Quote from: Eer on 01/03/2015 01:59 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 01:41 amFascination is due in port shortly. Wonder if #BargeX / Falcon's Nest will still be there when she arrives?http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpGo Quest is underway at 0.1 knots with destination Blake Plateau at this time.No - nevermind - its track looks like it's just jostling around. Keep an eye on it, though ...Thought that Tugs reference has proven to be unreliable in the past as it gets turned off. But should shown when it leaves the dock.
Quote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 01:41 amFascination is due in port shortly. Wonder if #BargeX / Falcon's Nest will still be there when she arrives?http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpGo Quest is underway at 0.1 knots with destination Blake Plateau at this time.No - nevermind - its track looks like it's just jostling around. Keep an eye on it, though ...
Fascination is due in port shortly. Wonder if #BargeX / Falcon's Nest will still be there when she arrives?http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.php
... And now, back to the Fascination vid feed, tonight's main event.
Quote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:08 amQuote from: Eer on 01/03/2015 01:59 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 01:41 amFascination is due in port shortly. Wonder if #BargeX / Falcon's Nest will still be there when she arrives?http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpGo Quest is underway at 0.1 knots with destination Blake Plateau at this time.No - nevermind - its track looks like it's just jostling around. Keep an eye on it, though ...Thought that Tugs reference has proven to be unreliable in the past as it gets turned off. But should shown when it leaves the dock. Well, the tug's is turned off - Elsbeth III - http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/mmsi:367017460/shipid:434560/vessel:ELSBETH%20III , but Go Quest's is on.
Go Quest tracking:https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/zoom:10/shipid:450521/mmsi:367564890/centerx:-81.58316/centery:30.40951Fascination tracking:http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpSelect Tracker Mapping Option BFascination forward web cam:http://www.cruisin.me/cruisecams/ships/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.php
Quote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:19 amGo Quest tracking:https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/zoom:10/shipid:450521/mmsi:367564890/centerx:-81.58316/centery:30.40951Fascination tracking:http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpSelect Tracker Mapping Option BFascination forward web cam:http://www.cruisin.me/cruisecams/ships/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpElsbeth III (tug) tracking:http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-81.58298/centery:30.40965/zoom:8/mmsi:367017460/shipid:434560
Quote from: Robotbeat on 01/02/2015 11:39 pmQuote from: meekGee on 01/02/2015 09:30 pm.....What's left untested, therefore, is just the deviation of real-life grid fin behavior from the modeled one. This, in the grand scheme of things, is a pretty low risk....I agree they've retired the vast majority of the overall risks, but I would NOT say that "deviation of real-life grid fin behavior from the modeled one" is low-risk. I'm thinking of specific instances where rockets were lost because real-life fin behavior deviated from the modeled one. Usually this happens when the vehicle goes transonic, a regime which the grid fins have yet to see in flight.Just because they've done most of the hard parts doesn't mean their probably of success on this particular flight should thus be greater than 50%. It really does only take one thing to screw up your multi-million-dollar vehicle. So I think Musk is making an accurate assessment of the risk.For instance, see this exchange on Twitter:Look. John Carmack said "inversion" and now it's the internet risk de jour...
Quote from: meekGee on 01/02/2015 09:30 pm.....What's left untested, therefore, is just the deviation of real-life grid fin behavior from the modeled one. This, in the grand scheme of things, is a pretty low risk....I agree they've retired the vast majority of the overall risks, but I would NOT say that "deviation of real-life grid fin behavior from the modeled one" is low-risk. I'm thinking of specific instances where rockets were lost because real-life fin behavior deviated from the modeled one. Usually this happens when the vehicle goes transonic, a regime which the grid fins have yet to see in flight.Just because they've done most of the hard parts doesn't mean their probably of success on this particular flight should thus be greater than 50%. It really does only take one thing to screw up your multi-million-dollar vehicle. So I think Musk is making an accurate assessment of the risk.For instance, see this exchange on Twitter:
.....What's left untested, therefore, is just the deviation of real-life grid fin behavior from the modeled one. This, in the grand scheme of things, is a pretty low risk....
Quote from: Eer on 01/03/2015 02:23 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:19 amGo Quest tracking:https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/zoom:10/shipid:450521/mmsi:367564890/centerx:-81.58316/centery:30.40951Fascination tracking:http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpSelect Tracker Mapping Option BFascination forward web cam:http://www.cruisin.me/cruisecams/ships/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpElsbeth III (tug) tracking:http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-81.58298/centery:30.40965/zoom:8/mmsi:367017460/shipid:434560Thanks for that. Updated the list with your data Falcon's Nest layout.
Quote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:26 amQuote from: Eer on 01/03/2015 02:23 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:19 amGo Quest tracking:https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/zoom:10/shipid:450521/mmsi:367564890/centerx:-81.58316/centery:30.40951Fascination tracking:http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpSelect Tracker Mapping Option BFascination forward web cam:http://www.cruisin.me/cruisecams/ships/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpElsbeth III (tug) tracking:http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-81.58298/centery:30.40965/zoom:8/mmsi:367017460/shipid:434560Thanks for that. Updated the list with your data Falcon's Nest layout.Horses, when not being ridden, are kept in a stable. Falcons, when not being flown, are kept in a mews.
Quote from: deruch on 01/03/2015 02:43 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:26 amQuote from: Eer on 01/03/2015 02:23 amQuote from: PhilW on 01/03/2015 02:19 amGo Quest tracking:https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/zoom:10/shipid:450521/mmsi:367564890/centerx:-81.58316/centery:30.40951Fascination tracking:http://www.cruisin.me/ship_tracker/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpSelect Tracker Mapping Option BFascination forward web cam:http://www.cruisin.me/cruisecams/ships/carnival_cruise_lines/carnival_fascination.phpElsbeth III (tug) tracking:http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-81.58298/centery:30.40965/zoom:8/mmsi:367017460/shipid:434560Thanks for that. Updated the list with your data Falcon's Nest layout.Horses, when not being ridden, are kept in a stable. Falcons, when not being flown, are kept in a mews.So it's "Gauntlet" vs "Mews" ?!
What it needs, along these lines, is a falcon figurehead.
Quote from: meekGee on 01/03/2015 03:36 amWhat it needs, along these lines, is a falcon figurehead.Chewie? Han? Or Peregrine?
Because SpX engineers know about the Inversion issue, their grid fin flight control software should be able to compensate for it and still maintain the desired F9 attitude control capability.
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So it's "Gauntlet" vs "Mews" ?!