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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #120 on: 05/30/2008 11:28 pm »
Trident launches in the Pacific Ocean from the USS Nebraska took place on May 8.

Thanks.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #121 on: 06/01/2008 03:31 pm »
Trident launches in the Pacific Ocean from the USS Nebraska took place on May 8.

Thanks... can you give some indication of the source of this information?
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #122 on: 06/01/2008 10:46 pm »
Lockheed-Martin was the source of the launch date - as was the original press release that said "earlier this month (May)."

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #123 on: 06/02/2008 04:53 am »
Lockheed-Martin was the source of the launch date - as was the original press release that said "earlier this month (May)."

Thank, I feel happier at citing it in my logs given that detail.
Don't suppose you have details on the Trident tests in the Pacific in 2005 and 2006?
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #124 on: 06/04/2008 09:57 pm »
Sorry but no info on 2005 and 2006 launches.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #125 on: 06/04/2008 10:34 pm »
From the web site:

A Japanese newspaper with sources in the intelligence directorate in the Japanese Ministry of Defense, “Sankei” reported on the test launch of the “Tszyuylan-2” missile from the Yellow Sea
that took place on 29 May.

http://redbannernorthernfleet.blogspot.com/

The Russian TV Zvezda has a clip on the site purporting to be the launch of the new missile. Despite the Russian report noting that the launch took place from a submerged modified Golf SSB, the TV clip appears to depict a surface launch from a test barge.

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #126 on: 06/06/2008 06:15 pm »
From the web site:

A Japanese newspaper with sources in the intelligence directorate in the Japanese Ministry of Defense, “Sankei” reported on the test launch of the “Tszyuylan-2” missile from the Yellow Sea
 

This is normally referred to in English as  JuLian (JL-2), and translated as "Big Wave". It's the SLBM version of the DF-31, apparently.

On Jun 5 at 1813 UTC the Missile Defense Agency launched a target missile from the Mobile
Launch Platform (former USS Tripoli) off Kauai. Apogee was probably in the 100-200 km range;
the picture looks like a Castor 4 vehicle. It was intercepted just before impact
by two SM-2-IV launches which flew within the atmosphere.
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #127 on: 06/06/2008 11:38 pm »
Check out the video of the MDA intercept on 6/5

http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/videos/ftm14.wmv

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #128 on: 06/07/2008 08:53 pm »
DateRocketLaunch SiteTimeMission/Serial
11 JanuaryBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)05:3236.243 (USA)
17 JanuaryJericho (ISR)Palmachim (ISR)Missile (ISR)
18 JanuaryBB XII (CAN)Andøya (NOR)07:30SCIFER-2/40.021 (USA)
25 JanuaryShaheen-1 (PAK)Sonmiani (PAK)Missile (PAK)
31 JanuaryVS-30/Orion (BRA/USA)Andøya (NOR)19:14HotPay-2 (UK/NOR)
?? JanuarySM-2? (USA)WSMR (USA)AEGIS (USA)
04 FebruaryShahab-3 (IRN)Semnan (IRN)Kavoshgar-1 (IRN)
06 FebruaryS-310 (JPN)Uchinoura (JPN)09:14:40Ionosphere (JPN)
07 FebruaryVSB-30 (BRA)Esrange (SWE)11:30TEXUS-44 (GER/SWE)
21 FebruarySM-3 (USA)USS Lake Erie (USA)03:26ASAT (USA)
21 FebruaryVSB-30 (BRA)Esrange (SWE)06:15TEXUS-45 (GER/SWE)
26 FebruaryK-15 (IND)INS Kalinga (IND)07:28Missile (IND)
23 MarchAgni-1 (IND)Wheeler Island (IND)04:45Missile (IND)
28 MarchRH-200 (IND)Andøya (NOR)Mini-DUSTY-14 (NOR)
02 AprilMinuteman III (USA)VAFB (USA)08:01GT-196GM (USA)
14 AprilBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)16:5836.240 (USA)
15 AprilBlue Sparrow (ISR)F-15 (ISR)Test (ISR)
19 AprilShaheen-II (PAK)Sonmiani? (PAK)Missile (PAK)
21 AprilShaheen-II (PAK)Sonmiani? (PAK)Missile (PAK)
01 MayBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)05:3036.223 (USA)
06 MayMesquito (USA)WFF (USA)18:00-20:0012.065 (USA)
07 MayAgni-III (IND)Wheeler Island (IND)04:26Missile (IND)
07 MayMesquito (USA)WFF (USA)18:00-19:4512.066 (USA)
08 MayTrident II (USA)USS Nebraska, Pacific (USA)SLBM test (USA)
08 MayTrident II (USA)USS Nebraska, Pacific (USA)SLBM test (USA)
15 MayVSB-30 (BRA)Esrange (SWE)04:00MASER-11 (GER/SWE)
22 MayMinuteman III (USA)Vandenberg (USA)10:04GT-197GM
29 MayJu Lian-2 (PRC)Yellow Sea (PRC)SLBM test (PRC)
05 JuneCastor 4 (USA)MPL, Kauai (USA)18:13Target (USA)
 
