schedule, updated October 9:
Launch November 2023
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : November 2023
« Reply #41 on: 10/15/2023 10:32 am »
Ben Cooper (Updated October 13th):
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A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 25. A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C internet satellites for SES from pad 40 on late October TBD, in the evening EDT.
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NextSpaceflight (Updated October 17th)
Launch NET October 28th, 2023, at 21:07 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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NextSpaceflight (Updated August 13th)
Launch NET August 27th, 2023
NextSpaceflight (Updated August 17th)
Launch NET 27 August 2023, 21:04 UTC
NextSpaceflight (Updated August 21/22)
Launch NET October / Q4 2023
NextSpaceflight (Updated September 24th)
Launch NET October 22nd, 2023
NextSpaceflight (Updated October 9th)
Launch NET December 2023
SFN Launch Schedule, updated October 9:
Launch November 2023
NextSpaceflight (Updated October 17th)
Launch NET October 28th, 2023, at 21:07 UTC

The Wiki page is long, but still does not include delivery of the spacecraft.
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NextSpaceflight (Updated October 17th)
Launch NET October 28th, 2023, at 21:07 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943

Well Ben Cooper once listed this as occurring in late October, as indicated above, but it looks like this got delayed back to November again:

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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 21 at 10:23 p.m. EDT or later. A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on late October. A Falcon 9 will launch the CRS-29 resupply mission to the ISS from pad 39A on November 5 at 10:01 p.m. EST. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch. Upcoming launches include more Starlink batches from pad 40. A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C internet satellites for SES from pad 40 on November, in the late afternoon EDT. A Falcon 9 will launch the NOVA-C commercial lunar lander for Intuitive Machines & NASA from pad 39A on mid-November.
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Re: SpaceX F9 : O3b mPower 5/6 : CCSFS SLC-40 : November 2023
« Reply #45 on: 10/19/2023 09:57 am »
NextSpaceflight (Updated October 19th)
Launch NET November 9th, 2023, at 22:00 UTC
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/6943
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Launch Time
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Launch Time
Sat Nov 11, 2023 22:08 GMT
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YTD 2023 RESULT
31 October 2023

Update on O3b mPOWER
SES confirms the planned launch of O3b mPOWER satellites 5 and 6 in early November 2023, from which commercial services are expected to begin from early Q2 2024.

Over the past few months, an increased number of sporadic power module switch offs have been observed during O3b mPOWER operations in space, including a few non-recoverable events. After a comprehensive investigation where the causes were identified by Boeing and SES, mitigations for these events will be put in place for the initial satellites that include updated operational procedures and leveraging elements of the constellation in a resilient configuration, which will enable the expected high-performance services to customers.

With the operations of this initial O3b mPOWER constellation, in combination with the existing O3b MEO constellation, SES expects it can support its currently signed O3b mPOWER customers, as well as future customers and market growth.

It has been determined that the anticipated operational life and available capacity of the initial O3b mPOWER satellites will be significantly lower than previously expected. SES has secured firm commitments from Boeing and both companies are closely collaborating to deliver the full lifecycle capabilities of the constellation. SES and Boeing plan to upgrade 5 of the remaining satellites (7-11) already under manufacture and add 2 additional satellites into the constellation. The additional investment associated with this plan is expected to be fully covered within SES’s existing committed CapEx envelope, including supplier concessions

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TLDR:
Launch of O3b mPOWER 5 & 6 is scheduled for Early-November. Operational life and capacity from the initial satellites will be significantly lower than expected due to the power-module issue. O3b mPOWER 7 through 11 will be upgraded to ensure the full lifecycle capabilities of the constellation. Boeing will also manufacture an additional 2 satellites (O3b mPOWER 12 & 13)

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O3b mPOWER 5 & 6: Early-November
O3b mPOWER 7 & 8: H2 2024
O3b mPOWER 9, 10 & 11: 2025
O3b mPOWER 12 & 13: 2026
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TLDR:
Operational life and capacity from O3b mPOWER 1 through 4 will be significantly lower than expected due to the power-module issue

1-4 or 1-6?

