Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 4-36 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 20 October 2022 (14:50 UTC)  (Read 25738 times)

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https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/09/28/spacex-ula-postpone-launches-as-hurricane-ian-threatens-florida/

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That shuffling in SpaceX’s launch schedule would push back the next Starlink mission from Cape Canaveral until mid-October. SpaceX officials have said they prioritize missions with customer payloads.

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Yeh the call was finally made yesterday to call off Sep 30 for launch. It was not surprising to see that today the SLD45 didn't release any forecast for that mission. ASOG will support Galaxy 33&34 and this mission will fly after Hotbird 13F. Kinda glad USSF-44 is double RTLS with no droneship needed 😅

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The NGA Rocket Launching notice is canceled TBD.  I expect that the Space Debris notices will also be canceled soon.

Quote from: NGA
282122Z SEP 22
NAVAREA IV 1005/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
CANCEL NAVAREA IV 981/22 AND THIS MSG,
OPERATION POSTPONED.

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Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated September 28; already partially obsolete within hours; my bold:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch four astronauts on NASA's Crew-5 mission on October TBA, around 11am-noon EDT. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Galaxy 33 & 34 communication satellites on October 6 at 7:07pm EDT. Sunset is 7:03pm. The launch window stretches to 8:14pm. A Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Hotbird 13F comsat for Eutelsat on October 13 at 11:25pm EDT. The launch window stretches two hours. Upcoming launches include more Starlink satellites from pad 40 on October TBD. And a Falcon Heavy will launch USSF-44 for the US Space Force from pad 39A in late October TBA. The side boosters will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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« Last Edit: 10/02/2022 07:55 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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The FAA Current Operations Plan has this as October 18:

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STARLINK GROUP 4-36 CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:    10_18_22    1528Z-2032Z
BACKUP:     10_19_22    1507Z-2010Z
            10_20_22    1445Z-1949Z
            10_21_22    1424Z-1927Z

... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that.  They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

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... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that.  They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

Hotbird 13F is now correctly listed as 15 October UTC, with Starlink 4-36 still on for 18 October UTC.
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... but I wouldn't put too much faith in that.  They also have Hotbird 13F as October 13 UTC, even though it has slipped to October 15.

Hotbird 13F is now correctly listed as 15 October UTC, with Starlink 4-36 still on for 18 October UTC.

I had noticed that but didn't think it was worth commenting on.  So far there are neither an FAA TFR nor an NGA notice for any date, and those are what really count.

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And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas).  Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th.  It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The warning periods are long enough to support same-day backup times.

Quote from: NGA
120700Z OCT 22
NAVAREA IV 1094/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   201445Z TO 201949Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   211424Z TO 211928Z, 221402Z TO 221906Z,
   231340Z TO 231845Z, 241319Z TO 241823Z,
   251257Z TO 251802Z AND 261236Z TO 261740Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-39.45N 080-38.00W, 28-48.00N 080-31.00W,
      28-57.00N 080-21.00W, 29-04.00N 080-10.00W,
      28-57.00N 080-06.00W, 28-48.00N 080-13.00W,
      28-34.00N 080-27.00W, 28-31.55N 080-33.54W.
   B. 31-59.00N 076-43.00W, 32-48.00N 076-10.00W,
      33-19.00N 075-08.00W, 33-11.00N 075-00.00W,
      32-31.00N 075-20.00W, 31-52.00N 076-32.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261840Z OCT 22.
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130250Z OCT 22
HYDROPAC 2896/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 13.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z,
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z,
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.
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130250Z OCT 22
NAVAREA XII 769/22(83).
EASTERN PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   201555Z TO 202039Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   211534Z TO 212018Z, 221512Z TO 221956Z,
   231450Z TO 231935Z, 241429Z TO 241913Z,
   251407Z TO 251852Z AND
   261346Z TO 261830Z OCT IN AREA BOUND BY
   03-30.00N 120-51.00W, 03-30.00N 123-11.00W,
   14-19.00S 135-25.00W, 15-22.00S 133-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 261930Z OCT 22.

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And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas).  Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th.  It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The warning periods are long enough to support same-day backup times.

Maps from the NGA notices. ASDS 657km downrange. As is often the case, the space debris area appears to be incomplete.
« Last Edit: 10/16/2022 03:24 am by OneSpeed »

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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1581647305404387328

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Departure! Bob and ASOG droneship are heading to sea for Starlink Group 4-36

Who missed Starlink??? They are back!!! 🙂

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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1581658697574469632

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SpaceX Drone Ship "A Shortfall Of Gravitas".

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https://twitter.com/raul74cz/status/1581671848546545665

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LHA map for #Starlink Group 4-36 from CCSFS SLC-40 NET 20 Oct 14:45 UTC, altern. 21 to 26 Oct based on NOTMAR/NOTAMs. B1062.10 planned landing with roughly estimated fairing recovery approx. 656km downrange. Stage2 debris reentry in eastern Pacific. https://bit.ly/3VwLBw5

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https://twitter.com/jconcilus/status/1581659783987617794

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The @SpaceX launch support vessel Bob has exited Port Canaveral with droneship A Shortfall of Gravitas (ASOG) in tow. Destination: Landing Zone. Fair winds and following seas! 👍🏻🚀⛴

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NextSpaceFlight, updated October 12:
Launch October 20, 14:45 UTC
= 10:45 am EDT
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And now the NGA notices are out, for the 20th (the two Space Debris notices are the same notice, for two different Navigational Areas).  Meanwhile the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan still says the 18th.  It will get straightened out when the FAA TFRs are issued.

The FAA TFRs aren't out yet, but the 18th and 19th have been removed from the FAA ATC Current Operations Plan.

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STARLINK GROUP 4-36 CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL
PRIMARY:        10_20_22        1445Z-1949Z
BACKUP:         10_21_22        1424Z-1927Z

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L-3 launch weather forecast only 20% GO but improves to 60% next day
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The 45th Weather Squadron seems to be a little confused.  Issued 27 Sept 2022, valid 30 Sept 2022, next forecast 28 Sept 2022.

"This forecast is based on the 0500L National Hurricane Center official forecast for Major Hurricane Ian."

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L-3 launch weather forecast only 20% GO but improves to 60% next day

This is just a reupload of the pre-Ian weather report from Sep 27.

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Slight change to the primary launch time on October 20; source is Ben Cooper's Launch Photography Viewing Guide, updated October 17:
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The next SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket will launch more Starlink satellites from pad 40 on October 20 at 10:50 a.m. EDT or later.
=14:50 UTC
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