DateRocketLaunch SiteTimeMission/Serial
24 JuneBB XI (CAN)WFF (USA)39.008 (USA)
June/JulyNike-Orion (USA)Andøya (NOR)ECOMA (NOR/GER)
June/JulyNike-Orion (USA)Andøya (NOR)ECOMA (NOR/GER)
June/JulyNike-Orion (USA)Andøya (NOR)ECOMA (NOR/GER)
01 JulyPerigrine (USA)WFF (USA)(USA)
09 JulyTerrier-Orion (USA)WFF (USA)10:00-13:00SubTec-II/41.075 (USA)
15 JulyALV (USA)WFF (USA)13:00-16:00 SOAREX-VI (USA)
18 JulyPolaris/STARS (USA)Kodiak (USA)FTX-03 Target
18 JulyGBI (THAAD?) (USA)Vandenberg (USA)FTX-03 ABM -??? - not an intercept test
JulyBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.226 (USA)
13 AugustMinuteman III (USA)Vandenberg (USA)GT-19XGM
AugustBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.213 (USA)
AugustBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.221 (USA)
OctoberBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.173 (USA)
OctoberBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.207 (USA)
OctoberNike-Orion (USA)Esrange (SWE)REXUS-4 (SWE)
October/NovemberNike-Orion (USA)Esrange (SWE)MAPHEUS (SWE)
NovemberTerrier-Orion (USA)WFF (USA)41.081 (USA)
01 DecemberPolaris/STARS (USA)Kodiak (USA)FTG-05 Target
01 DecemberGBI (THAAD?) (USA)Kodiak (USA)FTG-05 ABM
DecemberVS-30/Orion (BRA/USA)Svalbard (NOR)JCI-2 (NOR)
DecemberTerrier-Orion (USA)WFF (USA)41.082 (USA)
TBDBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.225 (USA)
TBDBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.235 (USA)
TBDBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.239 (USA)
TBDMinotaur II (USA)Vandenberg (USA)NFIRE-1B
TBDRH-200 (IND)Sriharikota (IND)(IND)
TBDRS-24 (RUS)Plesetsk? (RUS)Missile (RUS)
TBDRS-24 (RUS)Plesetsk? (RUS)Missile (RUS)
TBDRS-12M Topol (RUS)Plesetsk? (RUS)Missile (RUS)
TBDRS-18 UR-100N?? (RUS)Baikonur? (RUS)Missile (RUS)
TBDRS-20 R-36?? (RUS)Baikonur? (RUS)Missile (RUS)
TBDFalconLAUNCH (USA)WFF (USA)FL-VI (USA)
TBDBB IX (CAN)WSMR (USA)36.219 (USA)
Failures in italics
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #129 on: 06/12/2008 11:40 am »
05 JuneCastor 4 (USA)MPL, Kauai (USA)18:13Target (USA)

This launch was certainly not a Castor-4 based vehicle. The following video shows a liquid fueled rocket (possibly a Scud?) launching from the MPL (ex USS Tripoli) (see Video at 1:33):
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/aegis-bmd-ftm-14-stellar-scorpion/1987943442

here is also a still photo from the target launch:
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html#sbased.ANC

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #130 on: 06/12/2008 09:14 pm »
05 JuneCastor 4 (USA)MPL, Kauai (USA)18:13Target (USA)

This launch was certainly not a Castor-4 based vehicle. The following video shows a liquid fueled rocket (possibly a Scud?) launching from the MPL (ex USS Tripoli) (see Video at 1:33):
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/aegis-bmd-ftm-14-stellar-scorpion/1987943442

here is also a still photo from the target launch:
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html#sbased.ANC


Yes, that's fairly convincing. I think you're right and this is an actual Scud (Makeev R-11
or R-17, or third party clone thereof).
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #131 on: 06/12/2008 09:23 pm »
05 JuneCastor 4 (USA)MPL, Kauai (USA)18:13Target (USA)

This launch was certainly not a Castor-4 based vehicle. The following video shows a liquid fueled rocket (possibly a Scud?) launching from the MPL (ex USS Tripoli) (see Video at 1:33):
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/aegis-bmd-ftm-14-stellar-scorpion/1987943442

here is also a still photo from the target launch:
http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/html/nmdimg.html#sbased.ANC


So what other US Scud launches have there been? And what other vehicles have been
Aegis targets?