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TLDR:
Operational life and capacity from O3b mPOWER 1 through 4 will be significantly lower than expected due to the power-module issue

1-4 or 1-6?

1-4.
5-6 have some fixes.

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I don't think 5-6 actually have many fixes.  Still need to listen to the earnings call later.


https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1719386904276226050
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.@SES_Satellites: We 'reshaped' 11-satellite O3b mPower contract w/ @BoeingSpace following degraded performance/life span of 1st 6 mPower sats. Boeing will take part in financing rework of sats 7-11, and production of 2 additional sats. Insurance claim TBD.https://bit.ly/3Qii07R
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TLDR:
Operational life and capacity from O3b mPOWER 1 through 4 will be significantly lower than expected due to the power-module issue

1-4 or 1-6?

Unclear from the press release (I updated the original post), but that Tweet from Peter does make it sound like they don't have any significant improvements. I guess they are just launching them to be able to launch initial service?
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I think they said NET Nov. 12 for the launch (earnings call audio has a bit of an echo and the speakers have a bit of an accent)

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I don't think 5-6 actually have many fixes.  Still need to listen to the earnings call later.

In that case, why were they delayed ?  ???
And I didn't say many fixes ;)
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I think they said NET Nov. 12 for the launch (earnings call audio has a bit of an echo and the speakers have a bit of an accent)

Confirmed by Spaceflight Now:

November 12 Falcon 9 • O3b mPOWER 5 & 6

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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Is it 22:08 UTC or 21:08 UTC?
I am seeing 21:08 GMT at nextspaceflight

Cooper says "November 12 at 4:08 p.m. EST"

GMT=UTC and EST is GMT-5 I think.
Thise seem to agree on 21:08 UTC but this thread says 22:08
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Is it 22:08 UTC or 21:08 UTC?
I am seeing 21:08 GMT at nextspaceflight

Cooper says "November 12 at 4:08 p.m. EST"

GMT=UTC and EST is GMT-5 I think.
Thise seem to agree on 21:08 UTC but this thread says 22:08

Until recently NextSpaceflight said 22:08 UTC. The topic launch time probably came from that.
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Ben Cooper (Updated November 3st) my bold:
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A Falcon 9 will launch the mPOWER-C internet satellites for SES from pad 40 on November 12 at 4:08 p.m. EST. The launch window stretches 89 minutes.
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No news regarding the satellites' delivery to SpaceX?  Launch is days away.
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA
071306Z NOV 23
NAVAREA IV 1295/23(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   122108Z TO 122308Z NOV, ALTERNATE
   2108Z TO 2308Z DAILY 13 THRU 18 NOV
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.55N 080-37.36W, 28-40.00N 080-33.00W,
      28-39.00N 080-21.00W, 28-38.00N 080-13.00W,
      28-32.00N 080-09.00W, 28-31.00N 080-18.00W,
      28-31.00N 080-27.00W, 28-31.60N 080-33.57W.
   B. 28-32.00N 074-52.00W, 28-33.00N 072-24.00W,
      28-25.00N 071-37.00W, 28-01.00N 071-36.00W,
      27-51.00N 072-18.00W, 28-13.00N 074-52.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 190008Z NOV 23.
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NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Map from the NGA notice. ASDS 683km downrange.

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Which first stage will be used for this launch (semi-rhetorical question)?

The May 16 press briefing revealed Falcon 9 first stages are now cleared for use up to twenty times for Starlink launches.

1064.5 and 1065.5 are reserved as the Falcon Heavy side boosters for USSF-52.

1072.1 is reserved for Cygnus NG-20.

1076.9 and 1073.12 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are available for "single-stick" launches currently.

Available first stages, with UTC date of most recent recovery:
1078.6    Sep 16
1060.18  Sep 24
1069.11  Sep 30
1076.9    Oct 5
1067.15  Oct 13
1062.17  Oct 18
1080.5    Oct 22 (maybe)

Edit November 10: It's B1076.9.

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1076.9 and 1073.11 may undergo modifications to become Falcon Heavy side boosters for a future launch, but both are available for "single-stick" launches currently.
1073 is currently on its way to Cape from today's mission.

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3️⃣2️⃣1️⃣ The countdown to launch our next pair of #O3bmPOWER satellites is on! We're gearing up to watch the fifth and sixth second-gen satellites take flight this Sunday, 12 November.

Get ready for extraordinary satellite-enabled experiences everywhere. Stay tuned for more details. 🚀🛰️ #ShareAnywhere

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A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about 15 minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the ninth flight of the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched CRS-26, OneWeb Launch 16, Intelsat IS-40e, and five Starlink missions. (=B1076.9) Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

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Targeting Sunday, November 12 for a Falcon 9 launch of SpaceX’s third @SES_Satellites O3b mPOWER mission from Space Launch Complex 40 in Florida → http://spacex.com/launches
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PDF of online press kit.
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https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp
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SPACE-X mPOWER-C, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:   11/12/23   2108Z-2308Z
BACKUPS:   11/13-17/23   2108Z-2308Z

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Take a #BTS peek at the preparations as we’re getting ready to launch our third pair of #O3bmPOWER satellites!  🚀🛰️🛰️

@spacex livestream details below 👇 #ShareAnywhere @BoeingSpace

🗓️ Sunday, 12 November
🕟 4:08pm EST | 10:08pm CET
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If not already posted here are two webcast links:


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T-38 minutes. The SpaceX launch director should be verifying go to start propellant loading.

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T-35 minutes. First stage LOX loading and first and second stage RP-1 loading should be starting about now.
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ASDS.

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T-2 minutes. Second stage LOX load is complete.

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Coverage ending after LEO orbit insertion.

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T-1 minute. Vehicle is in startup.

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First stage separation and ignition.

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Fairing separation.

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Entry burn.

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Cutoff.

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Landing burn.

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End of webcast. Upcoming events.

00:26:57 2nd stage engine starts (SES-2)
00:27:30 2nd stage engine cutoff (SECO-2)
01:56:46 2nd stage engine starts (SES-3)
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Thanks to Steven and Future for the launch coverage.  I notice that SpaceX provided narration for the last two launches but I have a feeling that will be the case for non-Starlink launches.
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For some reason, my calculator gives a negative apogee for the insertion orbit! The SpX 29 mission had an insertion speed of 27012 km/h so the low 26669 km/h value given for this flight must be in error.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 164
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 26669
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 50

Estimated inertial speed = 7714.7 m/s
Estimated apogee height = -132.2 km
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For some reason, my calculator gives a negative apogee for the insertion orbit! The SpX 29 mission had an insertion speed of 27012 km/h so the low 26669 km/h value given for this flight must be in error.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 164
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 26669
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 50

Estimated inertial speed = 7714.7 m/s
Estimated apogee height = -132.2 km

The O3b satellites are going to 0 deg. equatorial orbit, not 50 deg., so use standard GTO parking orbit instead (i ~ 28 deg.).
Anyway on first 2 launches the values were 26672 & 26674 km/h @ 164 km.
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The last O3b flight also had a similar 26674 km/h insertion speed. I'm a bit confused on why the speeds are so low compared to LEO flights! Also, SpaceX streamed the entire event up to spacecraft separation, which makes the reason for ending this flight's coverage early "as we don't have views of payload deploy due to the size of the payload adaptor" a bit strange.
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The O3b satellites are going to 0 deg. equatorial orbit, not 50 deg., so use standard GTO parking orbit instead (i ~ 28 deg.).
Anyway on first 2 launches the values were 26672 & 26674 km/h @ 164 km.

Ahh, thanks for the correction! The upper stage performs three burns. The stage goes into LEO first, then a transfer orbit to 8000 km and then an apogee burn two hours after launch. Total delta-V to MEO is about 3468 m/s.