I have:

Scud from Aur Atoll (project Willow Dune): 1997 Feb 7, Mar 19
Scud from Point Mugu as target for Israeli Arrow - 2004 Jul 29
Scud B from Vandenberg, 2002 Nov 14 and 25
Scud from Mobile Launch Platform off Kauai: 2007 Jan 27, 2007 Apr 26, and this latest one.

Aegis targets:
Terrier Oriole - 2004 Jul 16, 2005 Mar 3, 2005 Nov 2
 the first of these had a Star 20 third stage.
Terrier Orion - 2006 Jun 23, Nov 16, 2007 Apr 26, 2007 Jun 15 (two), 2007 Nov 7 (two).
All of these were ARAV-A with non-separating nosecones, except for the 2006 Nov 16 launch which was an ARAV-B with a separating reentry vehicle.
Castor 4B  or Scud, to be discussed:
2005 Nov 18, 2006 Jun 22, 2007 Jun 23, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 Dec 17
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #132 on: 06/13/2008 04:42 am »
It would be interesting to find out who is "doing" these U.S. Scud launches.  A mini version of Project Paperclip, perhaps?

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #133 on: 06/13/2008 08:42 am »
The MDA article says "Scud-like", so it may not actually be a Scud. The video calls it a "threat-representative short range ballistic missile", do we know if this is a description or a designation?

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #134 on: 06/13/2008 11:18 am »
Castor 4B  or Scud, to be discussed:
2005 Nov 18, 2006 Jun 22, 2007 Jun 23, 2007 Nov 15, 2007 Dec 17
comments on these welcome.

At least these two are not Scuds:

2005 Nov 18 was an OSC built MRT-1 target (http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/release.asp?prid=534)

2006 Jun 22 was am OSC built MRT-2 target (http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/release.asp?prid=563)

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #135 on: 06/13/2008 12:37 pm »
There was an Agni-I launch at 04:45 GMT this morning on 4 May.
http://www.odishatoday.com/India_conducts_user_trial_of_nuclear_capable_missile.html

EDIT: This appears to be an old report that has been published by mistake, however I was not previously aware of the launch, which presumably occurred on Sunday 4 May.
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #136 on: 06/13/2008 08:48 pm »
There was an Agni-I launch at 04:45 GMT this morning on 4 May.
http://www.odishatoday.com/India_conducts_user_trial_of_nuclear_capable_missile.html

EDIT: This appears to be an old report that has been published by mistake, however I was not previously aware of the launch, which presumably occurred on Sunday 4 May.


I am pretty skeptical of this report - even as a rehash of a putative 4 May launch
(really? Just before the Agni 3 launch on 7 May?).  Nothing on the DRDO site; it would be nice to get a second indepedent source before including this in all of our launch logs. It could have been a story that was written in anticipation of the May 7 launch and was canned when the real details emerged.

 
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #137 on: 06/13/2008 08:54 pm »
Same launch time as the 3/23 Agni-1 launch.

e-mail received from globalsecurity.org has no info for an Agni flight on this date either - they also noted info in this article matches 3/23 launch info.
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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #138 on: 06/13/2008 08:58 pm »
From MDA for June 13

"a tracking exercise conducted by MDA and the U.S. Navy today off the coast of Kauai, Hawaii by the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) system aboard the USS Lake Erie (CG 70). The event follows the June 5, 2008 successful terminal interception of a threat-representative ballistic missile by the Aegis BMD system using a modified Standard Missile - 2 Block IV missile. During this exercise, two medium-range target missiles were launched near-simultaneously from the Pacific
Missile Range Facility (PMRF), Barking Sands, Hawaii. Shortly after lift-off, the crew of the USS Lake Erie, utilizing the Aegis BMD weapon system and onboard AN-SPY-1 radar, acquired and tracked the targets. Using the tactically certified Aegis BMD system, the crew developed fire control solutions and simulated the launch of two Standard Missile – 3 (SM-3) Block IA interceptors. The equipment performed according to design, and simulated intercepts occurred minutes later. The target missiles fell harmlessly into the Pacific
Ocean."

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Re: The suborbital thread!
« Reply #139 on: 06/23/2008 06:14 pm »
Hi!

This (http://www.lrn.cn/science/scienceNews/200806/t20080619_243796.htm) is about a  a suborbital chinese rocket launch that took place on June 11th from Jiuquan. Any help in translating this?

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