Enter initial perigee height (km): 164
Enter SpaceX speed (km/h): 26669
Enter initial orbit inclination (deg): 25

Estimated inertial speed = 7840.4 m/s
Estimated apogee height = 281.9 km

Enter required inclination change (deg): 25
Enter final orbit height (km): 8000

Burn at   164.0 km: theta1 =  4.52 deg, dv1 = 1471.4 m/s
Burn at  8000.0 km: theta2 = 20.48 deg, dv2 = 1996.1 m/s
dv = 3467.5 m/s
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The second stage burn ending before 1st landing seem unusual to me, or am I wrong as usual?  :)
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The second stage burn ending before 1st landing seem unusual to me, or am I wrong as usual?  :)

I think that's expected. The light payload means that the second stage LEO insertion burn is shorter, leaving propellant for the transfer and MEO insertion burns.
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T+1 hour 56 minutes and 46 seconds. Expected third ignition for 30 seconds.
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T+1 hour 57 minutes and 16 seconds. Expected third cutoff.
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Did anyone see SpaceX mission patch?

They probably used the same one as on the previous flight.

https://spacexpatchlist.space/#F9-273
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T+2 hours and 18 seconds. Expected first separation.
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Either they jumped the gun, the timeline was wrong, or something else. I guess we'll be watching for the TLE's in case anything is off nominal

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Either they jumped the gun, the timeline was wrong, or something else. I guess we'll be watching for the TLE's in case anything is off nominal

I think the timeline could have been wrong. The last two missions had the second separation at T+2 minutes and 19 seconds, while this mission's timeline had the second separation at T+2 minutes 7 minutes and 18 seconds, which was way after SpaceX announced separation of both payloads.
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Success! 🚀 We’re thrilled to announce that our fifth and sixth #O3bmPOWER satellites have successfully launched into space!

This marks an incredible milestone for our second-generation medium earth orbit system, as this duo completes the six #MEO satellites required to offer high-performance network services delivering high throughput, predictable low latency, unique flexibility and service availability.

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Falcon 9 launches the @SES_Satellites O3b mPOWER mission to orbit from Florida

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Falcon 9 sending a third set of O3b mPOWER Internet Satellites to space for @SES_Satellites this afternoon from @SLDelta45.
O3b sats are placed in Medium Earth Orbit (MEO) and deliver higher bandwidth internet access compared to legacy Geostationary solutions. #O3bmPOWER
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🛰️ We have contact! The fifth and sixth #O3bmPOWER satellites are sending and receiving signals after a successful Sunday launch. Congrats to our partners at @SES_Satellites who will soon be providing high-performance connectivity to customers around the world.

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CelesTrak has GP data for 3 objects from the launch (2023-175) of O3b mPOWER 5 & 6 atop a Falcon 9 rocket from Cape Canaveral on Nov 12 at 2108 UTC: spaceflightnow.com/2023/11/12/liv…. Data for the launch can be found at: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/table.php?INTDES=2023-175

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Perigee a couple hundred km lower than the previous two O3b mPower missions.  Cool that they seemed to have captured the transfer orbit this time, shown as the "C" object.

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Some reusability stats for this launch (O3b mPower 5&6):

Booster B1076.9 turnaround time: 38 days 15 hours 32 minutes
(its previous mission was Starlink Group 6-21 on Oct 5, 2023 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for Falcon 9 / Heavy boosters is currently 57.30 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches, excluding new first stages.

Launchpad SLC-40 turnaround time: 4 days 16 hours 3 minutes
(the previous launch from this pad was Starlink Group 6-27 on Nov 8, 2023 UTC).

FYI: median turnaround time for SLC-40 is currently 5.93 days *
* – based on the last 30 launches.

The same type of stats for previous SpaceX launches may be found on this spreadsheet online.

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Emerging from rough seas off the coast of Florida... it's ASOG droneship with SpaceX's Falcon 9 B1076!

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Crosby Skipper + ASOG + B1076 returned to PC on Nov 15 @ 2:14pm ET

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A Shortfall of Gravitas and her crew have found safe harbor in Port Canaveral following the recovery of B1076, closing out the O3b mPower  5&6 mission.

@NASASpaceflight live views of processing: nsf.live/spacecoast

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The soot and the moody late season tropical weather suit eachother well. Bonus views of B1076 after nine flights.

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SpaceX support ship Bob returned to Port Canaveral overnight with four Falcon 9 fairing halves - from mPower 5&6 and Starlink 6-28.

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